When I am asleep I don't know I exist, when not dreaming...what constitutes 'consciousness' here? Unborn fetus's respond to all kinds of stimuli. Some prospective parents sing, talk etc. to the unborn...and there is research to suggest this is advantageous to the development...Science harmonises with the Bible in telling us when human life begins (at conception) but it is a human debate as to who decides and when to decide that that life should be respected.
Your stance is that you know the right answer and refuse to consider other perspectives. How is that helpful?
The Thunderbolts Project (you posted elsewhere) doesn't answer when the "consciousness" manifests itself within the brain ("radio") of the fetus.
Sure, if people want to think about this kind of thing, fine. It might help them decide where they stand on abortion.
I'm in no way denying psychic phenomena. I have an opinion on it, but that in no way can be applied to the question of when a fetus, or for that matter a human being, becomes conscious.
IOW, your point is totally orthogonal to the question.
Posting youTubes without explanation is pretty much a waste of your time. Out of courtesy I went to those videos and found them to be disconnected to the content of Caitlin's article. What was I suppose to "get" out of it.
It is my understanding that in some societies, the answer is "no" up to 3 years old.
Just pushing the boundary of the discussion not trying to suggest it as a solution.
When I am asleep I don't know I exist, when not dreaming...what constitutes 'consciousness' here? Unborn fetus's respond to all kinds of stimuli. Some prospective parents sing, talk etc. to the unborn...and there is research to suggest this is advantageous to the development...Science harmonises with the Bible in telling us when human life begins (at conception) but it is a human debate as to who decides and when to decide that that life should be respected.
Doesn’t make those societies objectively correct.
Who ever said it did?
Your stance is that you know the right answer and refuse to consider other perspectives. How is that helpful?
The Thunderbolts Project (you posted elsewhere) doesn't answer when the "consciousness" manifests itself within the brain ("radio") of the fetus.
Sure, if people want to think about this kind of thing, fine. It might help them decide where they stand on abortion.
I'm in no way denying psychic phenomena. I have an opinion on it, but that in no way can be applied to the question of when a fetus, or for that matter a human being, becomes conscious.
IOW, your point is totally orthogonal to the question.
I was just showing you something, I wasn’t trying to talk about the fetus.
Then you should have said so.
Posting youTubes without explanation is pretty much a waste of your time. Out of courtesy I went to those videos and found them to be disconnected to the content of Caitlin's article. What was I suppose to "get" out of it.
So now we've both wasted time to no benefit.
I was trying to introduce you to the electric universe.