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Susan T's avatar

I just want the cycle of genocide and violence ot somehow come to an end. I don't find it easy to think good thoughts about people like Zionists, but I think I have to keep trying to see them as people deserving of some kind of empathy. It seems that each war, genocide, occupation just creates more hate that then creates more conflict. I do think that that the way it will stop is one person at a time. I will try to be one of those people.

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gypsy33's avatar

@ Susan T How you can feel one iota of empathy for the psychopathic murderers is beyond my comprehension.

Empathy for snipers that shoot children in the head?

Empathy for drone operators that obliterate entire families?

Empathy for insane “soldiers” who rape Palestinian doctors to death?

WHAT THE FUCKING HELL ARE YOU THINKING?

They deserve nothing better than tall trees and short ropes!

Pollyanna….yeahhhhh, that pretty much describes you. Stop deluding yourself that these vampires are worthy of “empathy”… just, oh my fucking god.

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Susan T's avatar

I was thinking about the people who support the ideology of Zionism but who are not actually murdering children and all the other things you list. You are right that the murderers do not deserve empathy, especially not for their acts, but the people who have not go that far yet do deserve some kind of empathy, maybe. I think. I am saying we need to try to understand them, why they do what they do so that we can figure out how to stop it. When I think about all the fallout from all the wars, how more war mongers have been created, I think it has to stop somehow. It isn't going to stop just by getting angry and promoting more war. I think anger is a good thing, but ongoing hate is not. For myself, I try to pull back from the hate that I do feel and try more to figure out how we got to this. I think anger is a good emotion because it spurs me on to try to figure things out.

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gypsy33's avatar

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Ah, Susan:

Anyone who supports the ideology of Zio-fucking-ism FAVORS the genocide of the Palestinians, whether they are actively engaged in performing it or not!

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Susan T's avatar

It is a complicated thing to try to figure out how to stop this from continuing. I don't have the answers. I know that I want it to stop. I have observed that hate and revenge don't usually stop the violence of power mongers. Self defense is a good thing. Not like Israel's genocide, but not allowing yourself to be attacked if you can do that. What is happening is Gaza is doubly horrible because people are not really allowing themselves to be attacked, but the entire world is assisting Israel to commit genocide.

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Susan T's avatar

Also, I live in a very Jewish neighbourhood and I know some are Zionists, others I don't know. I do not want to walk down the street and hate everyone that I see. I have to try to find some humanity in them. It is often very difficult. I saw a car flying an Israeli flag today. I felt like smashing that car. So far I just feel like doing those things. If it morphs into actually doing those things, then I think I will have lost.

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gypsy33's avatar

Well, Susan, at the genocide’s inception, an I Stand With Israel sign sprouted around the corner from me. I pulled the jeep over, got out, and stomp that motherfucker to death.

I lost NUTHING, in fact in was very satisfying 😁

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I find your attitude commendable. Wish I had more leanings in that direction. My emotions about those poor people too easily clamp down on me.

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Susan T's avatar

My emotions clamp down on me too. I have not succeeded in getting the rage out of me. But I have to keep trying. I do believe that the world will change one small step at a time. I have learned in my life that by understanding those who hurt me and others, or at least trying to, I feel less hate and can then move forward a little bit, anyway. I am a little afraid of sounding Pollyanna-ish. I don't really think I am though.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Again, I applaud the effort. I tend to cope by disappearing into alternate modes of being that at least for brief periods disconnect me from it. Perhaps I'm the one whose attitude is suspect in reference to effecting change. It's a difficult knife-edge with respect to striking a balance.

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gypsy33's avatar

Ain’t one fucking thing wrong with your attitude, Vin.

Susan T needs psychiatric care; she’s delusional as hell.

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