Yes, you are right, Susan, But Realist also is right in that many have not made the grade or continued a film career for the reasons mentioned. The same reason that all will be quiet at the Oscars this year as well.
One example, Mel Gibson.
This sublimation by the empire managers to an unholy bunch of murdering misfits, needs to cease, now
A comment from an ex-Senator in the USA named James Abourezk……..
“The public must realise that far from being an asset, Israel is a chronic liability that squanders billions of American dollars, drags the United States into wars and whose genocidal treatment of the Palestinians is radically destroying America’s moral pretensions in most of the world.”
The USA is burning its bridges, one by one. Ralph Nader today suggested that the death toll in Palesrtine is really 200,000, not that this figure will have any effect of the criminal Congress, the likes of Schumer, Blinken the wandering Jew or people like Nuland, now on the way out.
Mel Gibson did it to himself, with one drunken night to many. And he pretty much insinuated what Realist just insinuated in the original post, that all jews are responsible for some "evil" - in Mel's case, it was all the wars in the world.
It wasn't because Hollywood does indeed have quite a few CEOs who are Jewish - it was because Gibson exposed to the public a personal character flaw that was so egregious - people didn't want to be associated with him anymore.
By the way, I still watch Braveheart from time to time - an amazing film. It's really sad his career took a hit after that fateful drunken day.
You mean -after- they had been propagandized by the Jewish Lobby?
I'm sure you've heard, "All wars are banker's wars".
The corollary, "All bankers are Jews".
Now, think carefully about what I'm suggesting here.
This is NOT an indictment of -all- Jews.
Refer to the Pew study that only 5.8% of the US population is Jewish. It should be obvious that small minority has influence over US politics that far, far, far outweighs their numbers.
I know that many people do not seem to care about what is happening in Gaza. Still, I think it is important to think about how we say what we need to say and don't increase the actual antisemitism. We need to be able to critique the claims that speaking against the State of Israel is antisemitic which means we need to think about not confusing the term "Jew" with the term "State of Israel"; make it very clear that our criticism is of the State of Israel or Netanyahu and not a criticism of anyone for being Jewish.
Agreed, as would most readers, I am sure. Caitlin too.
However, I do feel that calling someone antisemitic has been used as a weapon by Jewish people as well as the media, primarily in the USA, where a population has seen its political class discard their once held values for financial support, just to maintain a well paid seat in government. 86% fit that bill in Congress alone. From then on, needing to toe the line. Hence we see support for genocide, multi billions in aid for inhumane acts, still in progress.
It has since become a tool with which to beat down opposition to anything stated that is in any way a criticism of questionable Jewish behaviour as well, of which there has been a great deal in recent times.
If there was a similar phrase, such as antiArabicism would we be screaming about this every day as we see and hear the disturbing comments by members of the Israeli Knesset and the people of Israel. I won't list them but in my lifetime, I have never heard such disgraceful comments against a race of people, that is Palestinians, even against the Nazis in WWII.
After 9-11 I heard many disgusting comments about Muslims and people of Arabic descent. It would seem that people have a difficult time seeing that there are horrible people of all religions and ethnicities as well as really fine people. There are certainly many Christians who have committed horrible crimes. I think it is very important right now to be careful not to be antisemitic so that as the State of Israel commits its actual crimes we can speak out against them and underscore what we are saying as being against the State of Israel and not against all Jews. I think that right now it is more important even than it was before October 7th to be really careful to use clear language and to make it clear that what we oppose is what the State of Israel and its military is doing to Palestinian people and to Gaza.
That is true but over the last half century many impartial skilled observers have maintained that almost from its inception Jews have been its controlling force. Not a majority but a controlling minority
True, they may not be vocal about it, and as you say due to fear regarding their careers, but I'm sure almost all do not support what Israel is doing. It will be interesting to watch and if they do speak up it will be a very good day and indicative of things might just be changing. We'll see.
It would certainly be a monumental start to destroying the Israel Lobby and the stronghold they have.
All it would take is one person to come out and say Israel has to much power and the time has come to remove all of it. Then think forward all it would take is one audience member to stand and cheer and the entire theater would do the same. It would be a standing ovation for several minutes that would then make the news for days and days upon end.
Well, normally I wouldn't watch the Oscars, but in the past I did. During Trump's presidency they said things, nasty things, but then everyone was doing it and I saw that as nothing more then a kind of opportunism, no risk involved. I've been reading about the Jewish lobby and it's scary how they could ruin you. So my guess is that people might say something like they are wishing for peace in the world, but nothing accusatory, or specific and that's as far as they will go. Maybe if everyone did it there might be a chance since the lobby couldn't go about destroying everyone, too obvious. Well, this time I will watch.
As an aside, I find it rich how the #resistance acts like brave freedom fights facing down evil, when they're backed by Hollywood, major corporations, and the FBI, CIA and NSA, to name a few.
No your not going to find public figures willing to stand up to truth and justice, too afraid to be ostracized. and the lobby has instilled public figures with real fear, well those who have a lot to lose should they go against their talking points. It's ugly.
So much for the usa/the West being democracies. Just look at how the usa can mass murder some 2966 in the Twin Towers on 9/11 and the Pentagon, PA and very few care. Then the usa goes on from their preplanned 9/11 false flag to mass murder another 4 to 6 million folks in all their illegal invasions. That is more than the G Holocaust.
Then there is all the other usa Holocausts, the biggest one the American Holocaust which includes canada and all of Latin American nations, STILL going on to this day.
I don't disagree, and have a lot of questions about what happened on 9/11, and wonder whether it was the new Pearl harbor the neocons were waiting for and made happen. I did make a great effort to be part of the anti-war movement which came to naught so If you think I am pro-American in this regard, well that has never been true since I was 7 when those cowboys killed all the Indians who lived on this land first.
You might want to find Ritter's article on Gonzalo Lira being an asset for the Ukraine SBU.
Criticism can be used to deflect action. Look at how Joe Biden is criticizing Israel while still shipping tons of bombs.
From the above article. Gee, sounds to me like he's pointing fingers at the ultimate prevaricator Netanyahu.
"Sanchez: I'm telling you that everybody who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart, and a lot of people who run all the other networks are a lot like Stewart. And to imply that somehow they – the people in this country who are Jewish – are an oppressed minority? Yeah."
I guess I'm just trying to say that believing in "everything Stewart" because he mouths a few words you agree with, isn't going to get you to the conclusions you need.
There are plenty of people besides Jews in Hollywood. Guess you didn't make it to the last couple of paragraphs of Caitlin's post
Yes, you are right, Susan, But Realist also is right in that many have not made the grade or continued a film career for the reasons mentioned. The same reason that all will be quiet at the Oscars this year as well.
One example, Mel Gibson.
This sublimation by the empire managers to an unholy bunch of murdering misfits, needs to cease, now
A comment from an ex-Senator in the USA named James Abourezk……..
“The public must realise that far from being an asset, Israel is a chronic liability that squanders billions of American dollars, drags the United States into wars and whose genocidal treatment of the Palestinians is radically destroying America’s moral pretensions in most of the world.”
The USA is burning its bridges, one by one. Ralph Nader today suggested that the death toll in Palesrtine is really 200,000, not that this figure will have any effect of the criminal Congress, the likes of Schumer, Blinken the wandering Jew or people like Nuland, now on the way out.
People like that just don’t give a damn
Mel Gibson did it to himself, with one drunken night to many. And he pretty much insinuated what Realist just insinuated in the original post, that all jews are responsible for some "evil" - in Mel's case, it was all the wars in the world.
It wasn't because Hollywood does indeed have quite a few CEOs who are Jewish - it was because Gibson exposed to the public a personal character flaw that was so egregious - people didn't want to be associated with him anymore.
By the way, I still watch Braveheart from time to time - an amazing film. It's really sad his career took a hit after that fateful drunken day.
"People"?
You mean -after- they had been propagandized by the Jewish Lobby?
I'm sure you've heard, "All wars are banker's wars".
The corollary, "All bankers are Jews".
Now, think carefully about what I'm suggesting here.
This is NOT an indictment of -all- Jews.
Refer to the Pew study that only 5.8% of the US population is Jewish. It should be obvious that small minority has influence over US politics that far, far, far outweighs their numbers.
Why?
My apologies, Jamenta. Information about which I was unaware.
No need to apologize to me Contrarian. You didn't insult me - you just had a different opinion. Which isn't a thought crime ... yet.
I know that many people do not seem to care about what is happening in Gaza. Still, I think it is important to think about how we say what we need to say and don't increase the actual antisemitism. We need to be able to critique the claims that speaking against the State of Israel is antisemitic which means we need to think about not confusing the term "Jew" with the term "State of Israel"; make it very clear that our criticism is of the State of Israel or Netanyahu and not a criticism of anyone for being Jewish.
Agreed, as would most readers, I am sure. Caitlin too.
However, I do feel that calling someone antisemitic has been used as a weapon by Jewish people as well as the media, primarily in the USA, where a population has seen its political class discard their once held values for financial support, just to maintain a well paid seat in government. 86% fit that bill in Congress alone. From then on, needing to toe the line. Hence we see support for genocide, multi billions in aid for inhumane acts, still in progress.
It has since become a tool with which to beat down opposition to anything stated that is in any way a criticism of questionable Jewish behaviour as well, of which there has been a great deal in recent times.
If there was a similar phrase, such as antiArabicism would we be screaming about this every day as we see and hear the disturbing comments by members of the Israeli Knesset and the people of Israel. I won't list them but in my lifetime, I have never heard such disgraceful comments against a race of people, that is Palestinians, even against the Nazis in WWII.
After 9-11 I heard many disgusting comments about Muslims and people of Arabic descent. It would seem that people have a difficult time seeing that there are horrible people of all religions and ethnicities as well as really fine people. There are certainly many Christians who have committed horrible crimes. I think it is very important right now to be careful not to be antisemitic so that as the State of Israel commits its actual crimes we can speak out against them and underscore what we are saying as being against the State of Israel and not against all Jews. I think that right now it is more important even than it was before October 7th to be really careful to use clear language and to make it clear that what we oppose is what the State of Israel and its military is doing to Palestinian people and to Gaza.
That is true but over the last half century many impartial skilled observers have maintained that almost from its inception Jews have been its controlling force. Not a majority but a controlling minority
I'm not in the blame da joos camp, but proportion matters.
"There are plenty of people besides Jews in Hollywood."
So what? The ones who count, the ones who control Hollywood, are mostly Jewish.
True, they may not be vocal about it, and as you say due to fear regarding their careers, but I'm sure almost all do not support what Israel is doing. It will be interesting to watch and if they do speak up it will be a very good day and indicative of things might just be changing. We'll see.
It would certainly be a monumental start to destroying the Israel Lobby and the stronghold they have.
All it would take is one person to come out and say Israel has to much power and the time has come to remove all of it. Then think forward all it would take is one audience member to stand and cheer and the entire theater would do the same. It would be a standing ovation for several minutes that would then make the news for days and days upon end.
Well, normally I wouldn't watch the Oscars, but in the past I did. During Trump's presidency they said things, nasty things, but then everyone was doing it and I saw that as nothing more then a kind of opportunism, no risk involved. I've been reading about the Jewish lobby and it's scary how they could ruin you. So my guess is that people might say something like they are wishing for peace in the world, but nothing accusatory, or specific and that's as far as they will go. Maybe if everyone did it there might be a chance since the lobby couldn't go about destroying everyone, too obvious. Well, this time I will watch.
As an aside, I find it rich how the #resistance acts like brave freedom fights facing down evil, when they're backed by Hollywood, major corporations, and the FBI, CIA and NSA, to name a few.
Jon Stewart is problematic ...hes vacillated all over the place ...
he did he then retracted most of it
Lol..I also call him nutty the yahoo
No your not going to find public figures willing to stand up to truth and justice, too afraid to be ostracized. and the lobby has instilled public figures with real fear, well those who have a lot to lose should they go against their talking points. It's ugly.
So much for the usa/the West being democracies. Just look at how the usa can mass murder some 2966 in the Twin Towers on 9/11 and the Pentagon, PA and very few care. Then the usa goes on from their preplanned 9/11 false flag to mass murder another 4 to 6 million folks in all their illegal invasions. That is more than the G Holocaust.
Then there is all the other usa Holocausts, the biggest one the American Holocaust which includes canada and all of Latin American nations, STILL going on to this day.
I don't disagree, and have a lot of questions about what happened on 9/11, and wonder whether it was the new Pearl harbor the neocons were waiting for and made happen. I did make a great effort to be part of the anti-war movement which came to naught so If you think I am pro-American in this regard, well that has never been true since I was 7 when those cowboys killed all the Indians who lived on this land first.
You might want to look for Jimmy Dore's take on Jon Stewart.
I don't think you would and those that are Jewish no doubt feel more comfortable in speaking out. What else is knew, always been true.
"Rick Sanchez fired by CNN after making comments about Jews and John Stewart"
See link below
https://www.theguardian.com/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/oct/01/rick-sanchez-cnn-jon-stewart-jews-television-bigot
You might want to find Ritter's article on Gonzalo Lira being an asset for the Ukraine SBU.
Criticism can be used to deflect action. Look at how Joe Biden is criticizing Israel while still shipping tons of bombs.
From the above article. Gee, sounds to me like he's pointing fingers at the ultimate prevaricator Netanyahu.
"Sanchez: I'm telling you that everybody who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart, and a lot of people who run all the other networks are a lot like Stewart. And to imply that somehow they – the people in this country who are Jewish – are an oppressed minority? Yeah."
I guess I'm just trying to say that believing in "everything Stewart" because he mouths a few words you agree with, isn't going to get you to the conclusions you need.
You asked for one example... I gave it.. .
Sure !
Mango: Since you have so much knowledge in this area, I will leave that to you