Please clarify, this is the first I've heard the practice or advocacy of controlled selective breeding of human populations (as by sterilization) to improve the populations' genetic composition being raised in this context.
Deltawhiskylima: IF you do not understand I suggest you look up what Israelis are doing in their torture camps. Not too much difference between ths and Mengle!
Unfortunately, words' meanings change over time, because of their use by people that don't know the original meanings of the words and just use the words mindlessly.
Yes, I've seen that with the word genocide among others.
You give Kevin too much credit. I don't think the meaning has changed at all. I think Kevin was trying to be profound, pointed, and witty, and he used a word for which he didn't know the meaning.
Yes, Kevin apparently didn't know the meaning of the word eugenics. The word eugenics as it is used in his comment results in a sentence that doesn't make sense.
Oh wait. I read Kevin again, he isn't implying that eugenics is being committed, he's arguing that if you join the military you should be sterilized, hence a "poster child for eugenics."
Eugenics, the selection of desired heritable characteristics in order to improve future generations, typically in reference to humans - exactly as practised by the apartheid Israeli regime - i.e. seeking to prevent intermarriage which they do by extreme familial and cultural pressure to marry within the faith, and especially not marry Arabs (there are societies and pressure groups who promote that specific aim), the desire that gentiles who do marry Jews should convert, the declaration that their state gives preferential treatment to Jews, the 'right of return' is only open to people who can prove Jewish ancestry, and specifically against Arabs. All these things point to the wish to preserve racial purity on the grounds that it will provide 'better' humans. Genocide seems to me to be the ultimate way of assuring selective breeding - i.e. in this case, preventing the breeding of Palestinians by killing them all.
It seems that what you describe as eugenics, does not actually involve selection of heritable characteristics, but rather non-heritable traits - i.e., faith (pressure to marry within the faith). None of the examples you cite point to "racial purity," but rather to cultural purity. Using the word eugenics though certainly makes it easier manipulate public opinion.
Please clarify, this is the first I've heard the practice or advocacy of controlled selective breeding of human populations (as by sterilization) to improve the populations' genetic composition being raised in this context.
Deltawhiskylima: IF you do not understand I suggest you look up what Israelis are doing in their torture camps. Not too much difference between ths and Mengle!
I did some research and didn't find anything about selective breeding or sterilization. Can you point me to the articles about eugenics?
Unfortunately, words' meanings change over time, because of their use by people that don't know the original meanings of the words and just use the words mindlessly.
Yes, I've seen that with the word genocide among others.
You give Kevin too much credit. I don't think the meaning has changed at all. I think Kevin was trying to be profound, pointed, and witty, and he used a word for which he didn't know the meaning.
Yes, Kevin apparently didn't know the meaning of the word eugenics. The word eugenics as it is used in his comment results in a sentence that doesn't make sense.
Oh wait. I read Kevin again, he isn't implying that eugenics is being committed, he's arguing that if you join the military you should be sterilized, hence a "poster child for eugenics."
Oops.
Yes; you make sense with that interpretation.
I'm so relieved that the Israelis aren't engaging in eugenics.
Eugenics, the selection of desired heritable characteristics in order to improve future generations, typically in reference to humans - exactly as practised by the apartheid Israeli regime - i.e. seeking to prevent intermarriage which they do by extreme familial and cultural pressure to marry within the faith, and especially not marry Arabs (there are societies and pressure groups who promote that specific aim), the desire that gentiles who do marry Jews should convert, the declaration that their state gives preferential treatment to Jews, the 'right of return' is only open to people who can prove Jewish ancestry, and specifically against Arabs. All these things point to the wish to preserve racial purity on the grounds that it will provide 'better' humans. Genocide seems to me to be the ultimate way of assuring selective breeding - i.e. in this case, preventing the breeding of Palestinians by killing them all.
It seems that what you describe as eugenics, does not actually involve selection of heritable characteristics, but rather non-heritable traits - i.e., faith (pressure to marry within the faith). None of the examples you cite point to "racial purity," but rather to cultural purity. Using the word eugenics though certainly makes it easier manipulate public opinion.