You said: You analysis only considers the Jewishness of the people living in Israel.
Perhaps I was not clear enough. When I talk about Jews I am talking about the religion and all those who call themselves Jews, real and fake, the latter holding to some religious concepts but calling themselves atheist/secular.
Any Jew anywhere, real or fake, who has actively supported Israel is accountable.
Any Jew, anywhere, real or fake, who has failed to speak out against Zionist Israeli crimes and atrocities is accountable.
All Jews, regardless of support or condemnation for Israel are RESPONSIBLE for cleansing their religion from the taint of Zionist Israel.
You said: They are also capitalists and colonizers.
Everyone is capitalist these days and everyone has colonised. None of them, at least not since truly primitive ancient times, has colonised with a policy of extermination as Israel has and does.
None of the European colonists from the 16th to 19th centuries colonised with the policies that Israel has and does. Yes, there was violence in some places at some times, but never to the level practised by Israelis.
And, all humans have colonised, and often far more violently than Europeans did in recent centuries.
As to capitalism, China is capitalist and a coloniser and so is Indonesia, but neither of them in Tibet and West Papua have inflicted the levels of sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery that the Israelis have done.
Applying the broad brush of capitalism and colonialism is a distraction and one which prevents a clear understanding of how the horror that is Israel was created and maintained.
You said: Zionism came from European Jews primarily.
Yes and No. Plenty of Middle Eastern Jews were happy to become colonists in Palestine and to take up Zionism. Some refused, many did not.
You said: Arab Jews were not Zionist before European Jews came along and imposed Zionism on them.
Some had it imposed, indeed through threat of death, but others joined voluntarily and many were happy enough to become colonists in Palestine and treat the native people like dirt. And yes, I understand the power of Ashkenazi rule in Israel at least until recent times, but today, some of the most fanatical and murderous Israelis have Sephardic and Misrahi origins.
You said": Wherever colonization has happened, the indigenous people have been vilified, called savages or less than human and then murdered and their land was stolen.
A simplistic assessment. You need to take the times and the age into context. All humans have colonised and in earlier times used great violence to take land. Africans, Indians, Asians, Polynesians, Europeans, everyone colonised.
Britain was colonised a dozen times and violently so. African tribes invaded, occupied and colonised throughout the sub continent with terrible violence. So did the Polynesians. Read the histories of New Zealand and Hawaii colonisations by Maoris.
You said: It is capitalism and colonization with a good dose of racism that that has allowed Israel to happen.
All of those factors were certainly at work but they were at work with all colonists throughout history. Some enlightenment as colonial rulers can be seen in the Romans although by our lofty and often imagined modern standards, they too were violent barbarians to those they conquered. But, unlike the Maoris they did not kill and eat the people whose lands they took.
Capitalism is the modern version of Trading. Humans have always traded and always stolen and always invaded, conquered and controlled wealth. That is not new.
Every country and civilization was founded on the basis of capitalism, trading, degrees of racism, considering the other to be inferior, and colonisation - taking land and resources which were of value.
When the Judaic tribe, of Judah, moved into Palestine around 3000 years ago it was doing so on the basis of capitalism, colonisation and racism. Just like the dozens of other tribes who set up camps and kingdoms in Palestine and elsewhere.
You said: The holocaust gave them another excuse to murder and steal land.
The Jewish experience of holocaust was an excuse but also a weapon to beat individuals and nations into submitting to the Zionist plan to colonise Palestine.
You said: But it boils down to capitalist, colonialist, white entitlement.
These are modern terms, thrown around by too many who do not bother to research colonial histories across the ages. You overlook the fact that black, brown, yellow peoples were also capitalists and colonialists. Why? To target only the pale skinned which in itself is erroneous because the Spanish are not pale-skinned and neither are the Italians, but they were at the forefront of colonisations.
White is a racist term and never more so than when applied to colonisations.
You said:Catholics are told that only Catholics will get to heaven.
All religions teach that. It is called marketing.
You said: Any religion that I can think of teaches that they are "the way" and any other way is wrong.
That is also marketing.
You said: Christianity has been the most bloodthirsty in pushing their religious agenda.
Not if you study history back through ancient times. We know more about the Christians because we are in literate societies which write about Europeans and more about Christianity than other religions. Plenty of bloodthirsty Africans, Asians, Indians, Polynesians have been a part of history pushing religious agendas.
You said: People are not born thinking that they can murder and steal because their religion and race makes them better.
And indeed most are not taught that. Some are and when they are allowed to get away with it as the Israelis have done, they become even more evil.
For all the sins of Christianity, and they are many, there is also no doubt that it was one religion which believed followers should care for everyone, regardless of who they were, what colour their skin or what religion they followed. That teaching alone was quite remarkable. Most religions teach that but only for followers of their religion. Christianity was different and it has a long, long history of caring for all and caring about all. You should read the histories of missionaries around the world. Yes, some were fanatics and some did harm breaking rules in various cultures, but most were well intentioned and indeed, were highly valued by the peoples they tried to help.
You said: You analysis only considers the Jewishness of the people living in Israel.
Perhaps I was not clear enough. When I talk about Jews I am talking about the religion and all those who call themselves Jews, real and fake, the latter holding to some religious concepts but calling themselves atheist/secular.
Any Jew anywhere, real or fake, who has actively supported Israel is accountable.
Any Jew, anywhere, real or fake, who has failed to speak out against Zionist Israeli crimes and atrocities is accountable.
All Jews, regardless of support or condemnation for Israel are RESPONSIBLE for cleansing their religion from the taint of Zionist Israel.
You said: They are also capitalists and colonizers.
Everyone is capitalist these days and everyone has colonised. None of them, at least not since truly primitive ancient times, has colonised with a policy of extermination as Israel has and does.
None of the European colonists from the 16th to 19th centuries colonised with the policies that Israel has and does. Yes, there was violence in some places at some times, but never to the level practised by Israelis.
And, all humans have colonised, and often far more violently than Europeans did in recent centuries.
As to capitalism, China is capitalist and a coloniser and so is Indonesia, but neither of them in Tibet and West Papua have inflicted the levels of sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery that the Israelis have done.
Applying the broad brush of capitalism and colonialism is a distraction and one which prevents a clear understanding of how the horror that is Israel was created and maintained.
You said: Zionism came from European Jews primarily.
Yes and No. Plenty of Middle Eastern Jews were happy to become colonists in Palestine and to take up Zionism. Some refused, many did not.
You said: Arab Jews were not Zionist before European Jews came along and imposed Zionism on them.
Some had it imposed, indeed through threat of death, but others joined voluntarily and many were happy enough to become colonists in Palestine and treat the native people like dirt. And yes, I understand the power of Ashkenazi rule in Israel at least until recent times, but today, some of the most fanatical and murderous Israelis have Sephardic and Misrahi origins.
You said": Wherever colonization has happened, the indigenous people have been vilified, called savages or less than human and then murdered and their land was stolen.
A simplistic assessment. You need to take the times and the age into context. All humans have colonised and in earlier times used great violence to take land. Africans, Indians, Asians, Polynesians, Europeans, everyone colonised.
Britain was colonised a dozen times and violently so. African tribes invaded, occupied and colonised throughout the sub continent with terrible violence. So did the Polynesians. Read the histories of New Zealand and Hawaii colonisations by Maoris.
You said: It is capitalism and colonization with a good dose of racism that that has allowed Israel to happen.
All of those factors were certainly at work but they were at work with all colonists throughout history. Some enlightenment as colonial rulers can be seen in the Romans although by our lofty and often imagined modern standards, they too were violent barbarians to those they conquered. But, unlike the Maoris they did not kill and eat the people whose lands they took.
Capitalism is the modern version of Trading. Humans have always traded and always stolen and always invaded, conquered and controlled wealth. That is not new.
Every country and civilization was founded on the basis of capitalism, trading, degrees of racism, considering the other to be inferior, and colonisation - taking land and resources which were of value.
When the Judaic tribe, of Judah, moved into Palestine around 3000 years ago it was doing so on the basis of capitalism, colonisation and racism. Just like the dozens of other tribes who set up camps and kingdoms in Palestine and elsewhere.
You said: The holocaust gave them another excuse to murder and steal land.
The Jewish experience of holocaust was an excuse but also a weapon to beat individuals and nations into submitting to the Zionist plan to colonise Palestine.
You said: But it boils down to capitalist, colonialist, white entitlement.
These are modern terms, thrown around by too many who do not bother to research colonial histories across the ages. You overlook the fact that black, brown, yellow peoples were also capitalists and colonialists. Why? To target only the pale skinned which in itself is erroneous because the Spanish are not pale-skinned and neither are the Italians, but they were at the forefront of colonisations.
White is a racist term and never more so than when applied to colonisations.
You said:Catholics are told that only Catholics will get to heaven.
All religions teach that. It is called marketing.
You said: Any religion that I can think of teaches that they are "the way" and any other way is wrong.
That is also marketing.
You said: Christianity has been the most bloodthirsty in pushing their religious agenda.
Not if you study history back through ancient times. We know more about the Christians because we are in literate societies which write about Europeans and more about Christianity than other religions. Plenty of bloodthirsty Africans, Asians, Indians, Polynesians have been a part of history pushing religious agendas.
You said: People are not born thinking that they can murder and steal because their religion and race makes them better.
And indeed most are not taught that. Some are and when they are allowed to get away with it as the Israelis have done, they become even more evil.
For all the sins of Christianity, and they are many, there is also no doubt that it was one religion which believed followers should care for everyone, regardless of who they were, what colour their skin or what religion they followed. That teaching alone was quite remarkable. Most religions teach that but only for followers of their religion. Christianity was different and it has a long, long history of caring for all and caring about all. You should read the histories of missionaries around the world. Yes, some were fanatics and some did harm breaking rules in various cultures, but most were well intentioned and indeed, were highly valued by the peoples they tried to help.