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Contrarian 33's avatar

Another piece to add you your comment, Lynette, is that it appears that New Zealand is also being conned by the likes of Blinken and embracing US involvement in the Pacific, "boots and all". Very little evident in the backgrounds and experience between Albanese in Australia and Hipkins in New Zealand so either the US is succeeding in their use of blackmail and threats, a common occurrence, or both of these Prime Ministers are prepared to sell out their countries.

Both countries enjoy the relationship with China as their major export market so it obviously has nothing to do with common sense and profit.

Let us see how long it takes for the US to establish yet another base, this time in New Zealand. They have enough in Australia already but the need for new bases is well known.

By the way. Australia is not even allowed to know whether the US B-52's have nuclear bombs on board. Not even the PM.

How's that for 21st century servitude

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The Bodysnatchers's avatar

I've always found it odd that, as long as I can remember, every incoming Australian PM immediately declares their undying love of and devotion to US foreign policy. What is that? Fear? Blackmail? Quid pro quo? How does China's record of global hegemony compare to that of the US? China is part of the 'global south' movement that advocates for a multipolar world, not a subservient one.

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Mary Wildfire's avatar

If what's between the US and Australia is a "marriage" as the Economist says, then it's the old-fashioned kind and Australia is the wife. That is, the other partner has all the rights, all the power...although at least the wife got some economic security out of it in those days, whereas Australia is losing economically with this "marriage." It makes no sense at all, leading me to think some combination of bribery and threats is involved in bringing top government officials along. But the public? Sure there's propaganda, but the bits Caitlin has shown us are remarkably crude. Why are Australians falling for the same crap we in the US are...but at least we get something out of it, there is absolutely no upside in this for Australia. We get to perpetuate our primacy a little longer, rah rah. All Australia gets is its face rubbed in its subservient position, and a massive increase in risk from a potential war that is beyond unnecessary. I've complained in the past about Caitlin using terms like "blithering idiot" and "baby brained moron" as unhelpful in insulting those who disagree with you, but...in this case I just can't see how anyone with normal intelligence could fail to see through this propaganda. It occurs to me that freedom for Julian Assange could conceivably lead to his gaining, and releasing, info on how Australian officials were coerced...

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Feral Finster's avatar

I suspect that blackmail and threats are rarely needed.

Dogs *want* to be dogs.

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CarbonCopy's avatar

The billionaire's have their underground bunkers in New Zealand! I wonder how that's gonna fly with them?

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Contrarian 33's avatar

As you know, Carbon Copy.........

Only costs them US 0.59 for every dollar they spend. At that rate you could own the country for a bit more than half its value.

Something like the climate in Australia where at $0.64 and with minerals required by the USA for their nefarious profit-making activities, like electric vehicles, we are likely to experience yet another exploitation in the purchase of mining land.

We''l flog it off. No restrictions there. After all, we are almost the 51st State.

But with a bit of luck, the New Zealand "underground bunkers" owned by exploitative Americans, capitalising on a totally 'out of balance' exchange rate, might be situated on top of an active vulcano. They have a lot of them over there.

Fingers crossed.

The Kiwis in 1984 said no to anything nuclear, including US ship visits.

I wonder how the Americans will find a way around that one?

Well, there are always sanctions. They are experts in that practice.

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