My take is that the establishment indeed threw everything they had against him; he didn't help himself by running a pretty dismal re-election campaign and surrounding himself with some pretty dismal swamp creatures.
It was all rigged, top to bottom, even the election and so much more... You believe the voting just stopped in the middle of the night? Hilarious. That all kinds of 'mail-in' voters were just found? You believe the leaked narrative one week ahead of the AZ audit canvass saying, "Biden won!" wasn't propaganda from the legacy media/CIA/as instructed by Vanguard Etc., when they knew what the canvass really found? Tell me you believe the results from all the foreign servers etc. #LMAO! Trump had to Go! He was a neophyte in the Swamp, the most honest person there in reality. He did one BIG HUGE thing however, he called them out to their smarmy faces: FAKE NEWS! He does not get near enough credit for that..., he used their own networks to do it too! How I loved that. Genius! That alone was worth his presidency! And now we have Biden as Vanguard/BlackRock's new Puppet. So much better...#LMAO sadly again! They are back in power, but they have taken a lot of incoming...and are going to get some more it looks like.
OK that’s it Jackie speaks for me. I find it amazing that people who recognize this illiberal moment for what it is )like Riff and Caitlin) can’t see past Trumps personal foibles. Mr. Trump gamed the system and stole the Oval Office. This is the system of elites that you decry and he beat it. What gives? Don’t you understand that Trump was a victory for people who want to reject global hegemonic imperial power. Trump thought the establishment were hypocrites and said it every chance he had. As Jackie says - genius. Insofar as Trump was a liar it was out of incompetence and combativeness. The elite are so much smoother and refined in there lies - I believe that is Caitlin’s enduring analysis and constant theme.
When I look at Trump in office, RJF, I see no sweeping away of the Deep State; no pause in their hegemonic grip.
Trump ran a great outsider campaign during a change election and sometimes said the right things. Drain the swamp, yada, yada,yada. But what did he actually do with his Golden Moment? He seemed to make the Deep State pretty darned happy: he tortured Assange; he propped up Israel and the Saudis; he sanctioned Russia, Iran, and Venezuela; he let dull tools like Pompeo and Bolton have their way; he funneled trillions of dollars to Wall Street; he passed a historic, bloated military budget; he stirred up trouble with China; he called whistleblowers traitors. Some champion of the people you got yourself there.
Oh, but called out the NYT and Jim Acosta as fake news. Whooptie-do. And THIS is your big bring-down-American-hegemonic-power hero? Sorry, I just don't get it. This sounds a lot like the same old QAnon BS trying to make Trump into some noble icon that he sadly was not.
Scratch Trump and policy-wise you pretty much reveal a run-of-the-mill shitty republican president; you and Jackie will no doubt continue to believe otherwise.
Aside from such shenanigans, Trump ran a shitty re-election campaign and during his tenure surrounded himself with some shitty swamp people, one assumes willingly (Bolton, Pompeo, Addelson come to mind). There is no "They" who are responsible for that and Trump fanboys (or gals) need to own that. Your unwillingness to see this constitutes a weakness in your arguments as glaring as those Obamaphiles who still maintain that his greatness was done in by those mean republicans.
#LMAO! Talk about 'shitty' this and 'shitty' that...he was no Pedo though and he? He was after them. He was after the Fake News! I'm sure that was a real bad thing...terrible, shitty really. Pile it on Riff, it just makes me happier, huge Tell.
It was a fluke, the They couldn't get ahead of it fast enough to rig it, their software and servers etc. just weren't capable of dealing with it, they made some strategic errors and the Public was no longer quite so Educated/Propagandized as before and over voted them. The They fixed it though this time didn't They? All better now...
OK I gotcha you’re calling the elite the “they”. I actually think they just thought he was a buffoon and had no way of winning so they didn’t realize the peril. I also thought he was a buffoon who had no chance of winning.
Oh please RJF, you call Trump a 'peril'? Are you kidding me? You like the Pedo's, corrupt to the teeth government, and their Hollywood, Fake News and Big Tech 'sponsors'/censors, gun confiscators, all led by Vanguard et. al. from afar? So much better than Trump? You obviously bought the propaganda, no worries many like you all over the planet. Now you have your wish, all back to 'normal'. Orange Man BAD!
My take is that the establishment indeed threw everything they had against him; he didn't help himself by running a pretty dismal re-election campaign and surrounding himself with some pretty dismal swamp creatures.
It was all rigged, top to bottom, even the election and so much more... You believe the voting just stopped in the middle of the night? Hilarious. That all kinds of 'mail-in' voters were just found? You believe the leaked narrative one week ahead of the AZ audit canvass saying, "Biden won!" wasn't propaganda from the legacy media/CIA/as instructed by Vanguard Etc., when they knew what the canvass really found? Tell me you believe the results from all the foreign servers etc. #LMAO! Trump had to Go! He was a neophyte in the Swamp, the most honest person there in reality. He did one BIG HUGE thing however, he called them out to their smarmy faces: FAKE NEWS! He does not get near enough credit for that..., he used their own networks to do it too! How I loved that. Genius! That alone was worth his presidency! And now we have Biden as Vanguard/BlackRock's new Puppet. So much better...#LMAO sadly again! They are back in power, but they have taken a lot of incoming...and are going to get some more it looks like.
OK that’s it Jackie speaks for me. I find it amazing that people who recognize this illiberal moment for what it is )like Riff and Caitlin) can’t see past Trumps personal foibles. Mr. Trump gamed the system and stole the Oval Office. This is the system of elites that you decry and he beat it. What gives? Don’t you understand that Trump was a victory for people who want to reject global hegemonic imperial power. Trump thought the establishment were hypocrites and said it every chance he had. As Jackie says - genius. Insofar as Trump was a liar it was out of incompetence and combativeness. The elite are so much smoother and refined in there lies - I believe that is Caitlin’s enduring analysis and constant theme.
When I look at Trump in office, RJF, I see no sweeping away of the Deep State; no pause in their hegemonic grip.
Trump ran a great outsider campaign during a change election and sometimes said the right things. Drain the swamp, yada, yada,yada. But what did he actually do with his Golden Moment? He seemed to make the Deep State pretty darned happy: he tortured Assange; he propped up Israel and the Saudis; he sanctioned Russia, Iran, and Venezuela; he let dull tools like Pompeo and Bolton have their way; he funneled trillions of dollars to Wall Street; he passed a historic, bloated military budget; he stirred up trouble with China; he called whistleblowers traitors. Some champion of the people you got yourself there.
Oh, but called out the NYT and Jim Acosta as fake news. Whooptie-do. And THIS is your big bring-down-American-hegemonic-power hero? Sorry, I just don't get it. This sounds a lot like the same old QAnon BS trying to make Trump into some noble icon that he sadly was not.
Scratch Trump and policy-wise you pretty much reveal a run-of-the-mill shitty republican president; you and Jackie will no doubt continue to believe otherwise.
You bet I will continue to believe 'otherwise' Riff. You Tell on yourself...
Ok the other side and well enunciated.
Not really, Riff may as well be CNN. He's here for a reason and it's not Freedom, it's more of the same.
Aside from such shenanigans, Trump ran a shitty re-election campaign and during his tenure surrounded himself with some shitty swamp people, one assumes willingly (Bolton, Pompeo, Addelson come to mind). There is no "They" who are responsible for that and Trump fanboys (or gals) need to own that. Your unwillingness to see this constitutes a weakness in your arguments as glaring as those Obamaphiles who still maintain that his greatness was done in by those mean republicans.
#LMAO! Talk about 'shitty' this and 'shitty' that...he was no Pedo though and he? He was after them. He was after the Fake News! I'm sure that was a real bad thing...terrible, shitty really. Pile it on Riff, it just makes me happier, huge Tell.
His 2016 victory was a fluke based on intuition and his intuition let him down the second time.
Nah, I think Trump won. No one can convince me that 81 million people voted for a dementia patient.
You go girl!
Agreed. It’s way more than that, but yes, it’s not even in the realm of possible.
It was a fluke, the They couldn't get ahead of it fast enough to rig it, their software and servers etc. just weren't capable of dealing with it, they made some strategic errors and the Public was no longer quite so Educated/Propagandized as before and over voted them. The They fixed it though this time didn't They? All better now...
OK I gotcha you’re calling the elite the “they”. I actually think they just thought he was a buffoon and had no way of winning so they didn’t realize the peril. I also thought he was a buffoon who had no chance of winning.
Oh please RJF, you call Trump a 'peril'? Are you kidding me? You like the Pedo's, corrupt to the teeth government, and their Hollywood, Fake News and Big Tech 'sponsors'/censors, gun confiscators, all led by Vanguard et. al. from afar? So much better than Trump? You obviously bought the propaganda, no worries many like you all over the planet. Now you have your wish, all back to 'normal'. Orange Man BAD!