RFK, like Ramaswamy, supports Israel, and the Israeli lobby will support him. That's American politics and war. It's also, irrevocably, hand-in-hand with supporting a prison called Palestine.
Everybody here knows how bad and fascist and cruel the Israeli’s are, and everyone pretty much wants to stop them and stop AIPAC and the Congress from arming them to teeth and defending them at the UN but you can’t do all that by yelling at them or calling them names or applying the famous purity tests that so many lefties favor. You have to talk to them, negotiate with them, persuade them. If you’re in office and known as a Jew hater—because that’s what they’d call Bobby if he opposed Israel and AIPAC—he wouldn’t be able to get any of the Congress to back him in trying to cut off foreign aid to Israel. I imagine the Palestinian’s would much prefer to have an impure but effective President on their side than a pure-as-the-driven wimp.
If an American can't get elected in America without support for and from the Israeli lobby, then its only participation in a fake democracy, and thus all candidacies are fake too.
I think we could have that if people wrote in. RFK’s name regardless of who the $NC puts on the ticket. I might at least cause a constitutional crisis which could be very good for us.
Agreed, but RFK Jr quite weirdly injected "Zionism" into the conversation. You could tell that Jimmy Dore, who is never at a loss for words, didn't even know what to say when Bobby went on a sideways Zionist rant. Personally, I am looking forward to how RFK Jr's campaign evolves, and maybe the pro-Zionist stuff fades into the White Noise background,,,
Jimmy wasn’t at a loss for words on the topic; he couldn’t believe his ears. And as any adult should, he acknowledged he didn’t know enough about the topic to counter RFK and asked him to debate Max Blumenthal, who has written books on Zionism. Ofcourse RFK agreed then but reneged in the days following. Unfortunately (an otherwise smart individual) RFK has been captured/hoodwinked by the Zionist lobby.
Agreed. I think Jimmy was kind of shocked by how tone-deaf RFK Jr was to the room he was in. If nothing else, RFK Jr's probably cornered the market on the Evangelical vote. If the folks on his campaign team have any brains, they'll secure the rights to Dusty Springfield's "Son of a Preacher Man" as campaign theme song. Jimmy did a nice job exposing Dr Cornel West, who I like in a way, but also see as an Ivy League intellectual fraudster.
Boy has Brother DCW been an utter disappointment. Another establishment shill in disguise. Or perhaps his blind spots are far too large for his own good. He should go back to his day job before he irreversibly destroys his cred.
"The most significant thing about all US presidents is not their differences, it’s their similarities.”
We are all very used to and accepting of the ability of Caitlin to summarise, accurately.
"The bureaucracy is very strong, and it is that bureaucracy that rules the world”.
It is also the bureaucracy that is corrupt, influenced (controlled) every day by politicians who, to get where they are today have sold their country short, accepting the daily dictates from the upper echelon of the bureaucracy, known as the Neocons, the fifth columnists. They made Iraq a war, voted for billions of dollars to be given to an apartheid state called Israel together with military support in all the Middle East attempted overthrows. Everyone knows this. It is fact.
These Neocons control America. Just one more fact that no one can deny. Until they are expelled as anti-American, foreign fifth columnists, nothing will change in the USA.
If you old enough and can cast your mind back to the days of good old Joe McCarthy and his un-American purges against Communism in the 1950’s, it is almost laughable how harmless his targets were then when compared to the well-funded, corrupt anti-American Israeli-controlled politicians in both houses.
But while the greatest majority of decent, loyal American are influenced through media propaganda but continue to accept any politician who has even the slightest connection to any Jewish political organisation, nothing with change in the “exceptional” USA.
I'm sorry, but what is the relevance of Zionism in THIS conversation (I honestly have no clue of the connection)
It tells you whose side he is on. If someone is complicit in occupation, ethnic cleansing, apartheid.. It doesn't bode well for other policies.
Baloney
RFK, like Ramaswamy, supports Israel, and the Israeli lobby will support him. That's American politics and war. It's also, irrevocably, hand-in-hand with supporting a prison called Palestine.
Everybody here knows how bad and fascist and cruel the Israeli’s are, and everyone pretty much wants to stop them and stop AIPAC and the Congress from arming them to teeth and defending them at the UN but you can’t do all that by yelling at them or calling them names or applying the famous purity tests that so many lefties favor. You have to talk to them, negotiate with them, persuade them. If you’re in office and known as a Jew hater—because that’s what they’d call Bobby if he opposed Israel and AIPAC—he wouldn’t be able to get any of the Congress to back him in trying to cut off foreign aid to Israel. I imagine the Palestinian’s would much prefer to have an impure but effective President on their side than a pure-as-the-driven wimp.
If an American can't get elected in America without support for and from the Israeli lobby, then its only participation in a fake democracy, and thus all candidacies are fake too.
Who cares if it’s all fake. It takes a fake to catch a fake. We love fakes. It’s still better than a doddering old war monger.
As I said in my other comment, I hope for chaos.
I think we could have that if people wrote in. RFK’s name regardless of who the $NC puts on the ticket. I might at least cause a constitutional crisis which could be very good for us.
weak argument
What Tony succinctly said. (it would have taken me several paragraphs).
Agreed, but RFK Jr quite weirdly injected "Zionism" into the conversation. You could tell that Jimmy Dore, who is never at a loss for words, didn't even know what to say when Bobby went on a sideways Zionist rant. Personally, I am looking forward to how RFK Jr's campaign evolves, and maybe the pro-Zionist stuff fades into the White Noise background,,,
Jimmy wasn’t at a loss for words on the topic; he couldn’t believe his ears. And as any adult should, he acknowledged he didn’t know enough about the topic to counter RFK and asked him to debate Max Blumenthal, who has written books on Zionism. Ofcourse RFK agreed then but reneged in the days following. Unfortunately (an otherwise smart individual) RFK has been captured/hoodwinked by the Zionist lobby.
Agreed. I think Jimmy was kind of shocked by how tone-deaf RFK Jr was to the room he was in. If nothing else, RFK Jr's probably cornered the market on the Evangelical vote. If the folks on his campaign team have any brains, they'll secure the rights to Dusty Springfield's "Son of a Preacher Man" as campaign theme song. Jimmy did a nice job exposing Dr Cornel West, who I like in a way, but also see as an Ivy League intellectual fraudster.
Boy has Brother DCW been an utter disappointment. Another establishment shill in disguise. Or perhaps his blind spots are far too large for his own good. He should go back to his day job before he irreversibly destroys his cred.
Really, Mark?
"The most significant thing about all US presidents is not their differences, it’s their similarities.”
We are all very used to and accepting of the ability of Caitlin to summarise, accurately.
"The bureaucracy is very strong, and it is that bureaucracy that rules the world”.
It is also the bureaucracy that is corrupt, influenced (controlled) every day by politicians who, to get where they are today have sold their country short, accepting the daily dictates from the upper echelon of the bureaucracy, known as the Neocons, the fifth columnists. They made Iraq a war, voted for billions of dollars to be given to an apartheid state called Israel together with military support in all the Middle East attempted overthrows. Everyone knows this. It is fact.
These Neocons control America. Just one more fact that no one can deny. Until they are expelled as anti-American, foreign fifth columnists, nothing will change in the USA.
If you old enough and can cast your mind back to the days of good old Joe McCarthy and his un-American purges against Communism in the 1950’s, it is almost laughable how harmless his targets were then when compared to the well-funded, corrupt anti-American Israeli-controlled politicians in both houses.
But while the greatest majority of decent, loyal American are influenced through media propaganda but continue to accept any politician who has even the slightest connection to any Jewish political organisation, nothing with change in the “exceptional” USA.