It seems you are confused as to _when_ it happens and for _which_ country.
For the US those poor souls are mostly ones seeking citizenship, pursuing a career, or pursuing financing of their subsequent careers. Most of them when they hear "thank you for your service" sneer mentally thinking what a stupid ass the utterer is.
If "railroaded" can be applied to them, then it can be applied to anybody.
You are not suggesting they are grabbed off the street the way they do in Ukraine? If not, then they proceed in the same way one would choose some other career path.
This is a pointless discussion, really. I think that people in North America are too often doing whatever they do in a robotic fashion and not thinking clearly.
Susan T: I think "russian_bot" is more into trolling, trying to win arguments, and picking on technicalities instead of trying to attain a deeper understanding of issues and exchange of ideas. If you can, I suggest limiting your engagement with him in an effort to not further encourage his trolling behavior. (just my opinion)
I think Russian bot is a little weird sometimes and perhaps a bit argumentative, but I don't see him as a bad person and I think that sometimes his senseless arguments do lead to a better understanding. I don't mind senseless arguing as much as I am offended by name calling and the person who likened the genocide in Palestine to women deciding to have abortions.
You have more tolerance and patience than I have. Those are some skills that I will always need to work on continuously. But I do mind senseless arguments (call it a personal flaw of mine if you will). These "senseless" arguements just waste everybody's time when there is so much more important information and ideas to discuss. IMHO, it's not worth it being bogged down with "senseless arguments" and people that espouse such arguements.
Like you said, I find this "name-calling" to be detrimental and antithetical to developing a better understanding. But, people have egos and individual psychologies, so it's not something that we can control. Hence, we go back to "developing more patience and tolerance" as a way to combat such behavior.
Hey, Chang "The Snitch" Chokaski - there are quite a few more people here that you could warn against me. Go ahead, do your duty. Do the right thing for the benefit of those poor folks.
For the right approach, directions, and general encouragement the source of your brown nose - the Obersharführer Che - is of the utmost use. Ask him often, his ego likes polishing as much as his ass.
That is, where the fuck do douchebags like you come from?
The U.S. is full of alienated ghettos where schools have bars on the windows and going to school involve children going through a metal detector. Junkies on the streets, few jobs, no meaningful careers and wages below living wage standards ie eternal penury.
That’s the picture for where the U.S. military trawls through to recruit most of its “volunteers”
That’s the “freedom” the U.S. claims to be offering and those are the coercive conditions you seem to be comparing to Ivy League students flicking through brochures and speaking to a personal career counsellor about which six figures paying job to take.
They go to schools here in Canada and try to attract the poorer kids to the military. The elite would prefer that the economically unprivileged die rather than their own children or they themselves.
You are responding to my comment referencing Ukraine's mobilization which folks there dub "mogilization" - from Russian могила (mogila) which means "grave". You probably saw videos how they do it over there. Are you claiming American ghettos are subject to the same treatment? Can you provide links to the videos?
Of course not. So what are you saying then? That these ghetto inhabitants can't decide just like those Ivy leaguers whether they want to go or not?
The U.S. army is full of poor kids lured there by horrible daily lives . Not the children of Bezos, Musk, Koch, Buffet, Soros, Dimon, Blinken, Nuland, Clinton, Lindsey Graham or Trump or Chuck Schumer or Nancy Peloisi who determine that they live horrible lives.
It seems you are confused as to _when_ it happens and for _which_ country.
For the US those poor souls are mostly ones seeking citizenship, pursuing a career, or pursuing financing of their subsequent careers. Most of them when they hear "thank you for your service" sneer mentally thinking what a stupid ass the utterer is.
I think military personnel are railroaded one way or another and I think it is horrible that they die for whatever reason they are there.
If "railroaded" can be applied to them, then it can be applied to anybody.
You are not suggesting they are grabbed off the street the way they do in Ukraine? If not, then they proceed in the same way one would choose some other career path.
This is a pointless discussion, really. I think that people in North America are too often doing whatever they do in a robotic fashion and not thinking clearly.
Susan T: I think "russian_bot" is more into trolling, trying to win arguments, and picking on technicalities instead of trying to attain a deeper understanding of issues and exchange of ideas. If you can, I suggest limiting your engagement with him in an effort to not further encourage his trolling behavior. (just my opinion)
I think Russian bot is a little weird sometimes and perhaps a bit argumentative, but I don't see him as a bad person and I think that sometimes his senseless arguments do lead to a better understanding. I don't mind senseless arguing as much as I am offended by name calling and the person who likened the genocide in Palestine to women deciding to have abortions.
You have more tolerance and patience than I have. Those are some skills that I will always need to work on continuously. But I do mind senseless arguments (call it a personal flaw of mine if you will). These "senseless" arguements just waste everybody's time when there is so much more important information and ideas to discuss. IMHO, it's not worth it being bogged down with "senseless arguments" and people that espouse such arguements.
Like you said, I find this "name-calling" to be detrimental and antithetical to developing a better understanding. But, people have egos and individual psychologies, so it's not something that we can control. Hence, we go back to "developing more patience and tolerance" as a way to combat such behavior.
Hey, Chang "The Snitch" Chokaski - there are quite a few more people here that you could warn against me. Go ahead, do your duty. Do the right thing for the benefit of those poor folks.
For the right approach, directions, and general encouragement the source of your brown nose - the Obersharführer Che - is of the utmost use. Ask him often, his ego likes polishing as much as his ass.
That is, where the fuck do douchebags like you come from?
Well, I think all three of you have something useful to say, RB.
Makes me sad to see infighting among Caitlin’s patrons. Are we not all here for the same purpose? 🙂
The U.S. is full of alienated ghettos where schools have bars on the windows and going to school involve children going through a metal detector. Junkies on the streets, few jobs, no meaningful careers and wages below living wage standards ie eternal penury.
That’s the picture for where the U.S. military trawls through to recruit most of its “volunteers”
That’s the “freedom” the U.S. claims to be offering and those are the coercive conditions you seem to be comparing to Ivy League students flicking through brochures and speaking to a personal career counsellor about which six figures paying job to take.
They go to schools here in Canada and try to attract the poorer kids to the military. The elite would prefer that the economically unprivileged die rather than their own children or they themselves.
Since the minds of men runneth not to the contrary.
You are responding to my comment referencing Ukraine's mobilization which folks there dub "mogilization" - from Russian могила (mogila) which means "grave". You probably saw videos how they do it over there. Are you claiming American ghettos are subject to the same treatment? Can you provide links to the videos?
Of course not. So what are you saying then? That these ghetto inhabitants can't decide just like those Ivy leaguers whether they want to go or not?
The U.S. army is full of poor kids lured there by horrible daily lives . Not the children of Bezos, Musk, Koch, Buffet, Soros, Dimon, Blinken, Nuland, Clinton, Lindsey Graham or Trump or Chuck Schumer or Nancy Peloisi who determine that they live horrible lives.