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bill wolfe's avatar

The liberals sold out during the McCarthy era as well. No spine.

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jamenta's avatar

RFK Jr whom you sucked off for - has been particularly horrific.

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Feral Finster's avatar

To be fair, RFK Jr wasn't in politics during the McCarthy Era.

But his Dad was, and RFK was a particularly toadying follower of McCarthy. No, that's not to tar Jr with the sins of his father.

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jamenta's avatar

I know RFK went to town on the mob and Jimmy Hoffa - I even read his book many moons ago, "The Enemy Within".

DId not know he was a McCarthy toady follower. You know your political history well.

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Just sayn's avatar

Joe McCarthy was absolutely correct about the Communist threat to America. He was intentionally destroyed by department of state and other interested parties. Yet today it is plain that much of what once was the Democrat party is communist, or Progressive or Socialist, liberal or whatever term they are hiding behind.

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jamenta's avatar

And Capitalism isn't a threat? Look at the state of the country today. The greatest wealth inequality since the gilded Robber Baron Era, top 1% of Americans now control more wealth than the bottom 90% combined. Most young Americans can no longer afford a new home or upper education. The number one reason for bankruptcy in the country is Medical debts. Our supposed Representative democracy has been completely corrupted by Wallstreet and the obscenely wealthy - Washington DC only responds to the super-wealthy and the monopolistic corporations that they control - that control a rigged non-free market.

Capitalism has drained the once vaunted wealth of the Middle Class of the US - and transferred that wealth to an obscenely relative few crazily rich sociopaths at the top.

Joe McCarthy ruined the lives of many good people. He was a rotten human being and died a lonely drunk.

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Just sayn's avatar

Joe McCarthy was mean and a brute. That does not change the facts that he uncovered many people in government,hollywood and business that were connected politically enough to get away with their subversive agenda. Much of what we see today is do to those evil people. He was destroyed the same way others are, by forces colluding against him because it interfered with their agendas. As for your Rant about Capitalism. The politically connected crony system is not Free market Capitalism. It is a completely controlled system of Fascism ( as Mussolini stated Corporatism) with competition destroyed via political action and legislation. The propaganda to blame capitalism is similar to the argument for democracy. True Free market Capitalism would be a good thing so it is falsely denounced. Whereas democracy is no better than Socialism, communism, or other schemes. It is Mob rule. A good source for information is mises.org they have a super library much of it free. Following the consensus without actually research is a common path to the ECHO chamber. Just what our owners want.

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jamenta's avatar

This is just your sorry attempt to rewrite history to fit a narrative that serves only the obscenely wealthy, and not ordinary Americans.

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Jeremy Dangerhouse's avatar

Regulated externality-free venture capitalism can be helpful; and as it is technologically possible for everyone to be fed, clothed, sheltered, interconnected, educated & doctored, the fact this is not the case is political will or lack thereof.

Then let the ambitious compete for the gravy (of course, they’ll need to compete for labour first. Many folks will be happy eating beans and rice and support their community, but there are certainly those who aspire to a higher standard of living and somewhat morediscretionary income.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Ha. Are you being sarcastic?

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Huh? I guess you are being sarcastic.

McCarthyism (which was the second Red Scare) was a campaign spreading fear of alleged communist and Soviet influence on American institutions.

This is similar thinking behind RussiaGate and the current fear-mongering about Russia.

Just sayn, I have to ask (based on what you just wrote), how well do you understand Communism or even what it is?

Oh, and another point. I'm not sure how aware you are about US politics, but there was a role-reversal in the 2 parties.

Here's a good book on the subject: "Why We're Polarized" by Ezra Klein.

Chapter 1: How Democrats Became Liberals and Republicans became Conservatives

Chapter 2: The Dixieland Dilemma

The above should dispell any myths about the 2 parties and their evolution in terms of ideologies (there are also resources on the web that explain this)

Here's one: The Great Switch: How the Republican & Democratic Parties Flipped Ideologies (https://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties)

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Jeremy Dangerhouse's avatar

Yeeaaah, but…citizens united cemented the One-Party-Two-Faces ratchet politics that prevails in US.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

I think you're confusing a few different concepts here.

One of the political impacts of the "Citizens United vs. FEC" case was the creation of a new era of corporate influence in politics, allowing companies to "buy elections" to promote their financial interests through many strategies ("Super PACS" being a prominent one).

The "One-Party-Two-Faces" problem is independent of "funding". It existed even before the "Citizens United" case. i.e. "Citizens United" is not a causal variable (and not even a relevant variable) in the uni-party representation of American politics.

"One-Party-Two-Faces" is an evolution of US political realities partly due to the growing ties and shared values and goals of the ruling power elite in an effort to preserve a status quo that is increasingly under attack from other socio-economic classes.

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Contrarian 33's avatar

RFK.

A great disappointment was he, sold his soul for a shekel, as I said once before.

We have his cousin here as the Ambassador for the USA in this stand-by 51st US State but never an utterance on anything controversial. Like RFK, she must have succumbed as has the US House and the Congress to the magic of Zionism and all that means.........graft, corruption, bribery, murder, assassinations, inhumanity by the bucketload and now genocide. Normal behaviour..

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With what they did to her father, in Dallas, that should be hard to accept. She now works for Biden. Say no more.

As the Israelis shout from the top of their 30 foot wall protecting them from the Goyim common folk, they pronounce that they are "God's chosen people". This therefore makes one wonder what this 'God' person is all about, to allow them to do what they do.

Sorry. I forgot that 'Israel must be allowed to protect itself.' . Right Biden buddy.?

That's how they do it....genocide with the exceptional USA as their trained lackey.

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jamenta's avatar

I doubt Zion Don will be any better.

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Contrarian 33's avatar

Responded Jamenta but I don't know where it is hiding.

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pretzelattack's avatar

the Kennedys were noteworthy in that respect.

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