To me the intersection comes at the biosphere as a whole complex adaptive system of systems. Its complexity and what that really means in all its permutations is so beyond my puny mind that it is spiritual in a deific sense for me. I have no problem that it is a material entity. Atoms are simply packets of confined forces and energies that we clumsily represent as material in the sense that our macroscopically tuned perception understands -- although one must credit Bohr's cleverness for that initial atomic model. And then, the secrets of the quantum world and what that level of flexibility might presage for biosystems. Cloud beings were pitched to my toddler and child self and Michelangelo's old man with the itchy finger on the Sistine roof sticks in my head like a spike, but no more patience with that stuff.
To me the intersection comes at the biosphere as a whole complex adaptive system of systems. Its complexity and what that really means in all its permutations is so beyond my puny mind that it is spiritual in a deific sense for me. I have no problem that it is a material entity. Atoms are simply packets of confined forces and energies that we clumsily represent as material in the sense that our macroscopically tuned perception understands -- although one must credit Bohr's cleverness for that initial atomic model. And then, the secrets of the quantum world and what that level of flexibility might presage for biosystems. Cloud beings were pitched to my toddler and child self and Michelangelo's old man with the itchy finger on the Sistine roof sticks in my head like a spike, but no more patience with that stuff.