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jamenta's avatar

Interesting. Caitlin brings up how we are being psyop'd into two separate groups by the Elites, and you immediately bring up the anti-vaxxer debate - which is doing exactly what Caitlin writes in her essay. One of the most divisive issues in recent memory. Whether what you write is true or not, I find myself agreeing with Caitlin: the Psyop is very real.

And in case anyone might wonder, here is the other side of the coin of the Anti-vaxxer debate. An essay published today by Jessica Wildfire on the Bird Flu:

"Yes, They've Left You to Die: https://jessicawildfire.substack.com/p/yes-theyve-left-you-to-die?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=492821&post_id=124760523&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

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William Paul's avatar

I appreciate your point, jamenta. But six millionextra people dead per year due to the vax actually a result of the psy-op. Because the purpose of the vax was primarily to continue turning us all into sheep.

Listen to "Scapegoating and the Road to Political Persecution."

If you want to think clearly, this website is a life saver.

https://academyofideas.com/2022/07/scapeogating-and-the-road-to-political-persecution/

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jamenta's avatar

I don't think it's as black and white as you make it out to be William Paul. And I'm not here to use the precious bandwidth of Caitlin's comments section to get into a fruitless anti-vaxxer debate - when my original comment was meant to point out that you are doing exactly what Caitlin articulated in her essay.

I do realize some people still have quite the Axe to grind on this Anti-Vaxxer debate, given how they treated their good friends when they dared to disagree with them on the issue. But I also believe there are others here trying to push a Psyop agenda, which is deliberately meant to divide and keep us divided (whether intentional or not).

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William Paul's avatar

I can unite with anyone who is pro-vax, although I think they are misguided, and I also think Pfizer executives should go to prison for life, for willful negligence.

The psy-op I see is the one that turns us into docile, obedient sheep. What is the pay-op you see? I will read respectfully.

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jamenta's avatar

I'd rather talk about the risk of nuclear war right now, and how billionaires have corrupted our government. I also think one can believe these latest vaccines are flawed, but still believe in the efficacy of vaccines (polio, measles, etc) that have been used historically. That it need not be one or the other. With all respect. Cheers.

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ChazLB's avatar

Here's where we will part ways...the vac was a scam from start to finish and it's done more damage than any good

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jamenta's avatar

Interesting how Caitlin's essay wasn't at all about who is right and who is wrong with vaccines (or transgenders). She was writing pretty much how these issues (such as the abortion issue) is deliberately used to divide Americans - while the oligarchs continue to warmonger and exploit Americans economically ruthlessly (which effects all Americans, whatever sex they are, or whatever health care they get).

I'm sorry you feel everyone must agree with you on every issue, and it's your way or the highway. Grow up Chaz.

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ChazLB's avatar

Yet you are the one who started mentioning the anti vex debate and I chime in on a comment you made and you a stick me into a "band of thugs" category you can manage and demonize to dismiss.. Fascinating..

Im not even sure you are aware of your own projection or behaviour patterns.

For somone who claimed to see psyops you can't see how you have been victimized by cultural and social conditioning into those patterned of duplicity you resort to as tactics.

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ChazLB's avatar

"Grow up"

Your own words belie you..no wonder you miss the plot.

You might want to reevaluate your core sens of integrity and deal with your intellectual cowardice to know why that is so important to decern truth from fiction

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ChazLB's avatar

The very fact you use tactics in linguistic ways like terming it "anti-vax" like a smear,, to dismiss and challenge that might topple your view..scratch to close to the real truth for you and you jump into every single one of those underhand tactics

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ChazLB's avatar

Wow that's how you see it? Grow up?

That's also a tactic you ilk use..grow into what? Your school of thought if I challange your assertions you think forcing you? Or do you take that stance as a tactic?

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jamenta's avatar

Hey Chaz - grow up!

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ChazLB's avatar

Grow up?

Into what...your culture tribe social order?

The most accomplished test taker is only as good or brainwashed as the test designer.

You use the grow up tactic as a trick.. You use it as a way to dismiss aanyone that won't agree with you then play the victim...

You don't seem to have the emotional maturity yourself to take stock of the fact you resort to those psychological methods and tricks.

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jamenta's avatar

I'm not someone who is so neurotic about a particular controversial issue i.e. the anti-vaxxer issue, that I will immediately write a person off as soon as (he/she/it) dares to criticize my position. That would be you Chaz. Believe it or not , there are intelligent people who disagree with your Anti-Vaxxer position (such as the Jessica Wildfire article I linked). So yes, grow up. Realize that not everyone will agree with you on every issue - which requires more maturity than what you apparently have at the moment.

This will be my last comment - because I have more important things to do in my life than to argue with someone with an axe to grind, and who is neurotically fixated on being right.

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ChazLB's avatar

If you really think those vaccines remotely worked as described (lied about) you really lost the plot on who is being psyopsed..

Its funny how the most seemingly aware can be so fooled when it's a cause they have some sort of an emotional investments in.

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jamenta's avatar

Like I said I don't live in a black and white world. And I'm not going to spend time arguing vaccines with someone who has it all figured out (like many of the anti-vaxxers do already). So fuck off.

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ChazLB's avatar

Yeah that's a typical response I expected..run away...

Then use the "grow up tag line" then act like anyone who challenges you is benieth your time and effort...you are a classic duplicitous character and I bet you don't even know it.

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jamenta's avatar

That's about all I'm going to engage on this issue here, because this was exactly the point of Caitlin's article. Interesting how immediately after she wrote the article - we get an anti-vaxxer post and then a transgender post - both attacking Caitlin in her comments section. So yeah fuck-off Chaz, you and your organized band of thugs here.

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ChazLB's avatar

Organized band of thugs?

See you can't even help using that tactic..organized? So you insert that notion into your accusations when there's zero evidence of it..you conveniently make an assumptions knee jerked into existence in order to degrade and dissmiss my point of view as in "grow up".

You are littered with duplicitous behaviour patterns here that you quickly resorted to..

All we agreed upon but this one issue sent you down that road so fast your head spun around like Linda Blair and you started to use all those learned underhanded tactics.

Fascinating,,,,no wonder you can't see how you also have been psyopsed..

Maybe you can point out my misspelling as to how I'm grown-up you imagine me to be.

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ChazLB's avatar

You sound like AOC claim that words are violence against her

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jamenta's avatar

You sound like a neurotic bully.

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