Socialism has been defined to me as "the ownership and control of the means of production by the workers, or by the community generally." In other words, self-management. There is plenty of that sort of thing around, in the form of personal ownership, parterships, and cooperatives. However, it seems that only a minority of people are interested (at present) in doing the work. It will be difficult for socialism to succeed if only a small minority want to actually do it.
Small mom and pop businesses have been dwindling in the US for decades. What we're seeing is massive billion dollar corporations that straddle the market place and have considerable economic monopolies (such as cable companies, or massive food market chains, or meat producers.) These same massive billion dollar corporations, who never stop pursuing less regulations in the market place, also spend massive amounts of money in Washington DC to deregulate the market even further - with constant huge billion dollar mergers approved by lawmakers - such as the recent Krogers/Albertson merge.
I think many people would like to live in a more equitable society, that some forms of socialism appear to be able to achieve - if we look at other more socialist countries in the world - some of which adapt a hybrid of socialism/capitalism. But it is difficult to move toward change when so much power concentrated in a relatively few - and they are doing all they can to hold on to power, at the expense of the welfare of everyone else in a society.
Look at how the VERY libertarian Whole Foods, ate up food, dairy & CSA coops in every big city, as a small portion of hippys morphed into cocaine & wine swilling, BMW driving yuppies telling us to move to Russia, Cuba & China (since mama & poppa didn't offer us junior partnership so we too could fully participate in simultaneously killing "Capitalism" & 'Murika by inebriate grandiosity, NPD/BPD, substance abuse & sneeringly brain-washed Chicago School Idiocracy.
Except that the massive corporations are begging for more regulation to save face, keep their necks out of the nooses, and be closer to the REAL power source, the government. It's why Zuckerberg is willing to cave to any and all demands made by the White House.
Yep! If Shell, ETGT, EM or Williams EVER seem to have sought regulatory or oversight from ANY government agency, it was before I got into it & likely, a scam to CRUSH wild-catters or foreign competition (they've ALL been multinational conglomerates, since way before API 5L & 1104!)
How does that relate in ANY way to what I said? I see you're taking the "snide comeback" approach to convince other sheep as all the anti-intellectual Left now constantly does. They think "clapbacks" are politically compelling 😂. Did you go to the AOC school of Debate?? I know this is becuase you don't actually have anything to say, so you try to have the last word and/or bury what I said in the comments. Typical pathetic commie tactics..."No one can ever see the other side. They might be convinced that it makes more sense."
Socialism has been defined to me as "the ownership and control of the means of production by the workers, or by the community generally." In other words, self-management. There is plenty of that sort of thing around, in the form of personal ownership, parterships, and cooperatives. However, it seems that only a minority of people are interested (at present) in doing the work. It will be difficult for socialism to succeed if only a small minority want to actually do it.
Small mom and pop businesses have been dwindling in the US for decades. What we're seeing is massive billion dollar corporations that straddle the market place and have considerable economic monopolies (such as cable companies, or massive food market chains, or meat producers.) These same massive billion dollar corporations, who never stop pursuing less regulations in the market place, also spend massive amounts of money in Washington DC to deregulate the market even further - with constant huge billion dollar mergers approved by lawmakers - such as the recent Krogers/Albertson merge.
I think many people would like to live in a more equitable society, that some forms of socialism appear to be able to achieve - if we look at other more socialist countries in the world - some of which adapt a hybrid of socialism/capitalism. But it is difficult to move toward change when so much power concentrated in a relatively few - and they are doing all they can to hold on to power, at the expense of the welfare of everyone else in a society.
If we all (or mostly) _wanted_ to have socialism as I defined it above, we could have it tomorrow.
Look at how the VERY libertarian Whole Foods, ate up food, dairy & CSA coops in every big city, as a small portion of hippys morphed into cocaine & wine swilling, BMW driving yuppies telling us to move to Russia, Cuba & China (since mama & poppa didn't offer us junior partnership so we too could fully participate in simultaneously killing "Capitalism" & 'Murika by inebriate grandiosity, NPD/BPD, substance abuse & sneeringly brain-washed Chicago School Idiocracy.
Except that the massive corporations are begging for more regulation to save face, keep their necks out of the nooses, and be closer to the REAL power source, the government. It's why Zuckerberg is willing to cave to any and all demands made by the White House.
More Libertarian fantasy talk. Ayn Rand was a nut.
Yep! If Shell, ETGT, EM or Williams EVER seem to have sought regulatory or oversight from ANY government agency, it was before I got into it & likely, a scam to CRUSH wild-catters or foreign competition (they've ALL been multinational conglomerates, since way before API 5L & 1104!)
How does that relate in ANY way to what I said? I see you're taking the "snide comeback" approach to convince other sheep as all the anti-intellectual Left now constantly does. They think "clapbacks" are politically compelling 😂. Did you go to the AOC school of Debate?? I know this is becuase you don't actually have anything to say, so you try to have the last word and/or bury what I said in the comments. Typical pathetic commie tactics..."No one can ever see the other side. They might be convinced that it makes more sense."
Here's some data for you. Empirical data:
https://news.yahoo.com/irs-data-prove-trump-tax-130007569.html
"commie tactics" lol
I've suddenly time traveled back to the 1950s.
WOLVERINES! Git sum, Git SUM!