I'm not advocating her approach to this conversation at all. I'm saying she is an interesting character, will likely have many demons to face in the future, and in her old age (like Robert McNamara) attempt to come public with them. I do not believe she is a hard-boiled, two-faced sociopath as Caitlin seems to imply. Unless sociopaths and 5-D political chess have become sophisticated beyond my imagination.
Because the thing "I'm really over" is the obsessive re-invention of words. One of these cases is the word "interesting", especially as used among the U.S. upper and upper-middle classes and their imitators for a number of decades now. (Today, in the decline and fall of the West, their discourse regularly functions as a modern court of Versailles, that is, as a slice of hybrid warfare.)
To the larger portion of people, that is, the normal ones (as in the original meaning of the word "normal", i.e. "reflecting the norm"), "interesting" isn't a veiled accusation -- it retains its original meaning, that is, making a statement about the *observer's* emotional reaction (i.e. "I'm entertained to explore this person/thing/whatever further, whatever I find"), and does not involve making insinuations about the target person's character.
Oh, I know exactly how a working-class person moves into an upper-middle class environment during ones teens and twenties. Mastering by 30 years old at a deep level the sinister subterfuge of a hardened spook is not at all a norm. One can put on the cloak, but not understand sufficiently what's actually going on until decades later. Whoever is making this argument (apparently, Caitlin?) has to make a better case.
For example, at their core, I'm convinced AOC and Bernie are two very different people, no matter how they harmonize on stage. Puppet and puppetmaster.
Will there be a Palestinian left standing in five, or two, or 0.5 decades?
I'm not advocating her approach to this conversation at all. I'm saying she is an interesting character, will likely have many demons to face in the future, and in her old age (like Robert McNamara) attempt to come public with them. I do not believe she is a hard-boiled, two-faced sociopath as Caitlin seems to imply. Unless sociopaths and 5-D political chess have become sophisticated beyond my imagination.
Like someone said, I’m really over these ‘interesting’ characters and these ‘interesting’ times.. let’s drop the euphemism..
It's not a euphemism.
Because the thing "I'm really over" is the obsessive re-invention of words. One of these cases is the word "interesting", especially as used among the U.S. upper and upper-middle classes and their imitators for a number of decades now. (Today, in the decline and fall of the West, their discourse regularly functions as a modern court of Versailles, that is, as a slice of hybrid warfare.)
To the larger portion of people, that is, the normal ones (as in the original meaning of the word "normal", i.e. "reflecting the norm"), "interesting" isn't a veiled accusation -- it retains its original meaning, that is, making a statement about the *observer's* emotional reaction (i.e. "I'm entertained to explore this person/thing/whatever further, whatever I find"), and does not involve making insinuations about the target person's character.
I guess you never met a striving Bronx born Puerto Rican girl who moves to northern Westchester county and sees how the world works.
Oh, I know exactly how a working-class person moves into an upper-middle class environment during ones teens and twenties. Mastering by 30 years old at a deep level the sinister subterfuge of a hardened spook is not at all a norm. One can put on the cloak, but not understand sufficiently what's actually going on until decades later. Whoever is making this argument (apparently, Caitlin?) has to make a better case.
For example, at their core, I'm convinced AOC and Bernie are two very different people, no matter how they harmonize on stage. Puppet and puppetmaster.
BTW, her opponent(s) (this election year) on this question is/are much worse, as is entirely to be expected.
"Semi-like!"