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David Avenell's avatar

Well Netanyahu is way off his rocker, if I was still doing counselling I'd be reaching for the alarm button under the desk. But while I can sort of understand why Bibi is doing what he's doing, I'm fucked if I can see why the Amerikan Empire is enabling him.

Here in Aus, assisted suicide is illegal.

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jamenta's avatar

We have a POTUS who has spent his entire life lying to the American people. He's so fucking senile, he sometimes can't find his way off a podium. He probably doesn't give a shit whether the rest of the world goes up in flames - since he's on his way out anyway.

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David Avenell's avatar

According to the old saying - 'You can tell when a politician is lying, his lips move'. I guess if you've reach the top, you must have doing more of it and doing it better. I don't believe that the President runs the country, but those that do have their hands on the levers, must realise that after a global nuclear war, there will be no winners.

Not even Amerika.

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jamenta's avatar

Quite a few of these brain dead like fools were urging JFK to start a nuclear war during the Cuban missile crisis. You'd be surprised how many there are who think a nuclear war is worth risking, and even worth doing. We'll see what happens. If Israel does strike Iran, a lot more people will be dying in the next few weeks/months. How then, you'll keep a cap on the nukes, is beyond me. Israel certainly is going to launch once it realizes it is losing. And it will lose. There is no defense against the hypersonics.

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David Avenell's avatar

It's even worse than just Israel actually because Russia is fighting for their very existence and they have a greater reason than Israel to hit the big red button.

You've previously mentioned that you follow Judge Nap so you've heard John Mearsheimer, Jeffry Sachs, Scott Ritter et al and these people who know whereof they speak, who all think it likely that Russia will come to the aid of Iran, so even if the Empire looses interest in Ukraine we're still in Dr Strangelove territory.

The Cuban Missile Crisis is beginning to look like a minor inconvenience.

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jamenta's avatar

Yes I watch Judge Nap daily now. I agree, Russia ain't going to just watch Iran be blown off the map.

Strangelove is a good reference. It's very clear Israel has no intention of stopping their murderous rampage. The question now, is will they still hit Iran now, or will they just keep the carnage local? It's hard for me to to think they can be that bloody stupid, to attack Iran now. But then, I've never been a very good at judging accurately the depths of human stupidity.

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David Avenell's avatar

Here's my professional opinion: plan for the worst and you can never be disappointed, only pleasantly surprised.

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Marci Sudlow's avatar

Death becomes less scary and more acceptable as one ages, especially when most all your friends and loved ones have crossed over. It's like having a foot in both worlds.

As far as humanity goes, I'd say the human race has done enough damage, and the earth will be better off when we're gone. We've driven countless species extinct, so the logical progression is that we ourselves should be next on our hit list.

Only humans are perverted enough to do the horrible things we do, and to do them on such a grand scale.

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michael janket's avatar

We need to put John Bolton on the tip of Israel's nuke should they decide to go all out on stupidity.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Keep in mind that Russia is desperately trying to avoid war and escalation, while the West is itching for more.

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@smokygirl2006's avatar

These power hungry fools are scary. They probably all have underground bunkers to shelter in when the nukes start flying, but when it’s all over and they just got to come out b/c they have been in the bunkers so long, well that’s when they’ll be hit with the fallout of radiation and will die painful deaths. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of people as far as I’m concerned.I would rather just go up in the blast and get it over with. The ones that start this deserve to die painful deaths for they knowingly gave a terrorist state the bombs and weapons to kill and maim children, provided intelligence to that despicable entity called Israel and escalated war with Russia bringing us ever closer to nuclear Armageddon. These neocons sicken me and if there is a hell I hope they will be in it when they leave this world.😢☮️🇵🇸

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TS's avatar

When I learned about the city under a pasture in West Virginia, where all the "important" members of the government is supposed to evacuate to, to "save our democracy," in response to the cataclysm that they caused, I lost all respect for them. Some leaders. Pull the plug on the ship of state and head for the only lifeboat. There's a lake down there. I bet it's staffed with 24-year old female assistants.

Now that the .001% are all building bunkers, I fantasize about the balloon going up, they pile into their bunker, and, hey, that seal doesn't work. That screw-down port doesn't quite fit. The toilet backs up. The batteries leak. The food is full of sawdust. Because the shittification that the corporations have imposed on everything that is made these days, will also be visited upon their stupid bunkers. Enjoy the mold, the stuff that breaks, the smell of paint.

Why do they think we will let them out afterwards?

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Kojo's avatar

The crazy part about those government plans is that there is another separate shelter for their immediate families ie wife and children. It is above ground in a different location, where they would die of course.

And the nuclear war planning scenarios predict that like 60-70 percent of Americans would die in such a war. So that means their cousins, grandmother, friends, all dead.

Who the hell proceeds towards this kind of madness that would sacrifice everyone they know.

They are some sick f.....s....

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Feral Finster's avatar

"Why do they think we will let them out afterwards?"

Because they are better at minipulation.

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Darkstar's avatar

I'm not sure about hell, smokygirl, but when the nukes start dropping, many of us will still be alive.

Eventually those that live,will find the rat holes where the ones that created this mess are hiding.

Justice will be ours.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Even see "Don't Look Up!"?

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@smokygirl2006's avatar

No, I haven’t Feral. Do you have a link I can go to?

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unwarranted's avatar

I don’t think Israel launches a strike on Iran without U.S. approval. And I don’t see that approval coming from the WH or State Department before the election. Biden has taken his party out on a limb, and there’s no turning back. My hope is that the DP loses again, and whoever takes office will not let any neocons have any role in their government.

Isn’t it curious how every step that Netanyahu has taken has brought his country closer to total destruction, and every step taken by Biden appears to be hastening the end of the empire?

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jamenta's avatar

Israel can't strike without US support. And it does appear US is giving all possible support to Israel it can, including the required tactical planning needed to strike Iran. I don't believe Biden is trying to stop Israel at all - that is standard US propaganda BS to cover Washington's ass. If Biden wanted to, he could pull the plug with a phone call. He hasn't and won't.

I think these fools really do think they can win a war with Iran.

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Feral Finster's avatar

The irony is that, if Trump were to win, Team D would suddenly rediscover human rights for a little while.

Sort of like how Team D congressmen bewailed the Saudi genocide in Yemen, only to reverse course once Trump was no longer in the Oval Office.

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hierochloe's avatar

yup, brunch would be over

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TS's avatar

There's no hope of that. When Obama held over Bush's secretary of defense, and his secretary of the treasury who had just overseen the collapse of 2008, I knew that the two parties were just front men for the same forces. The neocons couped this country in 2000, when Bush was appointed president by the Supreme Court, and they still run what passes for our foreign policy.

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Kojo's avatar

The problem. as Chris Hedges has noted, is that the present ruling class is greedy to the point of being stupid and blind. They dont get the concept that they are limits to squeezing things. They dont get the concept of blowback even when its int their face.

And all the cowards that serve them in politics are too gutless to tell them there are limits.

Presumably they have escape rockets ready to take them to mars, because they are going to wreck this planet here.

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David Avenell's avatar

Yeah Kojo, there was a widely read book back in the seventies, I think it was titled something like 'Men are from Mars - Send them back'

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Contrarian 33's avatar

I gave a few suggestions a day or so ago, David, identifying the fact that ............

* the US is down to 7 years of oil reserves.

* Israel is well placed to be the procurer and security guard for their partners-in-crime in the USA, that is 330 million of them now under the control of AIPAC through political corruption, already in place, for the continuing and constant supply of oil and gas.

* the security with the oil providers is then protected by up to 400 Israeli nuclear warheads...... "one for every capital", stated, currently stacked in Dimona.

* Israel will then turn all the land "from the river to the sea" into Israel as planned, a very wealthy tourist mecca using Palestinian and Lebanon land, with a waiting list already rumoured to be in place. Zelensky said to be a land owner. He has the qualifications required.....money and he is jJewish. Both mandatory.

Israelis as a sect are a devious, inhumane bunch as the world now knows having the USA by the vitals and so much more of the Western world able to be influenced through banking, business investment, historical relationships and on, from older times when Jews were acceptable, not like today's murderers, rapists, liars and child killers.

My feelings conclude with the quite obvious fact that what the US is getting away with as a more than willing Israeli partner has been well planned, with the great assistance of the Western / white / anglo / christian countries. Probably safe to say that these countries as a group consider the whole world is totally their domain, maintaining or extending power over foreign nations as their absolute right. As a result, they will rue the day that they opened their doors to immigrants who are now well on the way to population advantage in Sweden, Germany, the UK and so many other countries

Israel now having joined the imperialist clan. Hence the protection and connivance of the USA.

Just a theory, David. OIL, the key. Time will tell.

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David Avenell's avatar

Nah, oil has had it's day. To quote an old shampoo ad, 'It won't happen overnight but it will happen'.

The smart money knows it will happen and are investing accordingly and they're not going to place their bets on a losing proposition.

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Raymond Kalberg's avatar

Joe Biden suffers from alzhrimer/ dementia and is putty in the hands of people like Netanyahu.

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blackbird's avatar

What ? "assisted suicide is illegal" in Aus ?

You have already forgotten what happened in aus. and the world just a year back. That's what psychos hide... and wait .....

https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/zowe-smith-its-critical-to-acknowledge?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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michael janket's avatar

The American empire is Khazarian.......need I say more?

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Rukshana Afia's avatar

It seems that accusing someone of mental illness has become a valid reason/excuse for murder . I don't say genocide because that seems to be easy to forgive/totally understandable or maybe it has become so commonplace that it no longer packsa punch ?

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David Avenell's avatar

It's not so much a case of accusing someone of mental illness as a case of 'if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......'

I think a jury of several hundred million are well and truly out on that one

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Feral Finster's avatar

Why? As long as he has his American thug, Netanyahu is perfectly safe.

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