First of all, yuou are a persistent mber of a group with an extraordinarily high degree of ethnocentrism - and then you try to loadshare. There are many fantastic human beings out there where one can be proud of to live in the same era on the same planet. I am eg. proud to share time and place with Ms Caitlin Johnstone.
You can stop following Judaism and no longer be Jewish, just like Christians and Muslims can do.
I’m not a religious scholar and maybe judaism wasn’t always like this. It seems to me that if it wasn’t always like this, it’s been co-opted and made into a religion based on supremacist ideology.
No, I never "followed" Judaism. I'm not even considered legally Jewish. There was no way for me to officially leave. I used to say, "I'm not sure I can be Jewish anymore," but eventually I found a way to stay. It's not a religion based on supremacy, but there is a supremacy organized around the religious identity.
None of what you’re saying makes sense. You’re describing it as a street gang, where you can’t leave without being murdered. What I hear you saying is you enjoy the perks of being a so called Jew, but don’t want to be considered a Jew. Not one of you have ever been able to answer this fucking question. What makes you a Jew if you aren’t religious? Name one fucking thing that being a Jew is of benefit to anyone in society, besides a Jew. You can’t say, I’m ashamed of Jews and then say, I’m a Jew and I can’t change that. It’s a bunch of bullshit! I don’t know if you’re brainwashed, or a willing liar. Most Jews have proven to be willing liars! I’m tired this bullshit narrative, where you can’t even tell me what a Jew is!
I can explain it, but I don't know if that will help you be less upset. There seems to be something bothering you that you haven't said directly. I don't really get perks from being Jewish in the US; it's not like being Israeli. I just am Jewish. That's all. I'm not saying that I would be harmed for leaving; I just didn't have anything official enough to cancel. And eventually I decided I didn't have to.
I have observed than money and religion seem to really twist people up so that they will do really inhuman things, like genocide to maintain their money, power and/or belief system. Some of the Christian Zionists I have heard speaking seem to be buried under things that "God" has said and support Israel because, apparently God told them that once the Israelites returned to Israel, they would rise up to heaven. Being reminded that there are also 10 commandments, one of them saying not to kill, doesn't seem to faze them.
There are a couple of different things in your analysis. It's true that religion leads to some horrifying things, but Jewish Zionism was never religious. Christian Zionism is appalling in its own distinct way.
Maybe stick with "human of the Western world".
Fair, but the horrors are at the point where it's hard to tolerate knowing I belong to the same species as these folks.
First of all, yuou are a persistent mber of a group with an extraordinarily high degree of ethnocentrism - and then you try to loadshare. There are many fantastic human beings out there where one can be proud of to live in the same era on the same planet. I am eg. proud to share time and place with Ms Caitlin Johnstone.
I'm definitely not following the first part, but, yes, there are many wonderful humans.
You can stop following Judaism and no longer be Jewish, just like Christians and Muslims can do.
I’m not a religious scholar and maybe judaism wasn’t always like this. It seems to me that if it wasn’t always like this, it’s been co-opted and made into a religion based on supremacist ideology.
No, I never "followed" Judaism. I'm not even considered legally Jewish. There was no way for me to officially leave. I used to say, "I'm not sure I can be Jewish anymore," but eventually I found a way to stay. It's not a religion based on supremacy, but there is a supremacy organized around the religious identity.
None of what you’re saying makes sense. You’re describing it as a street gang, where you can’t leave without being murdered. What I hear you saying is you enjoy the perks of being a so called Jew, but don’t want to be considered a Jew. Not one of you have ever been able to answer this fucking question. What makes you a Jew if you aren’t religious? Name one fucking thing that being a Jew is of benefit to anyone in society, besides a Jew. You can’t say, I’m ashamed of Jews and then say, I’m a Jew and I can’t change that. It’s a bunch of bullshit! I don’t know if you’re brainwashed, or a willing liar. Most Jews have proven to be willing liars! I’m tired this bullshit narrative, where you can’t even tell me what a Jew is!
I can explain it, but I don't know if that will help you be less upset. There seems to be something bothering you that you haven't said directly. I don't really get perks from being Jewish in the US; it's not like being Israeli. I just am Jewish. That's all. I'm not saying that I would be harmed for leaving; I just didn't have anything official enough to cancel. And eventually I decided I didn't have to.
I have observed than money and religion seem to really twist people up so that they will do really inhuman things, like genocide to maintain their money, power and/or belief system. Some of the Christian Zionists I have heard speaking seem to be buried under things that "God" has said and support Israel because, apparently God told them that once the Israelites returned to Israel, they would rise up to heaven. Being reminded that there are also 10 commandments, one of them saying not to kill, doesn't seem to faze them.
There are a couple of different things in your analysis. It's true that religion leads to some horrifying things, but Jewish Zionism was never religious. Christian Zionism is appalling in its own distinct way.