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Chang Chokaski's avatar

The US needs to sanction ITSELF for being the BIGGEST perpetrators of Genocides and destruction on planet Earth. ALL the other countries should also SANCTION the US. (Yes, I know that this is unfortunately not possible/practical in our reality)

Does ANYBODY still listen to ANY of the bullshit (and virtue signaling) that the US Empire does anymore?

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David Baird's avatar

It's not just the copious quantities of industrial strength bullshit, Chang, but the fact that the perpetrators can spout it with straight, serious, sober faces. Oscar-winning performances of outrageous, outright lying and denial. Most egregiously, these same deadened consciences will swear by their god of whatever brand, insouciantly ignoring the tenets by which they otherwise claim to live. I really wish there were a hell to which they will deservedly be consigned.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

You’re absolutely right! There is so much good in the world (so many ordinary, good, decent, compassionate, kind humans all over the world). How is it that a VERY SMALL MINORITY of THE WORST HUMANS have been able to override all the good of humanity? Is there some fault in our human evolution/psychology that has enabled an extremely small segment of the MOST EVIL humans to hijack the rest of us?

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Richard Parker's avatar

Easy to answer.

Those who manipulate and kill for their own benefit rise to the top. It's always been like that. Ruthless humans always climb up the ladder by cutting away the legs of those above, and stomping on the heads of those below.

Not a single person has risen to lead anything substantial by being nice and talking thev truth.

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dale ruff's avatar

Gandhi?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Thank you Dale Ruff! People need to be reminded (and keep in memory) that there are many instances in history where GOOD HAS DEFEATED evil.

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dale ruff's avatar

I am so happy to hear that from you, Chang! We need both hope and courage.

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dale ruff's avatar

It took several centuries to end legal segregation but Dr. King, with a non-violent strategy of massive protests and civil disobedience, ended it suddenly when a massive crowd of 400,000 heard his prophetic words...and within 3 months, the Civil Rights Act was passed. When enough of us unite, we win.

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110th's avatar

We must kill the farmers. These are from the farmers mouths; "We were the first to put Liberty, Equality and Fraternity into the mouths of the masses, which set up a new aristocracy. The qualification of this aristocracy is WEALTH, which is dependent on us." Mayer Amschel Rothschild

"Candidates for public office should be servile and obedient to our commands so that they may readily be used." Mayer Amschel Rothschild

“The overwhelming majority of American Rabbis regard Zionism not only as fully consistent with Judaism but as a logical expression and implementation of it.”— Document released on November 20, 1942 signed by 818 American Rabbi

"The US shouldn't give high clearances to Jews, because when asked to help, we're willing to do anything for the love of our country, Israel." -- Spy Jonathan Pollard during interrogation by the FBI. Make note that Pollard was born in the US and his spying put America in serious nuclear risk back in the 1980's.

"If my son's did not WANT wars there would be NONE". Gutle Schnaper Rothschild wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild on her deathbed 1849

"Wars should be directed so that the nations engaged on both sides should be further in our debt." Mayer Amschel Rothschild

"Since the earliest times it is as the exploiter that the Jew has been known amongst his fellow men of all races and creeds. Moreover, he has persistently shown himself ungrateful... The Jews have always formed a rebellious element in every state." -- NESTA WEBSTER, In World Revolution, The Plot against Civilization, page163

"The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take away from them the power to create money and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money." -- Josiah Stamp, Former Director of the Bank of England

“It is our duty to force all mankind to accept the seven Noahide laws, and if not ~ they will be killed.” ~ Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg

“We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America

(The Jew, December, 1925, Zinobit)

“Nowhere in the Talmud is the Star of David an endorsement of the Jews. However, the Bible does reference this to be the Star of Remphan belonging to Moloch (Satan).Most Jews don’t like to admit it but our god is Lucifer and we are his chosen people. ~ Harold Wallace Rosenthal (1947 – 1976). A senior aide to Senator Jacob K. Javits.

When asked how they proposed doing this, Rosenthal said:"At first, by controlling the banking system we were able to control corporation capital. Through this, we acquired total monopoly of the movie industry, the radio networks and the newly developing television media. The printing industry, newspapers, periodicals and technical journals had already fallen into our hands. The richest plum was later to come when we took over the publication of all school materials. Through these vehicles we could mold public opinion to suit our own purposes. The people are only stupid pigs that grunt and squeal the chants we give them, whether they be truth or lies."

"The aide said that guys like me were ‘in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who ‘believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ‘That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. ‘We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality— judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'" Ron Suskind interviewing Karl Rove

“We can not state that all Jews are Bolsheviks, but without Jews, there would never have been Bolshevism. For a Jew, nothing is more insulting than the truth. The blood-maddened Jewish terrorists had murdered sixty-six million in Russia from 1918 to 1957.” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

"Remember my children, that all the earth must belong to us Jews, and that the gentiles, being mere excrement's of animals, must possess nothing." ~ Mayer Amschel Rothschild on his deathbed, 1812

We deserve to be dealt with as hated herd animals BECAUSE WE BEHAVE AS SUCH! IF WE DECIDE TO GROW UP WE WILL KILL ALL WHO COMPRISE "THE JEW" BECAUSE WE WILL NO LONGER DENY WHO HUMANITIES ENEMIES ARE AND WHY!

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dale ruff's avatar

This is in effect hate speech, a very cherry-picked (Marx is not quoted nor Chomsky) selection designed to create a sense of hatred towards Jews. This comment, in a sane country that knows that such hate speech inspired the Holocaust, would be outlawed, not to destroy free speech but to defend it. Here is an expert from Wikipedia about the author last named: "Nesta Helen Webster (née Bevan, 24 August 1876 – 16 May 1960) was an English author who revived conspiracy theories about the Illuminati.[1][2][3] She claimed that the secret society's members were occultists, plotting communist world domination, through a Jewish cabal, the Masons and Jesuits.[2][4] She blamed the group for events including the French Revolution, 1848 Revolution, the First World War, and the Bolshevik Revolution.[5] Her writing influenced later conspiracy theories and ideologies, including American anti-communism (particularly the John Birch Society) and the militia movement.[6]

In 1920, Webster became a contributor to The Jewish Peril, a series of articles in the London Morning Post centred on the forged document The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." I highly recommend that hate speech such as this be kicked off this platform. Our struggle to end the genocide in Gaza has nothing to do with such "Jew hatred" but is a just battle to end the Zionist project of oppressing the Palestinians. IF we allow actual Jew haters to join in with us, our cause is lost.

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110th's avatar

(Marx is not quoted nor Chomsky) You want a few quotes by Marx you enemy? Why would I quote a known gatekeeper and enemy like chomsky?

I hope we meet during the upcoming hunt. So would my quoting Marx have any influence on your mission to deceive here? HERE IS YOUR MARX: “What is the basis of Judaism? A practical passion and greed for profit. To what can we reduce his (the Jew’s) religious worship? To extortion. What is his real God? Cash!”— Karl Marx, founder of Communism, quoted in the British Guardian, July-August, 1924.

“The world…I will smash to pieces with my enduring curses…Embracing me, the world will dumbly pass away, And then sink down to utter nothingness, perished, with no existence — that would be really living.”— Karl Marx, “Oulanem,” p. 68

“Money is the universal, self-constituted value of all things. Hence it has robbed the whole world... of its proper value. Money is the alienated essence of man's labour and life, and this alien essence dominates him as he worships it.”―Karl Marx, On the Jewish Question

"What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general." Karl Marx

"Capitalist production, therefore, develops technology, and the combining together of various processes into a social whole, only by sapping the original sources of wealth, the soil and the laborer." Karl Marx

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110th's avatar

"Hate speech" is a jewish con to keep humanity from knowing t.h.e.m. (T=the H=hebrews E=enslaving M=mankind). Just as the cons of "antisemitism" and "hollowcost denier" are tricks; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kWAqZxJVE

YOU attempt to use the same on me? You label yourself an enemy of all humanity and one of "the jew"!

Here is what you're hot to keep us from THAT IS SOON TO BIRTH! "We jews continue to be amazed with the ease by which Christian Americans have fallen into our hands. Woe be unto us if they (gentiles) see the futility of it, LAY DOWN THE PEN AND TAKE UP THE SWORD. We will never be deposed by words, only force." Harold Wallace Rosenthal. Assistant to jewish senator jacob javits who spearheaded the open immigration policy in 1965.

Those claims are TRUE as true as you're one of t.h.e.m.!

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Francis/Clare's avatar

Very shocking statements. I wonder to what extent they are true.

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dale ruff's avatar

Well, to the same extent that Hitler blaming the Jews was true.

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110th's avatar

Stop wondering. That is what "the jew" wants you stuck in. RESEARCH!

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dale ruff's avatar

It hasn't always been that way for 300,000 yrs homo sapiens live in egalitarian, sharing and non-violent communities but that changed with the Ag Revolution when the new institutions based on surpluses and the concept of property arose including masters and slaves, inequality, social classes, top own rule, religion to justify, war to enforce and steal. Our basic humanity from that long period of evolution is still altruistic, but undermined by institutions that arose to create what we call civilization. How this transition from egalitarian to hierarchal took place is not yet totally understood, but it cannot exist without the concept of property, which did not exist for our long evolution.

Today, scientists tell us that while trust in inherited, distrust must be learned. The military creates killers by stripping individuals of their autonomy and teaching them to hate. They have to suppress the inherent disapproval of violence and then use dehumanization of the "enemy" to create young men eager to kill total strangers who have never done anything wrong to them. What takes place in transforming young men taught "not to hit" into killers is a process that mirrors the transition of homo sapien communities from sharing societies into aggressive, acquisitive warriors.

My guess is that to reclaim our evolutionary heritage (still somewhat preserved in the family with its communal "From each according to his abilities to each according to her needs) , we must reshape the meaning of property and reclaim the commons which belong to all, which can be done in a thousand ways, from taxation (redistribution ) to workers coops and labor unions, from making industries public utilities, and above all, by replacing the current plutocracy with democracy. It won't happen without great effort, disruption, violent resistance, and massive propaganda against the efforts to end wars, exploitation, and environmental degradation and create what we were promised in the US founding document, "equality and consent of the governed. " that radical idea started a revolution and and it will take a revolution to create it.

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Richard Parker's avatar

You'll have to provide some evidence of that broad statement. Humans have been at each other's throats since forever. Genetic selection, the strongest go and take.

Sure, in small communities it was necessary to cooperate in order to survive, another trait that is inherited through genetics.

But there were always the ingroups and the outgroups.

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David Avenell's avatar

You ask C.C., "How is it that a VERY SMALL MINORITY of THE WORST HUMANS have been able to override all the good of humanity?"I think part of the answer to that is that the small minority managed to engineer the system and the laws, to ensure that psychopaths rose to the top of the heap.

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David Baird's avatar

Good question. The complete lack of moral strength and leadership indicates some essence of the aptly named hijackers is missing or twisted. Greed, money and lust for power make a poisonous combo. Things are truly grim, but I know there's a way to go before hitting the bottom of the pit.

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David Avenell's avatar

The bottom might not be that far. I await with baited breath, Jan 23 when the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists readjust the Doomsday Clock.

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AJF's avatar

David, maybe because we hang out here instead of really organizing...just wondering.

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David Avenell's avatar

Actually AJF, I call myself a dissident and have since the Vietnam war, when I joined protests in Sydney and climate protests in later years.

While "hanging out here" I've encountered many good new ideas and strategies for taking actions - 'course, they need to be adapted to local laws and regulations.

Talking to, and listening to other people is never a total waste of time.

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AJF's avatar

David, my apologies. I agree, and posted that comment out of frustration. I live in a state surrounded by highly propagandized people who consider themselves quite intelligent. I too have been "aware" since the 70's but it seems those that were in that camp back then are no longer thinking critically.

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JennyStokes's avatar

American people ........same as Canadians have NEVER had a war on their land.

Indifference/not understanding Geography/lousy education.

Keep shopping USA!

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andy tonti's avatar

Money, and the power and influence it creates!!

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JennyStokes's avatar

GREED

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dale ruff's avatar

Such a great question: how the fuck did a lying rapist/ fascist like Trump get elected in a country of people most of whom are not lying rapists or fascists. I think the answer is that money is God, and God has spoken, through billionaires like Musk who coughed up 250 million to elect Trump (1/1600th of his wealth and the rightwing AIPAC which spent more to defeat progressives with rightwing stooges than any group in history, money money money.....which is why Marx envisioned communism as abolishing money (ie circulated wealth, which can be accumulated and thus concentrated) and "private property (not personal possessions but wealth used to make wealth like rental property, stocks and bonds, etc). When we abolish money, we may use labor vouchers which are earned and expire on use (not accumulation), and we will reclaim the older social contract based on mutual debt and mutual aid, which is calculated without money but on the basis of social relations (you help your friend move; he in turn helps you dig up your garden). It will take first an intellectual revolution to understand the concepts that form the foundation of the current system and then the imagination to reform a world based on mutuality, instead of the cold cash calculation that rules us today.

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Peter Sawchuk's avatar

Can anyone name one war the U.S. has not been involved in either directly or indirectly since 1944?

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KHGUAN's avatar

More and More people are waking up from the haze, so that’s comforting news!

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110th's avatar

The U.S. is "the jew"s hammer, wallet and Right of Force. we have the duty to end all of t.h.e.m. (T=the H=hebrews E=enslaving M=mankind) and their lying lackeys in government, media, education, finance and medicine with the greatest prejudice, in the streets, openly.

“The role of the President of the United States is to support the decisions that are made by the people of Israel.”— Ann Lewis, speaking for Hillary Clinton, at the meeting for Jewish Leadership sponsored by the United Jewish Communities on March 18, 2008 (Jewess Ann Lewis is sister to Congressman Barney Frank).

“The U.S. has no longer a government of goyim [Gentiles], but an administration in which the Jews are full partners in the decision making at all levels. Perhaps the aspects of the Jewish religious law connected with the term ‘government of goyim’ should be re-examined, since it is an outdated term in the U.S.“— The major Israeli newspaper, Maariv, “The Jews Who Run Clinton’s Court” on September 2, 1994.

“Politics in America has become a Jewish profession, just like arts and the law…”— Ira Forman, executive director of the National Jewish Democratic Council, quoted in The Jewish Daily Forward on March 20, 2008

"Our right lies in force. The word RIGHT is an abstract thought and proves nothing. I find a new right...to attack by the right of the strong, to reconstruct all existing institutions, and to become the sovereign lord of all those who left to us the Rights to their powers by laying them down to us in their liberalism" Mayer Amschel Rothschild

"If my son's did not WANT wars there would be NONE". Gutle Schnaper Rothschild wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild on her deathbed 1849

"Wars should be directed so that the nations engaged on both sides should be further in our debt." Mayer Amschel Rothschild

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dale ruff's avatar

Hate speech like destroys free speech, as we learned from the Nazi era. Repeating the lies of Hitler should not be tolerated. Free speech has to be protected from the hate speech which, if tolerated, destroys it. That is the lesson of history. Get this poison out of here....decent people will not post on a platform that displays open Nazi like hate speech.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

This is a private space and Caitlin has been more than pro-active in banning those whom she wishes, and has found. I am sure she doesn't have time to track down all those comments that are filled with hatred and spew filth, such as the one you commented about.

However, when it comes to free speech, and the First Amendment, which governs what government can and cannot do, please take note, there there is no "hate speech" exception to the First Amendment.

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dale ruff's avatar

Sanctions hurt the people and often strengthen the governing elites. US sanctions against Japan led to Pearl Harbor; US sanctions on Venezuela have led to millions fleeing as the economy of ordinary people (not the oligarchs who control 70% of the economy) suffers; sanctions against Russia drove them into the arms of the Chinese; sanctions against Cuba (where I am traveling next week) for 60 years have impoverished the people and left the government intact. Sanctions lead to lost jobs, lost income, and a way for the governing class to blame outsiders and bolster their support. " a review of all U.S. sanctions since 1970 shows that targeted countries altered their behavior in a way that the U.S. hoped they would just 13 percent of the time"...87% failure while 100 of the time inflicting harm on the people: "Financial sanctions are designed to inflict pain on the people of a targeted country, with the hope that they will get fed up and advocate for political change." Sanctions are like brakes, designed to bring to a halt....but if your brakes only worked 13% of the time, you would replace them. And so I advocate for regime change....no that's musical chairs. I advocates for system replacement: replace plutocracy with democracy, hierarchy with equality, obedience with freedom.

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Cornelia HEMMELDER's avatar

Yes, other Western leaders 🤢

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