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ebear's avatar

People's kids were getting drafted and coming home in body bags. I think that's the main difference. Stalin is reported to have said "one death is a tragedy, one million deaths is a statistic." I'm no fan of Stalin, but I think he was right.

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I'm sure that was a factor, but I guess I stll wonder if that's really all it was about or if there was something else.

I tend to think that there has been some kind of sophisticated, militarized demoralization op being conducted at the population level that probably began with the wave of assassinations in the 60's but also involved all kinds of more subtle cultural manipulations. It seems kind of like this all-pervasive thing that encompassed everything from academia to pop culture (rock and/or roll). Some have even done scholarly work suggesting the phenom of serial killers may not even be entirely organic. Don't know if that's true for sure, but I feel like I can say broadly that trauma has been systematically deployed at the population level and used as a weapon against and it seemed to begin around that time and has only steadily increased both in intensity and frequency since. The recent creeply commercial the army put out -- "GHOSTS IN THE MACHINE" -- advertising their 'psyops' division seems almost like an admission of this to me. Criminals can never resist the temptation to boast about their crimes.

It's really gross and awful when you think about it. Fucking sick, disgusting and depraved... ("they" have seemingly dragged us further and further into depravity to serve their "lofty" aspirations of "full-spectrum domination").

But yeah I feel like the vietnam era was a time when a lot of important lessons were lnternalized by the empire that have been carried forward to the present (something Bush I alluded to directly after the 1st gulf war--declaring that "we" had "beat the vietnam syndrome") or something along those lines). I tend to believe also that these 'lessons' learned by the military-intelligence apparatus have a direct relationship to the public's general passivity and apathy today and that if we are to overcome it, this must somehow be addressed and effectively countered by opponents of empire... not only the cumulative effects of past traumas on the cultural zeitgeist, but directly combatting the trauma-based ops being conducted in real time.

Kind of a tall order I suppose. But no one ever said collectively evolving was going to be easy. Some pretty heavy lifting is going to be involved to be sure.

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Nebulus P. McCrotty's avatar

Oh yeah. That's a good point. So much for my exception :(

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