Oddly enough I looked up the CEO heads of the Studios. Disney, Bob Iger is a Jew. CEO of Warner Brothers, David Zaslow is a Jew. CEO of paramount pictures - Brian Robbins is also Jewish. One of the greatest directors of our generation, Steven Spielberg is also Jewish.
So your statement is true. But your logic is that of a two year old. Just because someone is Jewish does not automatically mean they are a Zionist or support genocide.
However, I with Caitlin will be seeing who there in Hollywood will speak out against this ongoing horrific act against humanity, these sadistic crimes against innocent children - and will watch to see who among them condemns the genocide, or if they support Israel instead. And whatever religion they believe in, or whether they are an Atheist is irrelevant - they condemn themselves as depraved (or shallow) human beings and are complicit in this savagery against humanity. Our humanity - the world's humanity.
What you're doing here is insinuating if you're simply Jewish, then you automatically are for genocide. That is exactly the kind of talk the German Nazis used against the Jews - stereotyped generalizations that were unfairly applied in a hateful manner. Not all Jewish people support Zionism.
I think they effectively already are, because ADL Reports "document" a "dramatic rise in anti-semitic events", which include protests and public statements against the genocide or in support of a "free Palestine". That's "hate speech" and borderline terrorism too, right? People are being jailed for that in UK and Germany right now. How long before US National Security State makes that a formal designation under US law?
Nope. The organization housed in the building named in honour of Americas foremost fascist J.Edgar Hoover….carries on the tradition of mainly criminalising protest movements of marginalised and poor people:
Or it could mean that Patrick's post was meant to persuade you to come to your unjustified conclusion. I'm not saying one way or the other. I'm just trying to listen to Snowden's advice on apophenia .
Then they should stop the kabuki and go protest at their temple or at their community center - to their leaders. Which happen to also be the leaders of their country. This would be more direct and honest than symbolic public protest.
Jesus went and preached among the sinners. Not to the converted.
I find it "interesting" that the only time I ever hear about the "Jewish Voice for Peace" is when someone wants to insist "all Jews aren't bad". Are they really just a front?
Now, Finkelstein, Mate, Blumenthal, and Halper, these are some Jews I can support.
Pew says there are 5.8M Jews in the USA about 2.4% of the US population
JVP says it has nearly 800K members
These numbers say "something". What that "something" is, I can't quite determine or adequately even formulate a question or hypothesis.
I can't help but think of "The squad" and Bernie Sanders when I think about this "something".
I think you've totally misconstrued realists point caused by a serious dose of hostility - "just because someone is Jewish does not automatically mean they are a Zionist or support genocide" but it also does not mean they are willing to risk everything to admit it!
Therefore, remaining silent like Caitlin has continually said, is just as culpable. If you stand and watch a building burn while people are begging for help and you refuse to call the fire dept, are you not just as responsible for their deaths?
It is a known fact Hollywood is owned and operated by the Jews. This goes back decades. Another example - Harvey Weinstein remained protected for how many years - when everyone in Hollywood knew but was to AFRAID to speak up? Why might that be? Meryl Streep even kept her mouth shut - whereas she had nothing to lose. WHY? What was she afraid of? The only one who has any sort of chutzpa is Susan Saradon. As the Brits would say bless her little cottons for standing up and risking it all.
Itis no different then the situation in Gaza and remaining silent for the sake of your career! I have said repeatedly I would be willing to sacrifice my own life if we here in the USA are eventually attacked for all we have done to exacerbate this genocide - if it meant the end to ever staring another war or facilitating one. Five Hundred thousand people have now been killed in Ukraine all because of us.
Everyone willing to kill and be killed - what wonderful thinking. It's Susan Sarandon (not Saradon).
I remember watching her host the Mythos series. That gave me a boner. She's had an envious career as an actress. I thought she was great in "The Lovely Bones". Has "chutzpa" for sure. Didn't like some of her brown nosing with Sanders when it was obvious he sold his movement down the river. But then, many of us were duped by him. So, *shrug*.
I imagine she's been friends with quite a few remarkable people. The people she's known in her life because of both her long (varied) acting career and activism must be impressive by any standard - a rich soul. I'm jealous that she knew and she worked with Peter Jackson! Didn't know that about Vidal.
Hollywood being completely controlled by people of Jewish ancestry actually goes back to the very beginning more than a century ago. It was that way from day one. No one who knows any of the history of Hollywood would deny that unless they want to lie about it. I'm going to go out on a limb and say this subject will not be broached by a single person who walks up on that stage. No one is going to bite the hand that feeds and they have nothing to gain personally from doing so. Just the opposite. Personal gain is really about all those people care about anyway.
It may be so that they are in charge since 100 ago, but the tide was shifted with the movie Pawnbroker from the 1964.
Up till then the RCC (Roman Catholic Church - that I can't stand) were in charge what would be broadcasted on the TV (no explicit scenes, no kissing, no sex scenes or scenes that insinuate sex .. and of course ... no criticism of the church).
All of that changed with the Pawnbroker - story of the Holocaust survivor with lot of sex scenes in it - in the context of Nazi atrocities (rape and so on).
There was not single ONE institution, president, PM, Pope, that dared to ban a movie about the Holocaust.
Nobody dared and that was a (new) start of the porn industry after the WWII.
They don't even hide it that they are the originators and in charge of the porn industry.
During the C19 lunacy, children couldn't go to school or out to play, people were restricted to go out for a walk, banned and fined for going to the beach, but on the TV, all of the porn channels gave FREE access to the porn to EVERYONE.
BJ: All because of our governments that we have no control of at all because this is not government of the people by, the people, for the people, it is government of the people by the rich and powerful of a variety of religions and ethnicities for the rich and powerful of a variety of religions and ethnicities.
Folks, if you will take a minute to recall, a bunch of Hollywood celebrities condemned Israel’s invasion of Gaza and the wanton death and destruction it brought - Mark Ruffalo was one of them - and all of them were forced to sign a groveling letter of apology admitting they were wrong - so I’m afraid Caitlin has set the bar too high for this year’s Oscars. There won’t be any calls for Free Palestine going on at the Oscars. The movie and television industry in this country is dominated by Jews, as are the talent agencies, as is every other aspect of that industry.
I doubt that Susan Sarandon is nominated for anything, but if she is and wins, I bet she condemns the invasion of Gaza and won't apologize for it. I wouldn't.
I agree. There are many Jews with an intact conscience but MSM makes sure we don’t hear much about them. I doubt any Oscar winners will condemn the Gaza genocide as that isn’t a “cause” — they’re more likely to remind us that cows, leaf lowers and gas stoves are destroying the planet. They all appear to me (and I don’t know any of them) to be shallow, self absorbed and cowardly.
Didn't know that about Redgrave ....So rare...like a roger waters rare..
Being around the industry it occurred to me they all want to live some Hollywood royalty existence and not be ostracized in that world.. so they either shut up go along or are in on it... Money and fame tends to rot their integrity from the outside in ... but they are great at virtue signaling performance theatrics... Most of the rank and file employees do to but i hear bits and bobs of alternative thinking from the regular worker drones they often exploit.
The fact is that media and entertainment institutions in the US maintain an iron wall of solidarity with the zionists and are a core pillar of the US support for this effort.
The fact is also that there is a vastly disproportionate percentage of the leadership and ownership of these industries, by people’s whos ethnic background (a factor the US society is very obsessed classifying and highlighting in all other aspects of life…except here) is linked to Israel.
If these were Chineses Americans in charge of a media and cultural sector that held the line on radical chinese practices that involved apartheid and mass murder……no one would be pussyfooting around the issue. No one would hesitate to call out the dissonance.
But here we see an attempt to throw in the “anti-s……” card. Again. And again. And again. Stop.
It walks like a duck. It quacks like a duck. Because it is a duck. Stop pretending everything else.
Even if a particular ethnicity does control Hollywood, whether that is Jewish or Chinese or whatever, I don't see that it is OK to call out ALL Jews or ALL Chinese people. What about those white Christians who have been trying to take over everything everywhere they go? So are ALL Christians culpable for what SOME Christians do?
No one called MLK a n anti Christian or a self hating Christian when he wrote over and over that the Christian community was a corrosive element helping to perpetuate Jim Crow racism and apartheid.
Similarly no one should feel they cannot point out that the Jewish community is in the same position today as Christians were back then.
It is what is.
Spend more time on changing the behaviour instead of complaining and trying to smear those who identified the behaviour.
Judaism is an identifiable religion- and at this time this religion needs to align itself with human rights values and take a CLEAN separation from these genocidal forces assembled and acting in its name.
Excommunicate them or whatever you have to do. Ban them from your temples.
Same as everyone demanded when they accused the Muslims of tolerating terrorism.
I’m saying when Hollywood and the media are in fact controlled predominantly by people of Jewish background who hold clearly Zionist sympathies it’s perfectly legitimate to identify the background of those people and the policies they are pursuing. There is a problem in the U.S. with a set of people of Jewish background and with Israeli connections, using their positions as oligarchs in the U.S. to block public discourse and protest of Israeli apartheid and genocide.
But every time people point of plain facts the same old red herring tactics are flung out
I agree with you, I think. But in the comments here there are often by people who refer to Jews as the problem, not only in connection with Hollywood. I think it is more important now, than before October 7, to be careful how we criticize people because there are so many times when speaking in support of Palestine or in opposition to what the State of Israel is doing that people lose their jobs or are wrongly accused of antisemitism. I am not saying this to protect people who call out undue influence of the Israel lobby on American foreign policy. I am saying this to make sure that we continue to criticize the State of Israel and the Israel Lobby, and don't blanket criticize all Jews. I want us to avoid being accused of antisemitism in the hope that eventually those who need to see will see that the State of Israel and the Israel Lobby are responsible for a lot of deaths, pain and suffering.
AS i agree with you Susan i also can not get around the shear numbers of Jewish folks who even if out of ignorance and propaganda support and run cover for this genocide... And all of it for 80 years...I think statistics are not always a good measure bit the math don't lie here. It is the responsibility of the Jewish community to hold themselves to account and if they don't we have to..despite their supremacist mindset that tells them "HOW DARE YOU! "
It’s not an abstract “lobby” that is sponsoring this killing machine. It’s specific people - and the are doing it militantly and in the name of a specific religion.
They are doing it in the name of Israel not in the name of Judaism. I don't think they even care about Judaism. And they don't respect it. They are like any other group of money grubbers. They are in it for money and power and they are promoting Israel, not Judaism. And I agree, the Israel lobby is not an abstract group. They are, unfortunately, much too real.
You make a valid point ...but indeed USA being known as a Christian nation has plenty of Christian dysfunction built right into it...and they just happens to aligned perfectly with Jewish Zionists psycology of a punitive exploitative corrupt social order.. Not to mention unabashed colonialism and imperialism justified and normalized..
That said i know many Jewish and Christians who keep their religions in the spirit intended ...i worked with several older Jewish and christian ladies on Palestinian support and protest campaigns spent time with their families and at meetings AS well as Muslims and Islamic folk and Palestinians all working together..All lovely kind decent folks i call close endearing friends to this day.
And i also shielded and protected them from Zionist trying to attack and spit on them at some of our protests..
I have never agreed with the mass American Japanese internment into camps after the Pearl Harbor attack, and wouldn't today. So no - don't buy your walks and quacks like a duck argument at all.
Anyone doing the math on this knows the Jewish supremacist influence on Hollywood culture and western society is deep and profound and not all good.... as Chapel said " a lot of jews"---"I mean alot"
Oh I agree that the entire industry is populated with representatives of every walk of life...
I worked on a project where a Jew a German and a Japanese and Muslim in the same room worked on WW2 film soundtracks and at one point we all realized it and had a laugh about it and praised the fact we all could be there together in friendship.
And how far we have come sins then.
But the industry heads, and upper control manegment are all outwardly Israel supporters. And if anyone speaks out too forcfully you will find yourself on the outs pretty quick so most just keep it about the work..and leave the politics for your private life.
Even though on social media I have been outspoken and knew it was seen by others in the biz. But nI one denies the heavy influence of Jews in our industry..it's like a running joke everyone accepts.
I agree, but humans being what they are, if Chinese Americans controlled Hollywood, etc., actors would stay silent about radical Chinese practices that involved apartheid and mass murder. We need look no farther than the fine example that chicken shit John Cena who apologized to the Chinese government - in hastily learned Mandarin - for some off the cuff remark he made about China the government took offense to - as an example of the personal integrity and courage of this minuscule subset of the population.
I saw this comment a few years ago and it seems fairly accurate
Zionism hides behind anti-Semitism and expertly manipulates Hollywood and all forms of propaganda, including the fake news mainstream media that serves two masters — Zionism and the Deep State. Zionism is indefensible by the truth and relies on lies, bribery, and blackmail to get its way. The nine million loyal American Jews are not Zionists and they are not the problem.
The general fault is nationalism -- the belief that people of one's own kind are somehow better and more deserving of consideration than people of other kinds. One of the pathological traits we are going to need to get rid of somehow. What was it they said about patriotism? The last refuge of a scoundrel?
Let's at least recognize this part of the general problem.
No one will go any further that Kamala's call for a "temporary cease fire so all the hostages can be freed". They might even mention "humanitarian relief": but that would be a "bold statement".
And her delivery of those remarks while commemorating Bloody Sunday in Selma Alabama was a cynical insult to history.
I thought Harris's contribution was a cat's paw, an experiment to see what can be gotten away with. The insanity of the Gaza massacres has probably occasioned some factional disputes among our rulers given its high cost, but they don't know how to play it yet.
I think a sop would be more innocent. There is no excuse or mitigation for Biden, but I think his handlers are experimenting with ways to possibly get him off the karmic hook. What a job!
Yeah i think we're in danger of not letting ourselves point out observable facts. Jewish people are overrepresented as the head of studios and power in Hollywood (though Tom Cruise and the scientologists are influential among actors). Jewish people (including those who are also openly support the genocide such as Simon Schaema and Hadley Freeman) though they arer a small percentage of the population are overrepresented in British media and journalism and are allowed to share their views in national newspapers.
It would be foolish and illogical to say that the skewing of representation doesn't have a huge influence on the narrative and how likely people who want to work or make films are to speak out against a Jewish nation.
Should we assume that a journalist or studio owner, who have massive power and influence, who is also Jewish, who doesn't condemn the genocide are in fact Zionists and complicit in genocide?
"Oddly enough I looked up the CEO heads of the Studios. Disney, Bob Iger is a Jew. CEO of Warner Brothers, David Zaslow is a Jew. CEO of paramount pictures - Brian Robbins is also Jewish."
Why oddly enough? This has been the case since the motion picture industry started.
"Just because someone is Jewish does not automatically mean they are a Zionist or support genocide."
That is true. I never said all Jews support the genocide.
"What you're doing here is insinuating if you're simply Jewish, then you automatically are for genocide."
Now, you are using the logic of a two-year-old. How would you know what I am insinuating?
"Not all Jewish people support Zionism."
But the majority does, especially the wealthy ones.
I believe that Only the very committed will speak against the hand that feeds them . Whether jew, christian, faux christian zionist or other. None will speak for Palestine. We shall see very soon where their conscience lies.
This is exactly the kind of talk the jews used against the nazis stereotyped generalizations that were unfairly applied in a hateful manner. Not all german people support nazis
There does seem to be an intriguing schizophrenia in Jewish culture that requires explanation., whereby many of the Jewish intelligentsia and cultural elites virtue-signal pro-Palestinian, while especially ever since October 7 (as if a collective memo went out) many of them, perhaps a majority, are virtual-signalling pro-Israel (see Douglas Murray for the most unctuous displays of such).
Oddly enough I looked up the CEO heads of the Studios. Disney, Bob Iger is a Jew. CEO of Warner Brothers, David Zaslow is a Jew. CEO of paramount pictures - Brian Robbins is also Jewish. One of the greatest directors of our generation, Steven Spielberg is also Jewish.
So your statement is true. But your logic is that of a two year old. Just because someone is Jewish does not automatically mean they are a Zionist or support genocide.
However, I with Caitlin will be seeing who there in Hollywood will speak out against this ongoing horrific act against humanity, these sadistic crimes against innocent children - and will watch to see who among them condemns the genocide, or if they support Israel instead. And whatever religion they believe in, or whether they are an Atheist is irrelevant - they condemn themselves as depraved (or shallow) human beings and are complicit in this savagery against humanity. Our humanity - the world's humanity.
What you're doing here is insinuating if you're simply Jewish, then you automatically are for genocide. That is exactly the kind of talk the German Nazis used against the Jews - stereotyped generalizations that were unfairly applied in a hateful manner. Not all Jewish people support Zionism.
One of the best organizations protesting the genocide in Gaza is Jewish Voice For Peace.
Soon to be declared a terrorist organization.
I think they effectively already are, because ADL Reports "document" a "dramatic rise in anti-semitic events", which include protests and public statements against the genocide or in support of a "free Palestine". That's "hate speech" and borderline terrorism too, right? People are being jailed for that in UK and Germany right now. How long before US National Security State makes that a formal designation under US law?
Nope. The organization housed in the building named in honour of Americas foremost fascist J.Edgar Hoover….carries on the tradition of mainly criminalising protest movements of marginalised and poor people:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/10/11/297024/
OCTOBER 11, 2023
The FBI’s Long History of Criminalizing Dissent
Not rich “white” ones.
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That will mean...they are actually telling the truth!
Or it could mean that Patrick's post was meant to persuade you to come to your unjustified conclusion. I'm not saying one way or the other. I'm just trying to listen to Snowden's advice on apophenia .
Jewish Voice For Peace is not a part of the msm, let alone Hollywood.
Max Blumenthal (the Grayzone) and Aaron Mate are also Jewish and very vocal about it, but they are not part of the msm.
They are getting attacked and labeled as we are.
But the fact is that 98% of the msm is in the hands of the Jews (Zionists).
The most powerful weapon there is - is the information, because, he who controls the information (flow), controls your brain.
Winning (their) wars without a single bullet being shot.
Then they should stop the kabuki and go protest at their temple or at their community center - to their leaders. Which happen to also be the leaders of their country. This would be more direct and honest than symbolic public protest.
Jesus went and preached among the sinners. Not to the converted.
"Jew(Zionists)"
Jew and Zionists are not the same, so I don't know why you put these words together like this
I find it "interesting" that the only time I ever hear about the "Jewish Voice for Peace" is when someone wants to insist "all Jews aren't bad". Are they really just a front?
Now, Finkelstein, Mate, Blumenthal, and Halper, these are some Jews I can support.
Pew says there are 5.8M Jews in the USA about 2.4% of the US population
JVP says it has nearly 800K members
These numbers say "something". What that "something" is, I can't quite determine or adequately even formulate a question or hypothesis.
I can't help but think of "The squad" and Bernie Sanders when I think about this "something".
I think you've totally misconstrued realists point caused by a serious dose of hostility - "just because someone is Jewish does not automatically mean they are a Zionist or support genocide" but it also does not mean they are willing to risk everything to admit it!
Therefore, remaining silent like Caitlin has continually said, is just as culpable. If you stand and watch a building burn while people are begging for help and you refuse to call the fire dept, are you not just as responsible for their deaths?
It is a known fact Hollywood is owned and operated by the Jews. This goes back decades. Another example - Harvey Weinstein remained protected for how many years - when everyone in Hollywood knew but was to AFRAID to speak up? Why might that be? Meryl Streep even kept her mouth shut - whereas she had nothing to lose. WHY? What was she afraid of? The only one who has any sort of chutzpa is Susan Saradon. As the Brits would say bless her little cottons for standing up and risking it all.
Itis no different then the situation in Gaza and remaining silent for the sake of your career! I have said repeatedly I would be willing to sacrifice my own life if we here in the USA are eventually attacked for all we have done to exacerbate this genocide - if it meant the end to ever staring another war or facilitating one. Five Hundred thousand people have now been killed in Ukraine all because of us.
Everyone willing to kill and be killed - what wonderful thinking. It's Susan Sarandon (not Saradon).
I remember watching her host the Mythos series. That gave me a boner. She's had an envious career as an actress. I thought she was great in "The Lovely Bones". Has "chutzpa" for sure. Didn't like some of her brown nosing with Sanders when it was obvious he sold his movement down the river. But then, many of us were duped by him. So, *shrug*.
Did you know both her and her ex-husband were close friends with Gore Vidal?
I imagine she's been friends with quite a few remarkable people. The people she's known in her life because of both her long (varied) acting career and activism must be impressive by any standard - a rich soul. I'm jealous that she knew and she worked with Peter Jackson! Didn't know that about Vidal.
Hollywood being completely controlled by people of Jewish ancestry actually goes back to the very beginning more than a century ago. It was that way from day one. No one who knows any of the history of Hollywood would deny that unless they want to lie about it. I'm going to go out on a limb and say this subject will not be broached by a single person who walks up on that stage. No one is going to bite the hand that feeds and they have nothing to gain personally from doing so. Just the opposite. Personal gain is really about all those people care about anyway.
It may be so that they are in charge since 100 ago, but the tide was shifted with the movie Pawnbroker from the 1964.
Up till then the RCC (Roman Catholic Church - that I can't stand) were in charge what would be broadcasted on the TV (no explicit scenes, no kissing, no sex scenes or scenes that insinuate sex .. and of course ... no criticism of the church).
All of that changed with the Pawnbroker - story of the Holocaust survivor with lot of sex scenes in it - in the context of Nazi atrocities (rape and so on).
There was not single ONE institution, president, PM, Pope, that dared to ban a movie about the Holocaust.
Nobody dared and that was a (new) start of the porn industry after the WWII.
They don't even hide it that they are the originators and in charge of the porn industry.
During the C19 lunacy, children couldn't go to school or out to play, people were restricted to go out for a walk, banned and fined for going to the beach, but on the TV, all of the porn channels gave FREE access to the porn to EVERYONE.
BJ: All because of our governments that we have no control of at all because this is not government of the people by, the people, for the people, it is government of the people by the rich and powerful of a variety of religions and ethnicities for the rich and powerful of a variety of religions and ethnicities.
Folks, if you will take a minute to recall, a bunch of Hollywood celebrities condemned Israel’s invasion of Gaza and the wanton death and destruction it brought - Mark Ruffalo was one of them - and all of them were forced to sign a groveling letter of apology admitting they were wrong - so I’m afraid Caitlin has set the bar too high for this year’s Oscars. There won’t be any calls for Free Palestine going on at the Oscars. The movie and television industry in this country is dominated by Jews, as are the talent agencies, as is every other aspect of that industry.
Maybe Bernie could show up at the Oscars?
Sanders Rips 'Fiction' That There's Nothing US Can Do to End Gaza Carnage
"Of course we have the leverage," said Sen. Bernie Sanders. "We are funding the war."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/sanders-gaza-leverage?utm_source=Common+Dreams&utm_campaign=503ae616dc-News+Alert%3A+%27Of+Course+We+Have+Leverage%27&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-4da0978648-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D
An unlikely setting for the Bern. Rather like Benjamin Franklin as ambassador to Versailles.
Sanders always comes around after the accident has been cleaned up
I doubt that Susan Sarandon is nominated for anything, but if she is and wins, I bet she condemns the invasion of Gaza and won't apologize for it. I wouldn't.
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I agree. There are many Jews with an intact conscience but MSM makes sure we don’t hear much about them. I doubt any Oscar winners will condemn the Gaza genocide as that isn’t a “cause” — they’re more likely to remind us that cows, leaf lowers and gas stoves are destroying the planet. They all appear to me (and I don’t know any of them) to be shallow, self absorbed and cowardly.
There's no Vanessa Redgrave any more to stand with and for the Palestinian people at the Oscars. I still remember when she did so.
Didn't know that about Redgrave ....So rare...like a roger waters rare..
Being around the industry it occurred to me they all want to live some Hollywood royalty existence and not be ostracized in that world.. so they either shut up go along or are in on it... Money and fame tends to rot their integrity from the outside in ... but they are great at virtue signaling performance theatrics... Most of the rank and file employees do to but i hear bits and bobs of alternative thinking from the regular worker drones they often exploit.
As a young man, I used to enjoy the Oscars. The glamour. The beautiful Movie Stars all dressed up. Some of the speeches and pretty good humor.
Not anymore.
And not because you're no longer a young man.
Doh! Forgot to put that part in.
The film "don't look up" was basically a scolding finger wagging at us little people to do more so they don't have to.
Your not wrong and i know many of them..
The fact is that media and entertainment institutions in the US maintain an iron wall of solidarity with the zionists and are a core pillar of the US support for this effort.
We see incidents like this over and over again
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/30/cnn-fires-contributor-marc-lamont-hill-for-criticising-israel
https://www.firstpost.com/world/us-news-network-msnbc-takes-2-muslim-journalists-off-anchoring-duties-amid-war-in-israel-13246962.html
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/msnbc-cancels-mehdi-hasan-show-weekend-shakeup_n_6568d4ece4b066e398b6e31c
https://time.com/6338695/melissa-barrera-fired-susan-sarandon-israel-hamas-war-hollywood/
The fact is also that there is a vastly disproportionate percentage of the leadership and ownership of these industries, by people’s whos ethnic background (a factor the US society is very obsessed classifying and highlighting in all other aspects of life…except here) is linked to Israel.
If these were Chineses Americans in charge of a media and cultural sector that held the line on radical chinese practices that involved apartheid and mass murder……no one would be pussyfooting around the issue. No one would hesitate to call out the dissonance.
But here we see an attempt to throw in the “anti-s……” card. Again. And again. And again. Stop.
It walks like a duck. It quacks like a duck. Because it is a duck. Stop pretending everything else.
Even if a particular ethnicity does control Hollywood, whether that is Jewish or Chinese or whatever, I don't see that it is OK to call out ALL Jews or ALL Chinese people. What about those white Christians who have been trying to take over everything everywhere they go? So are ALL Christians culpable for what SOME Christians do?
No one called MLK a n anti Christian or a self hating Christian when he wrote over and over that the Christian community was a corrosive element helping to perpetuate Jim Crow racism and apartheid.
Similarly no one should feel they cannot point out that the Jewish community is in the same position today as Christians were back then.
It is what is.
Spend more time on changing the behaviour instead of complaining and trying to smear those who identified the behaviour.
Judaism is an identifiable religion- and at this time this religion needs to align itself with human rights values and take a CLEAN separation from these genocidal forces assembled and acting in its name.
Excommunicate them or whatever you have to do. Ban them from your temples.
Same as everyone demanded when they accused the Muslims of tolerating terrorism.
We are all equal and no group is above reproach.
You’re going off track.
I’m saying when Hollywood and the media are in fact controlled predominantly by people of Jewish background who hold clearly Zionist sympathies it’s perfectly legitimate to identify the background of those people and the policies they are pursuing. There is a problem in the U.S. with a set of people of Jewish background and with Israeli connections, using their positions as oligarchs in the U.S. to block public discourse and protest of Israeli apartheid and genocide.
But every time people point of plain facts the same old red herring tactics are flung out
- pretend that ALL Jews are being criticised
- claim “antisemitism”.
It’s stale and predictable. And you just did it.
I agree with you, I think. But in the comments here there are often by people who refer to Jews as the problem, not only in connection with Hollywood. I think it is more important now, than before October 7, to be careful how we criticize people because there are so many times when speaking in support of Palestine or in opposition to what the State of Israel is doing that people lose their jobs or are wrongly accused of antisemitism. I am not saying this to protect people who call out undue influence of the Israel lobby on American foreign policy. I am saying this to make sure that we continue to criticize the State of Israel and the Israel Lobby, and don't blanket criticize all Jews. I want us to avoid being accused of antisemitism in the hope that eventually those who need to see will see that the State of Israel and the Israel Lobby are responsible for a lot of deaths, pain and suffering.
AS i agree with you Susan i also can not get around the shear numbers of Jewish folks who even if out of ignorance and propaganda support and run cover for this genocide... And all of it for 80 years...I think statistics are not always a good measure bit the math don't lie here. It is the responsibility of the Jewish community to hold themselves to account and if they don't we have to..despite their supremacist mindset that tells them "HOW DARE YOU! "
It’s not an abstract “lobby” that is sponsoring this killing machine. It’s specific people - and the are doing it militantly and in the name of a specific religion.
They are doing it in the name of Israel not in the name of Judaism. I don't think they even care about Judaism. And they don't respect it. They are like any other group of money grubbers. They are in it for money and power and they are promoting Israel, not Judaism. And I agree, the Israel lobby is not an abstract group. They are, unfortunately, much too real.
You make a valid point ...but indeed USA being known as a Christian nation has plenty of Christian dysfunction built right into it...and they just happens to aligned perfectly with Jewish Zionists psycology of a punitive exploitative corrupt social order.. Not to mention unabashed colonialism and imperialism justified and normalized..
That said i know many Jewish and Christians who keep their religions in the spirit intended ...i worked with several older Jewish and christian ladies on Palestinian support and protest campaigns spent time with their families and at meetings AS well as Muslims and Islamic folk and Palestinians all working together..All lovely kind decent folks i call close endearing friends to this day.
And i also shielded and protected them from Zionist trying to attack and spit on them at some of our protests..
I have never agreed with the mass American Japanese internment into camps after the Pearl Harbor attack, and wouldn't today. So no - don't buy your walks and quacks like a duck argument at all.
Anyone doing the math on this knows the Jewish supremacist influence on Hollywood culture and western society is deep and profound and not all good.... as Chapel said " a lot of jews"---"I mean alot"
Alot? Do you have numbers on that? And how many Christians? Atheists?
Oh I agree that the entire industry is populated with representatives of every walk of life...
I worked on a project where a Jew a German and a Japanese and Muslim in the same room worked on WW2 film soundtracks and at one point we all realized it and had a laugh about it and praised the fact we all could be there together in friendship.
And how far we have come sins then.
But the industry heads, and upper control manegment are all outwardly Israel supporters. And if anyone speaks out too forcfully you will find yourself on the outs pretty quick so most just keep it about the work..and leave the politics for your private life.
Even though on social media I have been outspoken and knew it was seen by others in the biz. But nI one denies the heavy influence of Jews in our industry..it's like a running joke everyone accepts.
As you live near Hollywood you'd know yours. As how Melvin Udall knew his: https://youtu.be/YvbLEEnxpUQ?t=38
I don't click on links from a known douchebag like you ..So stop wasting your time being a sniveling little looser no one cares about.
My links are for smart people, Jazzy. You don’t count 😂😂
I agree, but humans being what they are, if Chinese Americans controlled Hollywood, etc., actors would stay silent about radical Chinese practices that involved apartheid and mass murder. We need look no farther than the fine example that chicken shit John Cena who apologized to the Chinese government - in hastily learned Mandarin - for some off the cuff remark he made about China the government took offense to - as an example of the personal integrity and courage of this minuscule subset of the population.
Actually you dont agree - so cut out that BS tactic of writing that as a first sentence. Its shady and manipulative.
I saw this comment a few years ago and it seems fairly accurate
Zionism hides behind anti-Semitism and expertly manipulates Hollywood and all forms of propaganda, including the fake news mainstream media that serves two masters — Zionism and the Deep State. Zionism is indefensible by the truth and relies on lies, bribery, and blackmail to get its way. The nine million loyal American Jews are not Zionists and they are not the problem.
All of Chinese Americans were spending as much money lobbying as AIPAC they'd probably get away with it too.
The general fault is nationalism -- the belief that people of one's own kind are somehow better and more deserving of consideration than people of other kinds. One of the pathological traits we are going to need to get rid of somehow. What was it they said about patriotism? The last refuge of a scoundrel?
Let's at least recognize this part of the general problem.
No one will go any further that Kamala's call for a "temporary cease fire so all the hostages can be freed". They might even mention "humanitarian relief": but that would be a "bold statement".
And her delivery of those remarks while commemorating Bloody Sunday in Selma Alabama was a cynical insult to history.
How weak of Kamala to only call for a temporary ceasefire. The ceasefire should be a permanent one.
This week, California really showed its arse, and as a life-long Californian, it's embarrassing.
I thought Harris's contribution was a cat's paw, an experiment to see what can be gotten away with. The insanity of the Gaza massacres has probably occasioned some factional disputes among our rulers given its high cost, but they don't know how to play it yet.
I saw it as a sop, a moral figleaf that fooled only those who actively wish to be fooled.
I think a sop would be more innocent. There is no excuse or mitigation for Biden, but I think his handlers are experimenting with ways to possibly get him off the karmic hook. What a job!
I'm so sick of the damn "all Jews are Zionist/Israel war machine" narrative.
Yeah i think we're in danger of not letting ourselves point out observable facts. Jewish people are overrepresented as the head of studios and power in Hollywood (though Tom Cruise and the scientologists are influential among actors). Jewish people (including those who are also openly support the genocide such as Simon Schaema and Hadley Freeman) though they arer a small percentage of the population are overrepresented in British media and journalism and are allowed to share their views in national newspapers.
It would be foolish and illogical to say that the skewing of representation doesn't have a huge influence on the narrative and how likely people who want to work or make films are to speak out against a Jewish nation.
Should we assume that a journalist or studio owner, who have massive power and influence, who is also Jewish, who doesn't condemn the genocide are in fact Zionists and complicit in genocide?
"Oddly enough I looked up the CEO heads of the Studios. Disney, Bob Iger is a Jew. CEO of Warner Brothers, David Zaslow is a Jew. CEO of paramount pictures - Brian Robbins is also Jewish."
Why oddly enough? This has been the case since the motion picture industry started.
"Just because someone is Jewish does not automatically mean they are a Zionist or support genocide."
That is true. I never said all Jews support the genocide.
"What you're doing here is insinuating if you're simply Jewish, then you automatically are for genocide."
Now, you are using the logic of a two-year-old. How would you know what I am insinuating?
"Not all Jewish people support Zionism."
But the majority does, especially the wealthy ones.
Or they seem to think they ought to.
I believe that Only the very committed will speak against the hand that feeds them . Whether jew, christian, faux christian zionist or other. None will speak for Palestine. We shall see very soon where their conscience lies.
This is exactly the kind of talk the jews used against the nazis stereotyped generalizations that were unfairly applied in a hateful manner. Not all german people support nazis
Can you actually read? She said exactly the opposite
There does seem to be an intriguing schizophrenia in Jewish culture that requires explanation., whereby many of the Jewish intelligentsia and cultural elites virtue-signal pro-Palestinian, while especially ever since October 7 (as if a collective memo went out) many of them, perhaps a majority, are virtual-signalling pro-Israel (see Douglas Murray for the most unctuous displays of such).