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russian_bot's avatar

"... the average person is completely brain dead ..." - various considerations are always offered to try to explain it, often with implications that somehow it can be fixed.

My explanation is radical and all-encompassing - the humans are fundamentally flawed just as suggested by religions. They cannot "evolve". And the fact has been so acknowledged by the rulers that they no longer pretend to care about hiding the fact they openly manipulate the populace. They don't need to. With the fall of religions there is no longer any internal moral mechanism for the people to keep themselves in check and they've been turned loose, "freed".

With disastrous results as can be observed by anyone who's not blind.

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kristofarian's avatar

"... [peeps] cannot 'evolve'."

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they made a pretty Decent try

anti-Masking anti-Vaxxing

Darwin was waiting in the

wings. the Herd Wants to

be thinned apparently

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sadly they want Us

thinned out Considerably

as well . . . hmmm. how to Evolve

.

reverse

psychology?

triple projetions?

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Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

As I said, in my opinion we are "evolved" enough to manage our destiny as a unified group. But we chose and continue to choose the wrong system, the one which enables the exploitive to exploit us. Then, because the system's propaganda is all about bootstraps, and the "dignity" of not taking handouts - which in fact is our own money, we get involved in situations, like marriage and children, mortgages and bank accounts, which dispose us to being "in denial": we are reluctant to take chances, and want to believe things might - will get better- when that is very doubtful. So we are trapped by our humanity - in an inhuman system.

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Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

No, usually it's the religion in concert with the powerful, that "flaws" them - as in Bush's interpretation of and use of The Divine. Every species is born with the capability of sustaining itself, and we are no different. We are ruled by a small number of assholes, and can't extricate ourselves. That is the entire problem.

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russian_bot's avatar

Bush or any other politician are not an authority on religions. Neither is the church. Priests et al are people too and subject to all the flaws just like the rest of us. Well, I guess catholics consider their Pope to be someone divine but that's their problem. To the others he's just a man. No more no less.

So the perversions and malicious applications of religion are misdeeds of the people once again.

And to your "We are ruled by a small number of assholes, and can't extricate ourselves." I can only ask - why? My explanation is in the original reply. Yours must be different. Eager to hear it. Attempted for the millionth time throughout the centuries, I'd guess.

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Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

Are priests and vicars "authorities on religion", Yes, by definition: they made it up. Alll religions have them, always did. But they are not authorities on God , either as a personage, or as the concept of the "highest good." That is something for human beings themselves to decide, democratically.

Why are we ruled by a small number of assholes? Because they originally took over by force: they are not held back by conscience. Once a power/wealth structure is established, it runs pretty much on its own. There is no new money, just recycled and enhanced old money. People have always known they were being screwed: history is full of evidence. Seventy thousand slaves rebelled under Spartacus, knowing the consequences if caught. Citizens have challenged their governments at the risk of horrible torture and death.

People do know better and object to injustice constantly, unless they are on the winning end.

of course propaganda is a big factor- especially concerning war, and the men who are gang-pressed to fight. It has to do with false, flattering concepts of "honour" and "manliness". It has to do with "divide and rule."

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russian_bot's avatar

"That is something for human beings themselves to decide, democratically." - that's what's been happening through the ages and it's called sects. Of all kinds, "values", you name it. "Democratic" too.

And so here we are - evolved per your opinion - yet completely hapless and sheep-like. Some evolution!

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Doris Wrench Eisler's avatar

We don't have democracy, and never did. Sect leaders are hardly democratic. Where did you get that idea ? Calling something "democratic". doesn't make it so. It's magic.

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