So these are GOOD Christians, because I agree with them, and they don't force their own corruption onto me, often by torture and murder. And those are BAD Christians, because I don't agree with them or their methods?
And yet it's the BAD Christians who are usually the loudest, and quote "the Bible" the most??
Or why don't I make it all simple, and say the INSTITUTION itself which is corrupt, but there are some good people within it, who would be good people no matter which 'religion' they follow?
There are good Christians, but by and large they are good people DESPITE the influence of Christianity. Not because of it.
Christians: "There was a good, noble and innocent person once"
Ah, what happened?
"He was murdered for our sins, and this was good".
It's not a question of who one considers "good" or "bad" or whether there's an agreement. It's checking the quality of the produce. By their fruit you'll know them. If the fruit is foul or poisonous you know who they are. Nothing to do with anything else.
Well said and true. The Institution is a human-made artifice and as such can be used for whatever ends they want to pursue. God didn’t ask for it and has nothing to do with it, just the same as God doesn’t respect or have anything to do with geopolitical boundaries. However, god did grant freedom of will to individuals “without repentance,” meaning that the gift would not be taken away, and every person is responsible for their use of that liberty. It’s a crucial tool for the Great Separation in that those who use this freedom of will for good toward others will be made manifest as will be those who use it to benefit only themselves and/or to oppress, harm and unalive others. Thus, everyone is known for who they are—by the words and actions they produce with the freedom of will they have been given—without prejudice. Seems like a risky but reasonable approach to me, which is why I didn’t throw the baby (Jesus) out with the bathwater when I made the decision not to join up with Christianity as a young person. I have never regretted following him from outside and unencumbered by the obligations and indoctrination of any institution, and I have learned that the understanding, wisdom, and discernment the Spirit imparts is much to be desired. I would not otherwise be alive today.
Ahh, I can play that game, can I?
So these are GOOD Christians, because I agree with them, and they don't force their own corruption onto me, often by torture and murder. And those are BAD Christians, because I don't agree with them or their methods?
And yet it's the BAD Christians who are usually the loudest, and quote "the Bible" the most??
Or why don't I make it all simple, and say the INSTITUTION itself which is corrupt, but there are some good people within it, who would be good people no matter which 'religion' they follow?
There are good Christians, but by and large they are good people DESPITE the influence of Christianity. Not because of it.
Christians: "There was a good, noble and innocent person once"
Ah, what happened?
"He was murdered for our sins, and this was good".
Wut?!?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GxODmgjCNw
It's not a question of who one considers "good" or "bad" or whether there's an agreement. It's checking the quality of the produce. By their fruit you'll know them. If the fruit is foul or poisonous you know who they are. Nothing to do with anything else.
Well said and true. The Institution is a human-made artifice and as such can be used for whatever ends they want to pursue. God didn’t ask for it and has nothing to do with it, just the same as God doesn’t respect or have anything to do with geopolitical boundaries. However, god did grant freedom of will to individuals “without repentance,” meaning that the gift would not be taken away, and every person is responsible for their use of that liberty. It’s a crucial tool for the Great Separation in that those who use this freedom of will for good toward others will be made manifest as will be those who use it to benefit only themselves and/or to oppress, harm and unalive others. Thus, everyone is known for who they are—by the words and actions they produce with the freedom of will they have been given—without prejudice. Seems like a risky but reasonable approach to me, which is why I didn’t throw the baby (Jesus) out with the bathwater when I made the decision not to join up with Christianity as a young person. I have never regretted following him from outside and unencumbered by the obligations and indoctrination of any institution, and I have learned that the understanding, wisdom, and discernment the Spirit imparts is much to be desired. I would not otherwise be alive today.