"She a self promoting ambitious bourgeoisie grifter"
I seriously doubt she understands very well the implications of what she's doing. She certainly thinks she does, but IMHO she won't know for a while.
May I ask, what is your current age (roughly)? Were you raised (ages birth-to-teens) working-class? If so, was it skilled or unskilled WC? (Do you know the difference, that is, the *cultural* difference?) In general, was it stable or unstable environment? Were there street gangs as a young child? Were you abandoned for lengthy periods so your parents could work? Were the schools authoritarian disciplinarians? Were you ever experimental meat in an Ivy League teaching hospital? Did you ever have screaming matches with "therapists", who couldn't drop their own "juiced in it" [hard-driving-UMC-]parents-are-the-only-genuine-problem monomania long enough to hear what perceptive things you're saying about other things related to you, the world, and your place in it? etc. etc. etc. No, this is not unusual -- this is WC *NORMAL*. So, I hope you're now getting my drift about the possible, maybe probable, brain-state of AOC, having spent her early childhood the Bronx (a hellhole I don't even want to imagine, having seen enough triggers just on the TeeVee), but then coming face-to-face with the magical world of the UC/UMC.
In other words, moving to Westchester does not instantly transform the psyche of WC-raised to an UMC. Thinking it does is a deep UC/UMC conceit.
Wiki says her dad was an architect. That's not unskilled working class. She left the Bronx at 5 years old so had no real exposure to or experience with gangs, violence, et al. Puerto Rican families are known to be tight knit, is I doubt she had instability at home. You have a myth in your mind. Look at her academic focus.
Fair enough. I'll concede re most of these things (except as in my parallel comment point below). I don't think it's sufficient to refute my core point against Caitlin that "[AOC] knows exactly what she's doing". That's a stretch, to put it mildly.
I have not seen evidence of conscious contempt for the truth. How do you know what's going on in her head? Have you never bought into a line of thinking and rejected it later after realizing more fully its meaning and implications? I think she's contained in a bubble, and she's always being channeled into powerful rationalization to sway her.
She's the Democrats' designated limited-hangout rebel, but thinks she's following her conscience. Like Obama (and, arguably, even Bill Clinton), she was plucked from an obscure environment and molded, although those two presidents are far smarter, and have known for a long time "exactly what they're doing".
On some level she does (she has sufficient though not superior intelligence), but I believe that (within her current hurricane and bubble) she's certainly repressing and/or rationalizing it. It may not bubble to full consciousness for a while, which was in my original point. Therefore, I cannot yet hold her accountable the way I can, say, Bernie Sanders for *his* transgressions.
"She left the Bronx at 5 years old so had no real exposure to or experience with gangs, violence, et al."
How do you know that? You don't think a 3 or 4 or 5-year-old can experience trauma (at some level of) indirect exposure *worse* than, say, the 19-year-old wielding the weapons involved?
"She a self promoting ambitious bourgeoisie grifter"
I seriously doubt she understands very well the implications of what she's doing. She certainly thinks she does, but IMHO she won't know for a while.
May I ask, what is your current age (roughly)? Were you raised (ages birth-to-teens) working-class? If so, was it skilled or unskilled WC? (Do you know the difference, that is, the *cultural* difference?) In general, was it stable or unstable environment? Were there street gangs as a young child? Were you abandoned for lengthy periods so your parents could work? Were the schools authoritarian disciplinarians? Were you ever experimental meat in an Ivy League teaching hospital? Did you ever have screaming matches with "therapists", who couldn't drop their own "juiced in it" [hard-driving-UMC-]parents-are-the-only-genuine-problem monomania long enough to hear what perceptive things you're saying about other things related to you, the world, and your place in it? etc. etc. etc. No, this is not unusual -- this is WC *NORMAL*. So, I hope you're now getting my drift about the possible, maybe probable, brain-state of AOC, having spent her early childhood the Bronx (a hellhole I don't even want to imagine, having seen enough triggers just on the TeeVee), but then coming face-to-face with the magical world of the UC/UMC.
In other words, moving to Westchester does not instantly transform the psyche of WC-raised to an UMC. Thinking it does is a deep UC/UMC conceit.
Wiki says her dad was an architect. That's not unskilled working class. She left the Bronx at 5 years old so had no real exposure to or experience with gangs, violence, et al. Puerto Rican families are known to be tight knit, is I doubt she had instability at home. You have a myth in your mind. Look at her academic focus.
Fair enough. I'll concede re most of these things (except as in my parallel comment point below). I don't think it's sufficient to refute my core point against Caitlin that "[AOC] knows exactly what she's doing". That's a stretch, to put it mildly.
She's corrupt. She kissed Pelosi's ass. This is not the first example of her corruption. She knows exactly where the lines are.
I have not seen evidence of conscious contempt for the truth. How do you know what's going on in her head? Have you never bought into a line of thinking and rejected it later after realizing more fully its meaning and implications? I think she's contained in a bubble, and she's always being channeled into powerful rationalization to sway her.
She's the Democrats' designated limited-hangout rebel, but thinks she's following her conscience. Like Obama (and, arguably, even Bill Clinton), she was plucked from an obscure environment and molded, although those two presidents are far smarter, and have known for a long time "exactly what they're doing".
On some level she does (she has sufficient though not superior intelligence), but I believe that (within her current hurricane and bubble) she's certainly repressing and/or rationalizing it. It may not bubble to full consciousness for a while, which was in my original point. Therefore, I cannot yet hold her accountable the way I can, say, Bernie Sanders for *his* transgressions.
"She left the Bronx at 5 years old so had no real exposure to or experience with gangs, violence, et al."
How do you know that? You don't think a 3 or 4 or 5-year-old can experience trauma (at some level of) indirect exposure *worse* than, say, the 19-year-old wielding the weapons involved?
Her self promotional WIKI bio provided that. There are areas of the Bronx that are very nice. Have you ever been there? You have no clue, my friend.