If you're talking about Americans, I really don't think most Americans think their country is just great. There is a lot of dissatisfaction in regard to American policies and things in general. I don't hear people running around singing America's praises. Mostly it's this or that really stinks. Did I misunderstand you.
The only reason people are somewhat waking up is because the abuse has become so bad and lies so blatant and the greed and manipulation so intense its starting to hurt people directly (as all abusers do eventually) .. economic suffering is the worst its ever been and all perpetrated by the very people i talk about...so its the PAIN that is waking them up not the intellectual courage it would have took to see it far way back to have stopped it... because i was warning of it way back when, and was told to move if i don't like it here,, and here we are,,,
One thing is true of Americans and that is they don't have a very good, global perspective on things, and maybe it due to being geographically separate to much of the world. I had a an uncle who was an engineer in the merchant marines, and as a teenager I became aware of his global perspective on things which I thought was really nice and I try to maintain that perspective as well. I think that's where Americans fall short.
I agree, and grammar school teachers don't make much of an effort to teach it. However I do think people in America feel less connected to the world as a whole, and we're special. Kidding.
My grandfather on my moms side was a lieutenant colonel in ww3,, he was an american and married my moms mom, and my mom married a Frenchmen .(thus me eventually) .. so not blood but he was the only grandfather i knew and was a really decent guy too... but that was a different generation..
And yeah most Americans never left their back yards but think they know all about the world due to the TV one way lie machine...
I happen to work around them my whole career... I see a lot of mindless main stream going along..they think that they need to to maintain the celebrity status and ingratiate themselves with the public and the public must be mind control to sell them their entertainment that translates into corporate sales and this is why they all work together to keep the public malleable to manipulation through news films tv and social conditioning...
Well, I wound up in the hospital about 5 years ago, too many NSAIDS I guess, bad back, because I got a stomach bleed. I was there for 6 days. Never saw a doctor except when I first came in, endoscopy, after that no one to explain anything, not even a nurse. Hardly saw them, and Aids dropped off your food on the opposite side of the room, not knowing whether you could or couldn't get up to get it. Six days and no new linens for my bed, and no one knew whether it was dry or wet. Thank god for family. I have a degree in nursing gotten many years before and the actual care nurses provide now really sucks, and the Aids that have taken over the roll of what nurses use to do, don't! After Covid, a real down turn in available staff, not to mention all the deaths from sepsis due to this inadequate dirty care. Forget about nursing homes. now medicine is also big business and doctors don't even own their own practices. Everything is a money making machine in America.
Do you live in America? I don't really see a lot of really happy Americans running around in love with their country. In fact a lot of people I know do a lot of bitching and I can understand why. Funny a couple of cousins, pretty young and still working talk about retiring to Italy, and one just mentioned because of better health care. There are people that defend everything American, even their wars, but there are a whole lot who are not like that. Most Americans are trying to get through their days, I think they would like to portray us that way, but since I'm a kid I never had that perspective on the average American. By the way you should hear Americans bitch about our health care system.
Americans health care system is nothing to do with health and everything to do with MONEY! ONLY ..the "health" part is just treating symptoms with drugs they can make money off of.
Yes, and I've worked in the health care community. and things have really changed. No more local family doctors, and now hospitals and doctors practices are corporately owned.I don't blame them, and I'm not defending America in this regard, just people, ordinary people.
My old country doctor in LA has gotten too old to practice...he was great... and let me pay in cash for little things.. yeah the problem is mom and pop everything is evaporating! makes me sad .
I agree, a lot of things have changed and not for the better. Those family doctors are now gone, and they don't even own their own practices. There were better times.
Well fran ...at my age i may be very jaded at this point...lol
I have seen a lot..been all around the world and met lots of different peoples..
I think my IRE can be summed up in my wish and desire to see a better America ,,but i hate that we are the main problem in the world..I was born of immigrants and grew up in the states..i have been probably to every singe state excluding Alaska at least once.. My father was french my mother German, I'm a baby boomer from the war... But i was not your typical middle american ...grew up near cities lived in NYC and was a musician and technical person for studios etc and now am near hollywood so i'm not just the typical "white guy " angry about the lost 50's or whatever they get on about... I'm a mixed bag of beliefs that span liberal to conservative and way outside most of those narrow conventions and paradigms.. I rank on the USA because i want it to be better and i hate that its citizens are so DUMB!! and terribly prone to the brain washing they are under 24/7
I don't blame you and agree our American policies are self serving here and abroad,. In that regard we suck! Politically even as a kid i didn't like us!!!!!! I learned to separate the people from my government that I never really trusted. Not even as a child.
One on one in my daily life i meet the best people so my anger over all this is general..i get along with most people..(might not know that by my ranting HA!)
I have a whole bunch of great people around me even in the belly of the hollywood beast
If you're talking about Americans, I really don't think most Americans think their country is just great. There is a lot of dissatisfaction in regard to American policies and things in general. I don't hear people running around singing America's praises. Mostly it's this or that really stinks. Did I misunderstand you.
The only reason people are somewhat waking up is because the abuse has become so bad and lies so blatant and the greed and manipulation so intense its starting to hurt people directly (as all abusers do eventually) .. economic suffering is the worst its ever been and all perpetrated by the very people i talk about...so its the PAIN that is waking them up not the intellectual courage it would have took to see it far way back to have stopped it... because i was warning of it way back when, and was told to move if i don't like it here,, and here we are,,,
One thing is true of Americans and that is they don't have a very good, global perspective on things, and maybe it due to being geographically separate to much of the world. I had a an uncle who was an engineer in the merchant marines, and as a teenager I became aware of his global perspective on things which I thought was really nice and I try to maintain that perspective as well. I think that's where Americans fall short.
Well who learns Geography in schools.........my daughter didn't in the USA
yeah, and that is amazing and appalling.
I agree, and grammar school teachers don't make much of an effort to teach it. However I do think people in America feel less connected to the world as a whole, and we're special. Kidding.
My grandfather on my moms side was a lieutenant colonel in ww3,, he was an american and married my moms mom, and my mom married a Frenchmen .(thus me eventually) .. so not blood but he was the only grandfather i knew and was a really decent guy too... but that was a different generation..
And yeah most Americans never left their back yards but think they know all about the world due to the TV one way lie machine...
Fran and Chaz should get a room
"Please don't dominate the rap jack if you got nothing new to say"
(Grateful Dead -New Speedway Boogie)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nOpJMQ3-VE
So you just dominated the rap with bull shit though? Oh so it's only ok for you to do it? I see.
did I have something new to say?
And which comments do you claim "dominate" and are bullshit?
I happen to work around them my whole career... I see a lot of mindless main stream going along..they think that they need to to maintain the celebrity status and ingratiate themselves with the public and the public must be mind control to sell them their entertainment that translates into corporate sales and this is why they all work together to keep the public malleable to manipulation through news films tv and social conditioning...
I have always worked in the help care professions, not in business, so maybe that has given me a different perspective.
I don't have the best view of the entire health care industry myself..i find everyone in it far too institutionalized for my taste..
Now if you are really sick and hospitalized you better have an advocate. That's how bad it has gotten.
Why do you need an advocate?
Well, I wound up in the hospital about 5 years ago, too many NSAIDS I guess, bad back, because I got a stomach bleed. I was there for 6 days. Never saw a doctor except when I first came in, endoscopy, after that no one to explain anything, not even a nurse. Hardly saw them, and Aids dropped off your food on the opposite side of the room, not knowing whether you could or couldn't get up to get it. Six days and no new linens for my bed, and no one knew whether it was dry or wet. Thank god for family. I have a degree in nursing gotten many years before and the actual care nurses provide now really sucks, and the Aids that have taken over the roll of what nurses use to do, don't! After Covid, a real down turn in available staff, not to mention all the deaths from sepsis due to this inadequate dirty care. Forget about nursing homes. now medicine is also big business and doctors don't even own their own practices. Everything is a money making machine in America.
"far too institutionalized for my taste..." - could it be you're looking at it from the institution side?
OH i see you tried to be funny? cute....ugh!
Cool, you've figured that one out. Means you're still with us 😉
Thats a stupid non sequitur comment that does not deserve an answer but you are really all about these kind of stupid ass statements
I was talking specifically about Celebrities at first but expanded that to the proletariat.
Do you live in America? I don't really see a lot of really happy Americans running around in love with their country. In fact a lot of people I know do a lot of bitching and I can understand why. Funny a couple of cousins, pretty young and still working talk about retiring to Italy, and one just mentioned because of better health care. There are people that defend everything American, even their wars, but there are a whole lot who are not like that. Most Americans are trying to get through their days, I think they would like to portray us that way, but since I'm a kid I never had that perspective on the average American. By the way you should hear Americans bitch about our health care system.
Americans health care system is nothing to do with health and everything to do with MONEY! ONLY ..the "health" part is just treating symptoms with drugs they can make money off of.
Yes, and I've worked in the health care community. and things have really changed. No more local family doctors, and now hospitals and doctors practices are corporately owned.I don't blame them, and I'm not defending America in this regard, just people, ordinary people.
My old country doctor in LA has gotten too old to practice...he was great... and let me pay in cash for little things.. yeah the problem is mom and pop everything is evaporating! makes me sad .
I agree, a lot of things have changed and not for the better. Those family doctors are now gone, and they don't even own their own practices. There were better times.
Well fran ...at my age i may be very jaded at this point...lol
I have seen a lot..been all around the world and met lots of different peoples..
I think my IRE can be summed up in my wish and desire to see a better America ,,but i hate that we are the main problem in the world..I was born of immigrants and grew up in the states..i have been probably to every singe state excluding Alaska at least once.. My father was french my mother German, I'm a baby boomer from the war... But i was not your typical middle american ...grew up near cities lived in NYC and was a musician and technical person for studios etc and now am near hollywood so i'm not just the typical "white guy " angry about the lost 50's or whatever they get on about... I'm a mixed bag of beliefs that span liberal to conservative and way outside most of those narrow conventions and paradigms.. I rank on the USA because i want it to be better and i hate that its citizens are so DUMB!! and terribly prone to the brain washing they are under 24/7
I don't blame you and agree our American policies are self serving here and abroad,. In that regard we suck! Politically even as a kid i didn't like us!!!!!! I learned to separate the people from my government that I never really trusted. Not even as a child.
One on one in my daily life i meet the best people so my anger over all this is general..i get along with most people..(might not know that by my ranting HA!)
I have a whole bunch of great people around me even in the belly of the hollywood beast
Yeah, it's not the people, but the crap government we have, and all those who will sell their soul for money and power and make a mess of things.