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Fran's avatar

I know Reagan, and read those before him weren't as influenced by AIPAC, and now they have incredible control. I really believe this genocide would have never have happened if AIPAC wasn't around.

Russian, bot M who is always abusive toward me, demeans me when ever he can, did it again and I said I hope they take you for swim upstream without your gills. Joking but he sent the message below. I see it as a physical threat. What goes on here. I want to report him to substack, and did report him for other remarks , but it makes no difference.

Mike Fish

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Remove my gills?

That sounds painful.

And, then go swimming?

I’ll die.

That sounds like it has a mean intent to it.

Are you a mean SOB?

Excuse my error.

Daughter of a ……….

Sorry Fran.

You want to keep referencing me in an unfair/unflattering manner, I know where to find you, and what to do.

Don’t know when to quit, do ya?

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nosey parker's avatar

Every president since Eisenhower has been captured by the pro-Israeli lobby, whether it was AIPAC or not. The pro-Zionist machine began in 1917 in the U.S. pushed by Rothschild and Brandeis. Even presidents who wanted to change our policy towards Israel could not because Congress was captured. There is a fairly strong argument that JFK was assassinated by Mossad because he did not want to support Israel. He saw the danger in it which we are seeing today.

Regarding the conversation preceding this, when a person has lost the argument he/she attacks their opponent. Do not engage. Please. It's a waste of time and energy. Stay focused on what really matters.

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Fran's avatar

Yeah I know they had an influence back then and even Brandeis spoke to Balfour to get the Zionists, Palestine, and a lot of arm twisting went on in 1948. They depended on that colonial mindset still in place back then not to mention the prejudice that was felt toward the Muslim world, and the Arabs, which is still prevalent.

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nosey parker's avatar

According to Alison Weir who runs the If Americans Knew dot org web-site and who wrote a book on the Palestinian situation, Brandeis, Rothschild, and a few other powerful and/or rich Western Zionists made it a condition of the U.S.' joining the fight in WWI that they agree to the establishment of a Jewish homeland. This is why the Balfour Declaration was written. That was in 1917--not 1948. European Jews were moving to Palestine and buying land (and sometimes stealing it through terror) long before the Nakba.

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Fran's avatar

I have listened to her and think she's great. I once recommended her to someone and gave her perspective and oh, what an attack.

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nosey parker's avatar

This genocide put that web-site front and center. She wasn't that well known before this. I think direct support of Palestinians is super important, especially when Trump cut off their funds, but supporting people in the U.S. who work towards educating this population is equally important.

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Fran's avatar

I knew her before then. I grew up with a mother who was an anti-Zionist and although I didn't know much of what was going on I felt sorry for the Palestinians back then. God, she was predicting this, but it went beyond this with regional wars then going nuclear. I mean she wan't telling me this, but I would listen to her talk to others who were in agreement, friends. I belonged to a political group, and many in it were Jewish and they were quite critical of Israeli policy toward the Palestinians.

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Mike Fish's avatar

Terrible when YOU selectively edit/select only portions of my commentary directed towards you, in order to mislead.

A real Fran move.

Misstate, mislead, misinform, misinterpret.

Unlike you, I have not ever resorted to using what some would consider corse language, towards you.

I know that you call me a bastard.

I won’t respond to that assertion.

However, my late mother says, fuck you Fran, you fucking, lying cunt.

Mom was married to a sailor.

Maybe you and bot would like to trot.

Dance bitch.

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