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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Based on your comment above, I doubt you would recognize truth if it hit you in your face.

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musicbob's avatar

ThomNast,

You noted that Caitlin (and I guess others) could republish your comments here.

I went to your site, and noticed that you have published three pieces. You provide no hyperlinked references to support your claims... that's a major NO-NO, at least to me anyway. When you read Caitlin's articles, she always provides hyperlinked references to support her claims (or if it is a claim she has made previously, she has hyperlinked at that time).

Your specific posting, which you seem to have paraphrased here in this comment section is this article of yours... ""Israeli Apartheid Knows No Bounds"". You ought to consider re-publishing this piece with hyperlinks to all your references that support your claims. This is hugely important to anyone wanting their perspectives to to be taken seriously (as opposed to sort of cheerleading). Either that or inform the reader that what you wrote is just your opinion (when I submit even just a comment, I generally try to inform people that what I'm writing is my "opinion", what I "think"). Personally, I want to be able to click on all of the journalist's hyperlinks (or randomly select various ones) to verify their claims, and the quality of their references.

I will not forward/send out an article that does not support their claims/position with verifiable references. Serious journalists/researchers will always do this. As just a case in point, if you read any Noam Chomsky book/research, sometimes the last 20% (percent) of his book pages are dedicated to just footnotes/references (a 400 page book of his could often have 80 pages of clearly verifiable references).

Perhaps there is veracity to some/most (maybe even all?) your claims... who

knows? (knowing the utter depravity of what Israel is doing, and has been doing for a very long time, there is that possibility), but from what I have seen/experienced over many years, disseminating un-verified (or improperly verified) claims can often (ultimately) be extremely damaging to one's position (and one's "cause"... assuming you have one), and their ability to be taken seriously in the future. There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel (without having to manufacture anything else... which I'm not saying you have done here... as I really don't know, haven't even tried to verify your claims... only that in your publications on your site you have not provided a way for the reader to easily verify the claims you are making ("easily" being the operative word).

Anyway, just a suggestion for your future publications, or if you decide to RE-publish your piece that I specifically pointed out above.

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ThomNast's avatar

I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else. What I have stated is going on in israel as we speak. Anyone can easily verify what I have stated is TRUTH.

Are you worried that israel's reputation is being tarnished? There are many IDF unit 8200 trolls who attempt to discredit any negative responses towards israel I hope you are not a unit 8200 member.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Like I've said before (though I think you missed reading it) - you wouldn't recognize the truth if it hit you in your face.

You very likely seem to be a neo-Nazi troll that is abusing the tragedy of the Palestinians to further your own narratives. Have you no shame? Don't you think the Palestinians are suffering enough without you aiding the Zionists? Nice try - maybe you'll have better luck on some neo-Nazi substack.

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ThomNast's avatar

when you don't get your way, the old "nazi" perjorative gets trotted out. What makes you think that I am aiding zionists. I despise them with a passion.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Do you despise Zionists or Jews? There is a difference.

Do you despise Zionists or Judaism? There is a difference.

If you don't understand the DIFFERENCE between 'Jews' and 'Zionism' and continue with believing in Jew-hatred narratives, then you are on the side of Zionists (as this is the SAME thing Zionists want - to be not able to differentiate between Jews, Judaism, Zionism).

What people (and TRUE anti-semites) fail to understand:

(1) Zionism is NOT EQUAL to Jews (There are Christian Zionists and other Zionists)

(2) Zionism is NOT Judaism

(3) Jews is NOT Judaism (there are Christian Jews, Arab Jews, Athiest Jews & Secular Jews, etc.)

(4) Jews is NOT EQUAL to Israel

(5) Criticizing Israel is NOT anti-semitism

(6) Criticizing Zionism is NOT anti-semitism

And some (no longer) controversial ones:

(7) Zionism = Anti-Semitism (the justification is too complex to present here)

(8) Zionism ideology = Nazi ideology

Blaming Jews (as a race globally) for the actions of Israeli Zionists is like blaming Muslims for the abuses of Saudi Arabia.

Blaming Jews (as a race globally) for the actions of Israeli Zionists is like blaming all Christians for the Crusades and the Inquisition.

It is important to draw distinctions between one's ethnicity, religion, etc. and their personal and political motivations and actions and grabs for power and control.

Read this one AGAIN -> Zionism <=> Nazism and Nazism <=> Zionism -> Hence, since you espouse Nazi ideologies, you also espouse Zionist ideologies.

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musicbob's avatar

Perfect

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musicbob's avatar

What gave it away to you (my supposed worry about "israel's reputation")... was it my statement above noting this... ""There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel""

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Musicbob, why are you replying to my comment instead of to ThomNast's comment?

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musicbob's avatar

Never mind, now I see my re-posting of it (in the right spot, I think). Apologies.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

No worries, I didn't jump to any conclusions - and I trust (and know) that your heart and mind are in the right place. ❤️

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musicbob's avatar

dammit. I cant tell if I've made the same posting mistake, as my long comment appears to listed under yours (again).

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

No, it's alright now - posted correctly.

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musicbob's avatar

Oops.sorry. My eyes are bugging out with so many new sub-lines, etc. Thanks. will re-post (assuming I can find p[roper spot)

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