The new generation always thinks this shits new. Its just new to them.
Say what you want about Ayn Rand The fountain head and atlas shruged etc made very valid points about how popular news papers can make a saint a sinner and a monster a hero.
Talk about making a monster a hero. She was rapturous for a long time about a serial killer, because he wouldn't apologize. She considered selfishness the highest virtue. But this just illustrates the more recent fact that the MAGA crowd keeps howling that mainstream media can't be trusted--and they're right, but not for (mostly) the reasons they focus on.
Rand is the most misunderstood writer in history ..and not for any of the reasons most people think.
Her own tribal narcisism was apparent but I'm the idea of the artists visins as in the fountain head modern people indoctrinated into the hiarchy fallacy paradigm it does not make any send to them..The modern mind through generations is filled with notions of victimhood and obedience to authority in a hierarchy.
I knew I would get all these demonizing responses to the simple mention of her...
The same way the system turned everyone away from anything that hints how an idea and concept is valid no matter where it originates. This whole arrival is about that and yet here we have it demonstrated in its own living color.
And now I will be also vilified for pointing it out.
Your mistake is to think that because Rand championed nonconformity she must be a hero even though she also worshiped selfishness, even in the extreme of getting starry-eyed over a mass murderer--because he showed no remorse. So he was so wonderfully nonconformist! Her family fled the USSR, and she reacted against the advent of communism, a rather extreme embracing of the common good over individual interest, by embracing the opposite extreme. The notion that we are and should be separate individuals, each focused on Number One, is contrary to human nature--with the exception of sociopaths, we need each other, we benefit from setting things up so that everyone benefits, so we work cooperatively. Most of us feel good when we help others, when we are able to work i n harmony with others. Seeing oneself as in constant conflict with others, and seeking to triumph over everyone else, is sickness.
First off saying I mistake her ideas around none conformity as hero worship is exagerating my actual opinion.
Her talking about one minded artistic expression is then seen as selfishness is an inaccurate portrayal of the concept.. If you read the fountain head it was about that notion that true artists often have their work stolen by capitalists.
The murderer she used as example to demonstrate a concept about the mind of a murderer and sociopath was then taken as she advocated the murderer ...It fascinated me how so many people can not see the context distortions in the demonizing of others for opinions that might be used to counter their own naratives as though provoking examples .
This is how people are demonized to discredit them.
Twist their thoughts and words around to mean the opposite of what they try and convey. Most of the time this is taken from second hand opinion as fact.
This is how the system admins Caitlin is talking about do it
IF you are talking of Ayn Rand she was a Libertarian and was totally against any hand outs for poverty stricken people or anyone else for that matter. I understand she was getting Govt. help at the end of her life.
I notice the hate directed at her from all these comments and if I defend her it will be turned onto me...the essence of this entire thread will prove the point of social engineering to make Orwell two minute hate embraced even to good people .. So that where she may have gotten things right can be effectively dismissed and destroyed ..
Its uncanny and ironic how every time I test this it's proven true..
The fact most can't see this psycological prison they are in is fascinating to me. And no wonder.
It would take reams of paragraphs of explainiation of how this all works.. And how deep the onion layers go to get to the core of how deeply embeded social and cultural indoctrination is.
Rands antagonists and protagonists are flipped on their heads because no one seems to understand the real point of it. And it's a lot to help people process why,,, So they attack her politics and appatent Nazi-ish mindset . the systems mind controllers we are under are ten steps ahead at any given time.. And I will have to be made into Orwells Goldberg now for meantioning it.
Is she Jewish? Whatever. You must be young. It was all over the Internet during the Gulf War. Yes. The group of neo-cons who came out of the University of Chicago adored her. I think there's a documentary out there about her. These were the people who pushed the Gulf War and then all the surveillance measures that are still with us and getting worse. And who are extremely pro-Israel.
The new generation always thinks this shits new. Its just new to them.
Say what you want about Ayn Rand The fountain head and atlas shruged etc made very valid points about how popular news papers can make a saint a sinner and a monster a hero.
I read one of her books. Not only was it boring but horrible.
Talk about making a monster a hero. She was rapturous for a long time about a serial killer, because he wouldn't apologize. She considered selfishness the highest virtue. But this just illustrates the more recent fact that the MAGA crowd keeps howling that mainstream media can't be trusted--and they're right, but not for (mostly) the reasons they focus on.
Rand is the most misunderstood writer in history ..and not for any of the reasons most people think.
Her own tribal narcisism was apparent but I'm the idea of the artists visins as in the fountain head modern people indoctrinated into the hiarchy fallacy paradigm it does not make any send to them..The modern mind through generations is filled with notions of victimhood and obedience to authority in a hierarchy.
I knew I would get all these demonizing responses to the simple mention of her...
The same way the system turned everyone away from anything that hints how an idea and concept is valid no matter where it originates. This whole arrival is about that and yet here we have it demonstrated in its own living color.
And now I will be also vilified for pointing it out.
The matrix has most of you.
Hi Chaz
I have never read any of her books, but perhaps will now, for the simple reason of curiosity.
Prepared to be thoroughly bored and horrified.
😂
Your mistake is to think that because Rand championed nonconformity she must be a hero even though she also worshiped selfishness, even in the extreme of getting starry-eyed over a mass murderer--because he showed no remorse. So he was so wonderfully nonconformist! Her family fled the USSR, and she reacted against the advent of communism, a rather extreme embracing of the common good over individual interest, by embracing the opposite extreme. The notion that we are and should be separate individuals, each focused on Number One, is contrary to human nature--with the exception of sociopaths, we need each other, we benefit from setting things up so that everyone benefits, so we work cooperatively. Most of us feel good when we help others, when we are able to work i n harmony with others. Seeing oneself as in constant conflict with others, and seeking to triumph over everyone else, is sickness.
Lot to unpack here.
First off saying I mistake her ideas around none conformity as hero worship is exagerating my actual opinion.
Her talking about one minded artistic expression is then seen as selfishness is an inaccurate portrayal of the concept.. If you read the fountain head it was about that notion that true artists often have their work stolen by capitalists.
The murderer she used as example to demonstrate a concept about the mind of a murderer and sociopath was then taken as she advocated the murderer ...It fascinated me how so many people can not see the context distortions in the demonizing of others for opinions that might be used to counter their own naratives as though provoking examples .
This is how people are demonized to discredit them.
Twist their thoughts and words around to mean the opposite of what they try and convey. Most of the time this is taken from second hand opinion as fact.
This is how the system admins Caitlin is talking about do it
Well she died alone and in poverty and had no friends!
Is that how most Palistinians are dying? Just a thought..
Does poverty make people lesser?
IF you are talking of Ayn Rand she was a Libertarian and was totally against any hand outs for poverty stricken people or anyone else for that matter. I understand she was getting Govt. help at the end of her life.
and on social security.
Does that make somone lesser ? On social security..or do you use that to deride So none you dislike? Just a question? To jar a thought
I notice the hate directed at her from all these comments and if I defend her it will be turned onto me...the essence of this entire thread will prove the point of social engineering to make Orwell two minute hate embraced even to good people .. So that where she may have gotten things right can be effectively dismissed and destroyed ..
Its uncanny and ironic how every time I test this it's proven true..
The fact most can't see this psycological prison they are in is fascinating to me. And no wonder.
It would take reams of paragraphs of explainiation of how this all works.. And how deep the onion layers go to get to the core of how deeply embeded social and cultural indoctrination is.
Rands antagonists and protagonists are flipped on their heads because no one seems to understand the real point of it. And it's a lot to help people process why,,, So they attack her politics and appatent Nazi-ish mindset . the systems mind controllers we are under are ten steps ahead at any given time.. And I will have to be made into Orwells Goldberg now for meantioning it.
Proving Catilins point.
she was a piece of crap in so many ways.
She was the poster bimbo for the neo-cons. Don't bother reading her.
Is she Jewish? Whatever. You must be young. It was all over the Internet during the Gulf War. Yes. The group of neo-cons who came out of the University of Chicago adored her. I think there's a documentary out there about her. These were the people who pushed the Gulf War and then all the surveillance measures that are still with us and getting worse. And who are extremely pro-Israel.