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Michael's avatar

What country WAS great? Maybe another question, what country doesn’t have dirty hands in its history? Not making excuses, just making a point about humans. One would think we could evolve past these behaviors but alas, we still have modern day colonialism

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Ron Stockton's avatar

You are likely right on this. Nationalism does this to people, otherism does this to people. The colonialist powers were all the same and equally as evil. Most of them have now given up on overtly preaching they are exceptional (although it's coming back with the rise of the right) but the USA, (Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and progressives) have never ceased preaching they are exceptional, it's in the DNA and, unfortunately, no other country has ever had the power (militarily and economically) the USA has in order to implement its agenda or end human life on the planet.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

>>"...conservatives and progressives..."

I think you meant conservatives and liberals. True progressives are on the left (in both social & economic spheres - and I wouldn't consider Bernie Sanders or AOC progressives, even though the media does). IMHO, to be a true progressive, one needs to be an anti-capitalist.

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Ron Stockton's avatar

Fair point.

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Sam's avatar

Including here in America. It spies on us, lies to us, sends our families to kill people in other countries so rich people can still the resources. It lets cops beat the crap out of us and kill over 1,300 of us year with no repercussions because they are working for the rich people who run the country. Obama let the banks steal 10 million homes through fraud and then gave them money to buy up the stolen homes.

Wars abroad always come home to roost. Always.

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Bryan's avatar

Empires are inherently evil. Ours is no different

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

Your point suggests emphasizing people, rather than nations. That is, being a humanist instead of a nationalist.

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Michael's avatar

We can have both. Think about pride in sports teams. We love our team and want to win but we don’t want to literally kill our opponents and their families. We can compete in the world in a humane way.

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