I just don't have any idea who these liberals are you are talking about. We must have been living in alternate universes for that to be your view of liberals as compared to mine. I recall how difficult it was in the 1970's to get anyone, especially liberals to speak out against the occupation. In the 1970s, even I.F. Stone couldn't go that far.
After Angela Davis was fired from the University of California, supporting her was not a popular liberal position. It wasn't the liberals who were protesting on behalf of AIM, or Leonard Peliter. The liberal media completely lied in their coverage about Attica. It was the liberal Jimmy Carter who called Ferdinand Marcos and the Shah of Iran his best friends.
Sorry, Jenny, I don't have research data, these are all historical events I lived through, and saw who spoke up, and how we and they considered themselves. I guess the details are found online.
"We must have been living in alternate universes for that to be your view of liberals as compared to mine."
When I said "no self-respecting liberal in 1970 would be against free speech, for uncritical war, against poor whites while supporting POC/women/gays, etc." that's exactly how I understood it c.1970 at about age 10 from my working-class extended family in northeastern Massachusetts, who called themselves "liberal". Maybe you're taking about the two-faced "limousine liberals" we disparaged.
This dichotomy certainly became clear by the early 90s when Pat Schroeder had the balls to complain about Paula Jones as being the result of "dragging a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park". That was my wake-up call as to what was happening to the party.
I just don't have any idea who these liberals are you are talking about. We must have been living in alternate universes for that to be your view of liberals as compared to mine. I recall how difficult it was in the 1970's to get anyone, especially liberals to speak out against the occupation. In the 1970s, even I.F. Stone couldn't go that far.
After Angela Davis was fired from the University of California, supporting her was not a popular liberal position. It wasn't the liberals who were protesting on behalf of AIM, or Leonard Peliter. The liberal media completely lied in their coverage about Attica. It was the liberal Jimmy Carter who called Ferdinand Marcos and the Shah of Iran his best friends.
I did not know this...
Can you elaborate further?
Sorry, Jenny, I don't have research data, these are all historical events I lived through, and saw who spoke up, and how we and they considered themselves. I guess the details are found online.
"We must have been living in alternate universes for that to be your view of liberals as compared to mine."
When I said "no self-respecting liberal in 1970 would be against free speech, for uncritical war, against poor whites while supporting POC/women/gays, etc." that's exactly how I understood it c.1970 at about age 10 from my working-class extended family in northeastern Massachusetts, who called themselves "liberal". Maybe you're taking about the two-faced "limousine liberals" we disparaged.
This dichotomy certainly became clear by the early 90s when Pat Schroeder had the balls to complain about Paula Jones as being the result of "dragging a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park". That was my wake-up call as to what was happening to the party.