Fran, I just came across your remark. I offer this with no malice or condescension: I think you are stuck in a thought warp. You seem to construe every comment as a slight against your perspective or a confirmation of it. The reason that I used the names Cruz and DeSantis, and didn’t use the name Obama is because the subject was demagoguery. I pasted this description from Wikipedia:
“Demagogue
A demagogue or rabble-rouser is a political leader in a democracy who gains popularity by arousing the common people against elites, especially through oratory that whips up the passions of crowds, appealing to emotion by scapegoating out-groups, exaggerating dangers to stoke fears, lying for emotional effect, or other rhetoric that tends to drown out reasoned deliberation and encourage fanatical popularity.”
This does not mean that I like Obama or Biden. I don’t. But their oratory is much too measured to fit the definition of demagoguery. In addition, I agree that it is the Democrats that are the loudest jingoists and war-mongerers currently. As I wrote previously, we agree on much more than what we don’t agree on. Money has corrupted our political institutions and media thoroughly. I think it is pointless to rank governmental officials according to their objectionability when they are all engaged in an objectionable system that dictates their behavior.
Do you not see how you keep repeating your defense of Trump and your resentment at how he was falsely accused? You seem to include these feelings, no matter the subject. As for DeSantis, he isn’t hot-headed, but his rhetoric is standard demagoguery. The liberals, the “woke” enemies of good family folk, etc. He’s all about defending the people against the mighty enemies. Textbook charlatan.
God am I up early, so many things to do. I don't know how to answer your question as to why I bring up Trump, maybe because no one has been held accountable. I was so angry I switched parties and I'm now an independent. I wouldn't vote for a democrat ever. Maybe I keep repeating myself because what the democrats did cries out for justice. I also believe had he gotten elected again we would not be on the precipice of a nuclear war, and I truly believe that. Even Norm Chomsky, who really disliked Trump wrote an article stating he was the only statesman who could stop the possibility of a nuclear war. Well, I did read the article, but you have to admit Counterpunch ain't what it use to be. I didn't like the article because it was no more then a hit piece on DeSantis from someone who hates Trump and thinks he has a win when he claims they are one and the same."Fahrenheit 451 is a perfect sobriquet for a copycat hate-spewing Trumpist politician determined to create a model autocratic state as a mere governor before he gets a chance to do the same with the country as president of the United States.'' Please, not to brag, but I am too sophisticated to buy that crap. He goes on a rant comparing DeSantis to Trump and he thinks he's proved his case?
He's even quoting someone who did a hit piece on DeSantis from Vanity Fair, and the claim is, DeSantes isn't woke. He doesn't like Soros, well I don't like him either. He doesn't like Anthony Fauci, forget about Covid, many in the homosexual community have it in for that SOB in scaring people silly with his position that AIDS could be easily spread, and crated a nightmare for people with AIDS. Illegal immigrants, no, especially in the midst of a Covid pandemic with all manner of restrictions in place. I'm for legalized immigration. Maybe if Clinton who was Obama's secretary of State didn't support a military coup in Honduras, and remove Zelaya then hand the country over to the elites fewer would have the need to come here. Well, her actions do reflect our whole history in South America. Holy shit DeSantis is not a believer in critical race theory, and woke gender ideology. Good grief!!!!!!!! See he's taken up the mantra compare anyone to Trump, and not being woke and you got a hit piece that will be taken seriously by people especially if you throw in Trump. Counterpunch is why we have Substack. Even Democracy Now is being critically attacked by Blumenthal and Mate. and for good reason.
Well, I became an independent, even though they never win, or I don't vote. I'm sick of people telling me it's my responsibility to vote, and just vote for the lesser of the two evils.
Fran, I just came across your remark. I offer this with no malice or condescension: I think you are stuck in a thought warp. You seem to construe every comment as a slight against your perspective or a confirmation of it. The reason that I used the names Cruz and DeSantis, and didn’t use the name Obama is because the subject was demagoguery. I pasted this description from Wikipedia:
“Demagogue
A demagogue or rabble-rouser is a political leader in a democracy who gains popularity by arousing the common people against elites, especially through oratory that whips up the passions of crowds, appealing to emotion by scapegoating out-groups, exaggerating dangers to stoke fears, lying for emotional effect, or other rhetoric that tends to drown out reasoned deliberation and encourage fanatical popularity.”
This does not mean that I like Obama or Biden. I don’t. But their oratory is much too measured to fit the definition of demagoguery. In addition, I agree that it is the Democrats that are the loudest jingoists and war-mongerers currently. As I wrote previously, we agree on much more than what we don’t agree on. Money has corrupted our political institutions and media thoroughly. I think it is pointless to rank governmental officials according to their objectionability when they are all engaged in an objectionable system that dictates their behavior.
Do you not see how you keep repeating your defense of Trump and your resentment at how he was falsely accused? You seem to include these feelings, no matter the subject. As for DeSantis, he isn’t hot-headed, but his rhetoric is standard demagoguery. The liberals, the “woke” enemies of good family folk, etc. He’s all about defending the people against the mighty enemies. Textbook charlatan.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/02/21/demagogue-rising/
God am I up early, so many things to do. I don't know how to answer your question as to why I bring up Trump, maybe because no one has been held accountable. I was so angry I switched parties and I'm now an independent. I wouldn't vote for a democrat ever. Maybe I keep repeating myself because what the democrats did cries out for justice. I also believe had he gotten elected again we would not be on the precipice of a nuclear war, and I truly believe that. Even Norm Chomsky, who really disliked Trump wrote an article stating he was the only statesman who could stop the possibility of a nuclear war. Well, I did read the article, but you have to admit Counterpunch ain't what it use to be. I didn't like the article because it was no more then a hit piece on DeSantis from someone who hates Trump and thinks he has a win when he claims they are one and the same."Fahrenheit 451 is a perfect sobriquet for a copycat hate-spewing Trumpist politician determined to create a model autocratic state as a mere governor before he gets a chance to do the same with the country as president of the United States.'' Please, not to brag, but I am too sophisticated to buy that crap. He goes on a rant comparing DeSantis to Trump and he thinks he's proved his case?
He's even quoting someone who did a hit piece on DeSantis from Vanity Fair, and the claim is, DeSantes isn't woke. He doesn't like Soros, well I don't like him either. He doesn't like Anthony Fauci, forget about Covid, many in the homosexual community have it in for that SOB in scaring people silly with his position that AIDS could be easily spread, and crated a nightmare for people with AIDS. Illegal immigrants, no, especially in the midst of a Covid pandemic with all manner of restrictions in place. I'm for legalized immigration. Maybe if Clinton who was Obama's secretary of State didn't support a military coup in Honduras, and remove Zelaya then hand the country over to the elites fewer would have the need to come here. Well, her actions do reflect our whole history in South America. Holy shit DeSantis is not a believer in critical race theory, and woke gender ideology. Good grief!!!!!!!! See he's taken up the mantra compare anyone to Trump, and not being woke and you got a hit piece that will be taken seriously by people especially if you throw in Trump. Counterpunch is why we have Substack. Even Democracy Now is being critically attacked by Blumenthal and Mate. and for good reason.
There are no reasons " to change parties " - all amer. parties are under a devil control . American "presidents "are not elected , but selected.
Well, I became an independent, even though they never win, or I don't vote. I'm sick of people telling me it's my responsibility to vote, and just vote for the lesser of the two evils.