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Jackie's avatar

It was all rigged, top to bottom, even the election and so much more... You believe the voting just stopped in the middle of the night? Hilarious. That all kinds of 'mail-in' voters were just found? You believe the leaked narrative one week ahead of the AZ audit canvass saying, "Biden won!" wasn't propaganda from the legacy media/CIA/as instructed by Vanguard Etc., when they knew what the canvass really found? Tell me you believe the results from all the foreign servers etc. #LMAO! Trump had to Go! He was a neophyte in the Swamp, the most honest person there in reality. He did one BIG HUGE thing however, he called them out to their smarmy faces: FAKE NEWS! He does not get near enough credit for that..., he used their own networks to do it too! How I loved that. Genius! That alone was worth his presidency! And now we have Biden as Vanguard/BlackRock's new Puppet. So much better...#LMAO sadly again! They are back in power, but they have taken a lot of incoming...and are going to get some more it looks like.

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Diamond Boy's avatar

OK that’s it Jackie speaks for me. I find it amazing that people who recognize this illiberal moment for what it is )like Riff and Caitlin) can’t see past Trumps personal foibles. Mr. Trump gamed the system and stole the Oval Office. This is the system of elites that you decry and he beat it. What gives? Don’t you understand that Trump was a victory for people who want to reject global hegemonic imperial power. Trump thought the establishment were hypocrites and said it every chance he had. As Jackie says - genius. Insofar as Trump was a liar it was out of incompetence and combativeness. The elite are so much smoother and refined in there lies - I believe that is Caitlin’s enduring analysis and constant theme.

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Riff McClavin's avatar

When I look at Trump in office, RJF, I see no sweeping away of the Deep State; no pause in their hegemonic grip.

Trump ran a great outsider campaign during a change election and sometimes said the right things. Drain the swamp, yada, yada,yada. But what did he actually do with his Golden Moment? He seemed to make the Deep State pretty darned happy: he tortured Assange; he propped up Israel and the Saudis; he sanctioned Russia, Iran, and Venezuela; he let dull tools like Pompeo and Bolton have their way; he funneled trillions of dollars to Wall Street; he passed a historic, bloated military budget; he stirred up trouble with China; he called whistleblowers traitors. Some champion of the people you got yourself there.

Oh, but called out the NYT and Jim Acosta as fake news. Whooptie-do. And THIS is your big bring-down-American-hegemonic-power hero? Sorry, I just don't get it. This sounds a lot like the same old QAnon BS trying to make Trump into some noble icon that he sadly was not.

Scratch Trump and policy-wise you pretty much reveal a run-of-the-mill shitty republican president; you and Jackie will no doubt continue to believe otherwise.

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Jackie's avatar

You bet I will continue to believe 'otherwise' Riff. You Tell on yourself...

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Diamond Boy's avatar

Ok the other side and well enunciated.

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Jackie's avatar

Not really, Riff may as well be CNN. He's here for a reason and it's not Freedom, it's more of the same.

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Riff McClavin's avatar

Aside from such shenanigans, Trump ran a shitty re-election campaign and during his tenure surrounded himself with some shitty swamp people, one assumes willingly (Bolton, Pompeo, Addelson come to mind). There is no "They" who are responsible for that and Trump fanboys (or gals) need to own that. Your unwillingness to see this constitutes a weakness in your arguments as glaring as those Obamaphiles who still maintain that his greatness was done in by those mean republicans.

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Jackie's avatar

#LMAO! Talk about 'shitty' this and 'shitty' that...he was no Pedo though and he? He was after them. He was after the Fake News! I'm sure that was a real bad thing...terrible, shitty really. Pile it on Riff, it just makes me happier, huge Tell.

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