I am going to put this part of the reply separately because the rest got rather long.
You said: I think that by promoting the idea that it is the Jewish culture that is creating the genocide in Palestine rather than capitalistic greed and colonialist thinking, you are being anti semitic.
Ah, I think you misunderstood me. I have often said I reject the claim that Israel represents Judaism.
What I was saying was that when Jews say Israel represents them or do not counter that claim, they are telling the world that the evil that is Israel and the atrocities it commits represent values and practices by Jews and which are contained in Judaism.
If Jews do not categorically reject Israel as the Jewish State then they are admitting that the horrors Israel inflicts represent them and their religion. That is simple logic.
And trying to blame the horror that is Zionist Israel on capitalism and colonialism lets all those who have supported Israel's atrocities off the hook. Of course holding Jews accountable for the Jewish State will be called anti-semitic, but it is not and to say it is just re-affirms the message to the world that Israel and its evil represents and reflects Judaism and Jews.
First, I didn't say the first sentence properly. I was trying to convey the idea that your analysis only considered the Jewishness of the people living in Israel and not other aspects of who they are. Other than that, I have nothing to add to your comments. Or subtract. We clearly do not see the world the same way, but I thank you for letting me know your thoughts.
And no, I was also not clear enough. I am not solely considering the Jewishness of people living in what is called Israel.
I agree with you that there are many factors at work, of course.
I am trying to make the point that Zionist Israel was created in the name of Judaism and Jews, and selectively allows Jews to live there and claims to represent Judaism and every Jew on earth and, because of that, I believe Jews and their religion must take responsibility because they have not forcefully rejected those claims.
Judaism like all religions does not have an overseeing management, but it does have organising bodies for the different groups within Judaism, as other religions do. There is no reason why all of those groups cannot come together to create one voice to counter Israel's claims.
Those groups must join together to create a united Jewish voice to completely separate the religion from Zionist Israel and to deny that the State represents them or their religion. Until they do that they will be blamed and shamed by association.
I am going to put this part of the reply separately because the rest got rather long.
You said: I think that by promoting the idea that it is the Jewish culture that is creating the genocide in Palestine rather than capitalistic greed and colonialist thinking, you are being anti semitic.
Ah, I think you misunderstood me. I have often said I reject the claim that Israel represents Judaism.
What I was saying was that when Jews say Israel represents them or do not counter that claim, they are telling the world that the evil that is Israel and the atrocities it commits represent values and practices by Jews and which are contained in Judaism.
If Jews do not categorically reject Israel as the Jewish State then they are admitting that the horrors Israel inflicts represent them and their religion. That is simple logic.
And trying to blame the horror that is Zionist Israel on capitalism and colonialism lets all those who have supported Israel's atrocities off the hook. Of course holding Jews accountable for the Jewish State will be called anti-semitic, but it is not and to say it is just re-affirms the message to the world that Israel and its evil represents and reflects Judaism and Jews.
First, I didn't say the first sentence properly. I was trying to convey the idea that your analysis only considered the Jewishness of the people living in Israel and not other aspects of who they are. Other than that, I have nothing to add to your comments. Or subtract. We clearly do not see the world the same way, but I thank you for letting me know your thoughts.
Oh okay, I understand now what you were saying.
And no, I was also not clear enough. I am not solely considering the Jewishness of people living in what is called Israel.
I agree with you that there are many factors at work, of course.
I am trying to make the point that Zionist Israel was created in the name of Judaism and Jews, and selectively allows Jews to live there and claims to represent Judaism and every Jew on earth and, because of that, I believe Jews and their religion must take responsibility because they have not forcefully rejected those claims.
Judaism like all religions does not have an overseeing management, but it does have organising bodies for the different groups within Judaism, as other religions do. There is no reason why all of those groups cannot come together to create one voice to counter Israel's claims.
Those groups must join together to create a united Jewish voice to completely separate the religion from Zionist Israel and to deny that the State represents them or their religion. Until they do that they will be blamed and shamed by association.