Surprising they booed him. Get rid of government and guess who ends up running the country? Billionaires like Trump. Oh I forgot, everybody will act cooperatively, including the Billionaires. And Unicorns also will lay down with the lambs and lions.
Come on, You know the score. Zionist billionaires are already calling the shots. As in any other group of bent humans (we're all bent). there are reasonable free-speech, anti-war Libs and unreasonable let-money-talk-louder idiots for whom I have only disdain. But I refuse to reject the first group because they think less [ultra-corrupt, fumbling, unconnected to voters] government might be a good thing.
It's comfortable believing Libertarians haven't played a key role in corrupting the US government isn't it? With the last four decades of anti-government talk by so-called Libertarians - supporting extreme right-wing anti-tax legislation, deregulation legislation, loosening all kinds of ethical rules meant to constrain governmental corruption. The libertarians were in lockstep with the Koch brothers and all the other billionaires wanting to corrupt the US government.
And guess what - the US government now is entirely corrupted, the US Constitution doesn't mean jack shit anymore. The country is run by a bunch of genocidal, lawless crooks who don't give a flying fuck about ordinary Americans or the state of the public good. Libertarians played a key role in this corruption.
One doesn't have to be Einstein to figure this shit out. I'm just some retired yokel living in Idaho - and I figured it out.
Every movement is susceptible to corruption. Even libertarians, who tend to believe in limited government or limiting the aggregation of power, can be full of bad actors using this mantra of ‘reducing government’ just to remove regulatory constraints so they can pursue their own version of aggregation of power (unrestrained capitalism). The key is to prevent aggregation of too much power in all forms, otherwise its ’meet the new boss…same as the old boss’
Completely agree. But the Libertarians have been especially egregious in corrupting the US government and are among the biggest hypocrites regarding what they pretend to stand for. The Koch Brothers were a scourge upon the American public - were the epitome of Elite one percenters waging war on workers and the economic freedoms of the majority of Americans. And they did it by funding many secret organizations.
Scott Walker was a corrupt goon - was in constant assault mode on working poor Americans, opposed any kind of mass transportation, was anti-abortion, was an opponent of same-sex marriage, gave huge tax breaks to corporations while eviscerating government programs, rejected even the bullshit Health Care Exchange program for Wisconsin. Walker was corrupt as the day was long when he was governor - and the LIBERTARIAN Koch brothers funded his ass every which way from SUNDAY.
Yeah Ron Paul has been great for the top 1%. Trillions of tax breaks for them - but don't worry, it's going to trickle down soon.
And yeah, let's eliminate FEMA as well. Great idea. You're on your own folks - if a tornado hits. Who needs civilization anyway? Let's all live like apes again - just keep the filthy rich happy.
okay now give me a listing of the who else -- other than Libertarians played such a role. A list that woud include some "liberal" NGOs with good reps. Let's not be naive. Corruption of this impoverished excuse for a government has been a collective affair with many players of all stripes, with the biggest player always big $$$.
Ah yes, Jamenta reaches her frustration point, tells other discussant to "take a hike. In the immortal words of Mussolini. Cazzo a te.Va fa in culo. OK? Discussion ended. It's almost always time wasted where you're concerned.
Y'know, I'd be lying if I were to say that there haven't been times when the extent of corruption in western governments have so disheartened me that I thought anarchy might be preferable to endless lying for the benefit of big donors. I don't want anarchy, but I hate what we've got. Mea culpa!
Actually, Anarchism isn't "anarchy", bizarrely. It's simply a synonym for Democracy. It means "No inherited power or privileges", which is obviously incredibly radical. For those currently with inherited power and privileges, lol. For everyone else, its common-sense.
Granted, you're correct. But starting with the "you don't know" is not exactly a good foundation for exchange of ideas, and I'm frankly fucking tired of it. Why would you think -- from any of my other remarks -- that I have any attachment to rich entitled Libertarians, or rich entitled Republicans, or rich Zionist Democrats posing as social warriors. All equivalent fecal matter to me. I'm a biologist with 45 yrs of immunology expertise. So ---if I tell you that in my informed opinion based on fundamental cellular biology that RFK Jr. was largely correct about mRNA COVID vaccines, does that mean I support his Zionist horseshit? Of course not. Likewise, if my close Libertarian friend back east and I agree that the Bill of Rights is sacrosanct, I also disagree strongly with her opinion on the US military and several other issues; and I tell her so. I see far too much desire in this forum and elsewhere to put people into singular labeled categories from which they're not allowed to cross-opine with other philosophical/political thought streams. Sorry, just not where I am. And in the face of a declining empire that's pressuring all of us bigtime, I think finding avenues of commonality of resistance is probably necessary. Because resistance to any standard pabulum emerging from a lying corrupt moribund institution is, at this juncture, a critical necessity. Again, if that makes me seem inconsistent, I apologize. But that really is a value judgment on the part of an observer if one really thinks about it.
I have considered myself an anarchist for about 40 years. As far as I am concerned, anarchy involves tight organization from the bottom up. It is a dream right now. I don't think there is a strict template for anarchy. The main ideas are justice and freedom for all. There are various ideas about how it could work. It is not that people who consider themselves anarchists don't want anyone telling them how to live, it is that people need to be included in making decisions and not in the way that we do now with voting that gives us no say at all. One idea I have heard is that there should be limits on how long any one group can be in a primary decision making position. If you are interested in anarchy, you would do better to read about it rather than just accepting heresay.
Here is the real heart of the problem! This is how fucked up the people really are! Instead of oh look we all have the same ENEMY! They are busy fighting for the enemy of us all!
No, it is not "really angry people" etc. It is about people looking for a better way to live. There is a lot written about anarchy. If you are interested, you could read about it. Peter Kropotkin. Enrico Maletesta, George Woodcock, Emma Goldman
"Get rid of government and guess who ends up running the country?"
Exactly. I don't know what kind of world serious libertarians live on, but about length and breadth of human nature, it's as delusional as that of communists. I've tried to explain that without carefully enforced structure -- including that necessary to enforce the very free markets you salivate over -- you end up with warlords, whether it's the Mad Max kind always operating in several parts of the world, or simply that of banksters et al that ebbs and flows in the West.
Right? Who can't see that? Look, sure a corrupt government does no one any good, it does immeasurable harm to a country. But government itself, Representative government that moves a civilization forward is essential. You just can't get around it. Without some kind of laws and regulations - you might as well live like savages.
Well, please tell me how, after more than a century of dozens of attempts in its name, it is (a) to be properly implemented and (b) to work for all.
I believe only in perpetually-evolving hybrid systems, because only those take into account all known, and emerging known, aspects of human nature. IMO Marxism is a fatal perversion of the original Leftism, in which democracy was undermined in support of an (admittedly brilliant) insights of certain aspects of economic activity, but also along with a huge pile of totalitarian claims and demands, as if they were not only positive, but normative, economics as "settled science". It was a call to create intramural armies, not solve societal problems. In my experience, Marxist pretension on these things is just breathtaking.
China is communist only in name (they're completely two-faced about it, copying only the totalitarianism part), and Russia hasn't been communist since 1991.
I would say we are already at this stage as we no longer have an elected government. We have our enemy the Terrorist State of Israel in control of our government and they (especially Netanyahu!) have clearly stated their hatred for the American people and their intent to destroy this country. They are succeeding in spades at this endeavour!
My cousin is a libertarian and he mistakenly thought that meant he is an anarchist because he does not believe in government. Anarchy would have government, but from the bottom up. Libertarians just want to get rid of the government regulations that prevent them from making as much money as they want.
Libertarians argue for less government, but it always translates into giving more power and money to the already obscenely rich 1% - which many Libertarians worship as the "job creators" and "entrepreneur winners". Libertarianism is social Darwinism on steroids.
I'm sure there might be a few reasonable Libertarians alive, but they are few and far between. Most of the one's I have known in the last four decades bowed at the altar of the Koch Brothers. And we all know the record of the Koch Network - and the corruption involved.
The whole plan from the start (of the Elite Wallstreet One Percenters to Wage War on the Poor) was to starve the US government - cut taxes, create huge debts (starting with Reagan) and then get Americans to hate the US government because it was doing nothing for them (although quite capable of feeding trillions into the MIC and WALLSTREET) - and to blame government itself as the problem. Meanwhile the billionaires like the Kochs who were the ones who corrupted the government - were all about deregulation and getting rid of any kind of reasonable taxes on the 1% obscenely wealthy. And well, we're all suppose to think of the Kochs as American Libertarian HEROES. Libertarian heroes my ass. They sucked the life blood out of American society, and the result is the greatest wealth TRANSFER and wealth INEQUALITY in the US not seen since the Robber Baron gilded age. Most ordinary Americans can't even afford a mortgage on a house and can't even afford to see a bloody doctor any more, let alone pay for a $100,000 truck. Try paying for a University education for your kid these days. Well - if you have more money than God and are one of the lucky few top 1% obscenely wealthy - Universities are no problem. But the rest of ordinary working American serfs- that haven't had an effective pay raise since the 1970s - you can forget the American dream - because you'd have to be asleep to believe it.
I agree with everything you say. I find it sad that so many people, including some libertarians, think that anarchy means no government. Even sadder when libertarians consider themselves to be anarchists. Sad for me, anyway. I am so sick of wealth being equated with success. Really, extreme wealth is just piggishness. Not success at all. I was listening to a program about the spread of wild pigs in the US and now in Canada. They are really difficult to deal with. They are manipulative, smart, greedy and they reproduce at an alarming rate. Except for the reproduction part (and who even knows about that) wild pigs could be a prototype for libertarians. Maybe a bit hard on the wild pigs, but there it is.
Yeah for me - the class warfare is pretty much at the foundation of the rot within the US, and the level of wealth inequality now is worst than it has ever been historically.
The lawless pursuit of greed and the philosophy that an entire society can be healthy based on self-serving greed alone - has now, in my opinion led to its denouement. Out-of-control Militarism. All three branches of the US government corrupted by the fat 1% pigs that still want to cut taxes even more. RECORD I mean RECORD profits by corporations and Wallstreet even as ordinary Americans have to cut back on what they eat, and how often they fill their gas tanks up. It's sickening to live through the economic destruction of this country, and have to watch a BRAIN DEAD American president run for office again while another billionaire rich fuck who is just as gung-ho on mass murder in GAZA - as the rest of the corrupt goons in DC are - it's sickening to have to listen to the crass intellectual bullshit that government is the problem, that American workers are lazy - and that if you just cut taxes even more - it will all trickle down. I've been listening to this bullshit now all my life - along with how democratic and freedom loving the Israelis are. It's all 24/7 nonstop propaganda led by the most evil empire ever to exist on this planet.
That's funny about the lambs and lions, because if it wasn't for some people, they really would do just, back in the days when butterflies and the like still existed, before some people started killing them off just because they were to pretty for us to look at, they'd stop and rest on top of a blade of grass next to you if you would choose to lay down in the grass to rest. So, that's something for someone to hate? That's the sort of excuse that insanity makes. Like this week I discovered that I was supposed to be a victim of a d
Indeed - under right-wing Presidents MOSTLY. Apparently the runaway "budget" is great for making sure they pacify their base. But among the biggest deficit spenders starting with Reagan were on the right. The military budget is whacko. And given how poorly the NATO proxy war in Ukraine has gone - all the trillions spent on the US military looks like it was more a money laundering scheme for the Big Defense Contractors - from Boeing to Lockheed Martin to Raytheon - they made a shit ton of money off of military hardware that might last a week in a real war. Outside of nuclear weapons - the Russians would wipe the floor with any American force that attempted to fight it - the technology and now out-of-date military doctrines would make American forces easy game. Why? Because it was all about the money and profits. It was never actually about war or "defense".
For Republicans - the budget was just as much a propaganda tool as Wokeness has been for the Democrats. But when it comes to the real donor important issues regarding MONEY - both parties are two cheeks of the same backside.
Surprising they booed him. Get rid of government and guess who ends up running the country? Billionaires like Trump. Oh I forgot, everybody will act cooperatively, including the Billionaires. And Unicorns also will lay down with the lambs and lions.
Come on, You know the score. Zionist billionaires are already calling the shots. As in any other group of bent humans (we're all bent). there are reasonable free-speech, anti-war Libs and unreasonable let-money-talk-louder idiots for whom I have only disdain. But I refuse to reject the first group because they think less [ultra-corrupt, fumbling, unconnected to voters] government might be a good thing.
It's comfortable believing Libertarians haven't played a key role in corrupting the US government isn't it? With the last four decades of anti-government talk by so-called Libertarians - supporting extreme right-wing anti-tax legislation, deregulation legislation, loosening all kinds of ethical rules meant to constrain governmental corruption. The libertarians were in lockstep with the Koch brothers and all the other billionaires wanting to corrupt the US government.
And guess what - the US government now is entirely corrupted, the US Constitution doesn't mean jack shit anymore. The country is run by a bunch of genocidal, lawless crooks who don't give a flying fuck about ordinary Americans or the state of the public good. Libertarians played a key role in this corruption.
One doesn't have to be Einstein to figure this shit out. I'm just some retired yokel living in Idaho - and I figured it out.
Every movement is susceptible to corruption. Even libertarians, who tend to believe in limited government or limiting the aggregation of power, can be full of bad actors using this mantra of ‘reducing government’ just to remove regulatory constraints so they can pursue their own version of aggregation of power (unrestrained capitalism). The key is to prevent aggregation of too much power in all forms, otherwise its ’meet the new boss…same as the old boss’
Completely agree. But the Libertarians have been especially egregious in corrupting the US government and are among the biggest hypocrites regarding what they pretend to stand for. The Koch Brothers were a scourge upon the American public - were the epitome of Elite one percenters waging war on workers and the economic freedoms of the majority of Americans. And they did it by funding many secret organizations.
Scott Walker was a corrupt goon - was in constant assault mode on working poor Americans, opposed any kind of mass transportation, was anti-abortion, was an opponent of same-sex marriage, gave huge tax breaks to corporations while eviscerating government programs, rejected even the bullshit Health Care Exchange program for Wisconsin. Walker was corrupt as the day was long when he was governor - and the LIBERTARIAN Koch brothers funded his ass every which way from SUNDAY.
I would define the Koch’s as garden variety crony capitalists. I might suggest that Ron Paul is your more traditional libertarian
Yeah Ron Paul has been great for the top 1%. Trillions of tax breaks for them - but don't worry, it's going to trickle down soon.
And yeah, let's eliminate FEMA as well. Great idea. You're on your own folks - if a tornado hits. Who needs civilization anyway? Let's all live like apes again - just keep the filthy rich happy.
okay now give me a listing of the who else -- other than Libertarians played such a role. A list that woud include some "liberal" NGOs with good reps. Let's not be naive. Corruption of this impoverished excuse for a government has been a collective affair with many players of all stripes, with the biggest player always big $$$.
Yes, and libertarians are big $$$
Yes, one of many sources thereof.
One of the many things about Libertarianism is they do not give a shit about the people ONLY themselves.
That's pretty much what it boils down to Jenny.
Apparently you've never heard of the Koch brothers. Take a hike.
Ah yes, Jamenta reaches her frustration point, tells other discussant to "take a hike. In the immortal words of Mussolini. Cazzo a te.Va fa in culo. OK? Discussion ended. It's almost always time wasted where you're concerned.
I thought Dementa was a boy!
Anyone who blows right past the Koch brothers is not worth my time.
I am not 'bent' nor is my mouth 'stitched up' from speaking the truth. How can you have a good Govt. when your 'olde worlde constitution is ....dead.
Then what you actually want is Anarchists.
Y'know, I'd be lying if I were to say that there haven't been times when the extent of corruption in western governments have so disheartened me that I thought anarchy might be preferable to endless lying for the benefit of big donors. I don't want anarchy, but I hate what we've got. Mea culpa!
Actually, Anarchism isn't "anarchy", bizarrely. It's simply a synonym for Democracy. It means "No inherited power or privileges", which is obviously incredibly radical. For those currently with inherited power and privileges, lol. For everyone else, its common-sense.
you don't know what anarchy is. Anarchy actually means government but from the bottom up. The rich, entitled libertarians would have to go.
Granted, you're correct. But starting with the "you don't know" is not exactly a good foundation for exchange of ideas, and I'm frankly fucking tired of it. Why would you think -- from any of my other remarks -- that I have any attachment to rich entitled Libertarians, or rich entitled Republicans, or rich Zionist Democrats posing as social warriors. All equivalent fecal matter to me. I'm a biologist with 45 yrs of immunology expertise. So ---if I tell you that in my informed opinion based on fundamental cellular biology that RFK Jr. was largely correct about mRNA COVID vaccines, does that mean I support his Zionist horseshit? Of course not. Likewise, if my close Libertarian friend back east and I agree that the Bill of Rights is sacrosanct, I also disagree strongly with her opinion on the US military and several other issues; and I tell her so. I see far too much desire in this forum and elsewhere to put people into singular labeled categories from which they're not allowed to cross-opine with other philosophical/political thought streams. Sorry, just not where I am. And in the face of a declining empire that's pressuring all of us bigtime, I think finding avenues of commonality of resistance is probably necessary. Because resistance to any standard pabulum emerging from a lying corrupt moribund institution is, at this juncture, a critical necessity. Again, if that makes me seem inconsistent, I apologize. But that really is a value judgment on the part of an observer if one really thinks about it.
what is it that inspired you to call yourself a libertarian?
I have considered myself an anarchist for about 40 years. As far as I am concerned, anarchy involves tight organization from the bottom up. It is a dream right now. I don't think there is a strict template for anarchy. The main ideas are justice and freedom for all. There are various ideas about how it could work. It is not that people who consider themselves anarchists don't want anyone telling them how to live, it is that people need to be included in making decisions and not in the way that we do now with voting that gives us no say at all. One idea I have heard is that there should be limits on how long any one group can be in a primary decision making position. If you are interested in anarchy, you would do better to read about it rather than just accepting heresay.
Gnuneo. Anarchist are happening and there is NOTHING you can do to stop them.
USA decided 'guns' were OK for most people who have them in their homes.
I have been in a Civil War and I can tell you: Neighbours will turn against neighbours (probably from some old dispute).
Family members will be separated and abused or shot.
It really does not take long for a society (with guns) to start killing.
Unfortunately the mindless killing will be amongst citizens and NOT the people who need killing.
USA is a naive society/ill-educated and incapable of making moral decisions.
Here is the real heart of the problem! This is how fucked up the people really are! Instead of oh look we all have the same ENEMY! They are busy fighting for the enemy of us all!
No, it is not "really angry people" etc. It is about people looking for a better way to live. There is a lot written about anarchy. If you are interested, you could read about it. Peter Kropotkin. Enrico Maletesta, George Woodcock, Emma Goldman
"Get rid of government and guess who ends up running the country?"
Exactly. I don't know what kind of world serious libertarians live on, but about length and breadth of human nature, it's as delusional as that of communists. I've tried to explain that without carefully enforced structure -- including that necessary to enforce the very free markets you salivate over -- you end up with warlords, whether it's the Mad Max kind always operating in several parts of the world, or simply that of banksters et al that ebbs and flows in the West.
Right? Who can't see that? Look, sure a corrupt government does no one any good, it does immeasurable harm to a country. But government itself, Representative government that moves a civilization forward is essential. You just can't get around it. Without some kind of laws and regulations - you might as well live like savages.
Yes no laws. No rules. Let's all be drunk'n teenagers again! PARTY!!
Communism isn't delusional.
Well, please tell me how, after more than a century of dozens of attempts in its name, it is (a) to be properly implemented and (b) to work for all.
I believe only in perpetually-evolving hybrid systems, because only those take into account all known, and emerging known, aspects of human nature. IMO Marxism is a fatal perversion of the original Leftism, in which democracy was undermined in support of an (admittedly brilliant) insights of certain aspects of economic activity, but also along with a huge pile of totalitarian claims and demands, as if they were not only positive, but normative, economics as "settled science". It was a call to create intramural armies, not solve societal problems. In my experience, Marxist pretension on these things is just breathtaking.
Well there is China and Russia but they are a bit less communist than before.
Both seem to be doing ok!
China is communist only in name (they're completely two-faced about it, copying only the totalitarianism part), and Russia hasn't been communist since 1991.
Cuba + Vietnam.
I would say we are already at this stage as we no longer have an elected government. We have our enemy the Terrorist State of Israel in control of our government and they (especially Netanyahu!) have clearly stated their hatred for the American people and their intent to destroy this country. They are succeeding in spades at this endeavour!
Sad, but probably very true
My cousin is a libertarian and he mistakenly thought that meant he is an anarchist because he does not believe in government. Anarchy would have government, but from the bottom up. Libertarians just want to get rid of the government regulations that prevent them from making as much money as they want.
Libertarians argue for less government, but it always translates into giving more power and money to the already obscenely rich 1% - which many Libertarians worship as the "job creators" and "entrepreneur winners". Libertarianism is social Darwinism on steroids.
I'm sure there might be a few reasonable Libertarians alive, but they are few and far between. Most of the one's I have known in the last four decades bowed at the altar of the Koch Brothers. And we all know the record of the Koch Network - and the corruption involved.
The whole plan from the start (of the Elite Wallstreet One Percenters to Wage War on the Poor) was to starve the US government - cut taxes, create huge debts (starting with Reagan) and then get Americans to hate the US government because it was doing nothing for them (although quite capable of feeding trillions into the MIC and WALLSTREET) - and to blame government itself as the problem. Meanwhile the billionaires like the Kochs who were the ones who corrupted the government - were all about deregulation and getting rid of any kind of reasonable taxes on the 1% obscenely wealthy. And well, we're all suppose to think of the Kochs as American Libertarian HEROES. Libertarian heroes my ass. They sucked the life blood out of American society, and the result is the greatest wealth TRANSFER and wealth INEQUALITY in the US not seen since the Robber Baron gilded age. Most ordinary Americans can't even afford a mortgage on a house and can't even afford to see a bloody doctor any more, let alone pay for a $100,000 truck. Try paying for a University education for your kid these days. Well - if you have more money than God and are one of the lucky few top 1% obscenely wealthy - Universities are no problem. But the rest of ordinary working American serfs- that haven't had an effective pay raise since the 1970s - you can forget the American dream - because you'd have to be asleep to believe it.
I agree with everything you say. I find it sad that so many people, including some libertarians, think that anarchy means no government. Even sadder when libertarians consider themselves to be anarchists. Sad for me, anyway. I am so sick of wealth being equated with success. Really, extreme wealth is just piggishness. Not success at all. I was listening to a program about the spread of wild pigs in the US and now in Canada. They are really difficult to deal with. They are manipulative, smart, greedy and they reproduce at an alarming rate. Except for the reproduction part (and who even knows about that) wild pigs could be a prototype for libertarians. Maybe a bit hard on the wild pigs, but there it is.
Yeah for me - the class warfare is pretty much at the foundation of the rot within the US, and the level of wealth inequality now is worst than it has ever been historically.
The lawless pursuit of greed and the philosophy that an entire society can be healthy based on self-serving greed alone - has now, in my opinion led to its denouement. Out-of-control Militarism. All three branches of the US government corrupted by the fat 1% pigs that still want to cut taxes even more. RECORD I mean RECORD profits by corporations and Wallstreet even as ordinary Americans have to cut back on what they eat, and how often they fill their gas tanks up. It's sickening to live through the economic destruction of this country, and have to watch a BRAIN DEAD American president run for office again while another billionaire rich fuck who is just as gung-ho on mass murder in GAZA - as the rest of the corrupt goons in DC are - it's sickening to have to listen to the crass intellectual bullshit that government is the problem, that American workers are lazy - and that if you just cut taxes even more - it will all trickle down. I've been listening to this bullshit now all my life - along with how democratic and freedom loving the Israelis are. It's all 24/7 nonstop propaganda led by the most evil empire ever to exist on this planet.
The American Dream Isn't Dead... You Just Can't Afford It: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeCbejSGEXU
That's funny about the lambs and lions, because if it wasn't for some people, they really would do just, back in the days when butterflies and the like still existed, before some people started killing them off just because they were to pretty for us to look at, they'd stop and rest on top of a blade of grass next to you if you would choose to lay down in the grass to rest. So, that's something for someone to hate? That's the sort of excuse that insanity makes. Like this week I discovered that I was supposed to be a victim of a d
That's too funny
I dunno, budget deficits were ballooning under Trump, even before COVID.
Indeed - under right-wing Presidents MOSTLY. Apparently the runaway "budget" is great for making sure they pacify their base. But among the biggest deficit spenders starting with Reagan were on the right. The military budget is whacko. And given how poorly the NATO proxy war in Ukraine has gone - all the trillions spent on the US military looks like it was more a money laundering scheme for the Big Defense Contractors - from Boeing to Lockheed Martin to Raytheon - they made a shit ton of money off of military hardware that might last a week in a real war. Outside of nuclear weapons - the Russians would wipe the floor with any American force that attempted to fight it - the technology and now out-of-date military doctrines would make American forces easy game. Why? Because it was all about the money and profits. It was never actually about war or "defense".
For Republicans - the budget was just as much a propaganda tool as Wokeness has been for the Democrats. But when it comes to the real donor important issues regarding MONEY - both parties are two cheeks of the same backside.