ThomNast: This comment is interesting. I scrolled down and found another of your comments. I am not really sure about your holocaust comments. As I read what you write, it gets close to real anti semitism and, while I do agree that the State of Israel and many Israelis are sick in their heads about their attitude toward non Jews, especially toward Arabs, I find it difficult to digest all that you are saying. It is that thing of hate begetting more hate and the more we allow ourselves to hate the more we are encouraging its existence. Personally, I prefer to try to change that in myself and in others, if possible. My hope is that we will eventually have a world free of hate. The way the climate crisis is going, that is a real possibility. A world free of people and the hate that they bring into the world.
I have investigated holocaust claims at length for many decades now and can prove that most holocaust claims are fraudulent. It's not "anti-semitism" to seek and ascertain TRUTH. The use of the label "anti-semtism" is used as a pejorative which is intended to suppress truth.
It is not antisemitism because most jews are white khazarian converts and are not semitic people. True antisemitism is genocidal oppression of Palestinians (muslim, christian, and jewish). You mean holowcaust industry propaganda.
You noted that Caitlin (and I guess others) could republish your comments here.
I went to your site, and noticed that you have published three pieces. You provide no hyperlinked references to support your claims... that's a major NO-NO, at least to me anyway. When you read Caitlin's articles, she always provides hyperlinked references to support her claims (or if it is a claim she has made previously, she has hyperlinked at that time).
Your specific posting, which you seem to have paraphrased here in this comment section is this article of yours... ""Israeli Apartheid Knows No Bounds"". You ought to consider re-publishing this piece with hyperlinks to all your references that support your claims. This is hugely important to anyone wanting their perspectives to to be taken seriously (as opposed to sort of cheerleading). Either that or inform the reader that what you wrote is just your opinion (when I submit even just a comment, I generally try to inform people that what I'm writing is my "opinion", what I "think"). Personally, I want to be able to click on all of the journalist's hyperlinks (or randomly select various ones) to verify their claims, and the quality of their references.
I will not forward/send out an article that does not support their claims/position with verifiable references. Serious journalists/researchers will always do this. As just a case in point, if you read any Noam Chomsky book/research, sometimes the last 20% (percent) of his book pages are dedicated to just footnotes/references (a 400 page book of his could often have 80 pages of clearly verifiable references).
Perhaps there is veracity to some/most (maybe even all?) your claims... who
knows? (knowing the utter depravity of what Israel is doing, and has been doing for a very long time, there is that possibility), but from what I have seen/experienced over many years, disseminating un-verified (or improperly verified) claims can often (ultimately) be extremely damaging to one's position (and one's "cause"... assuming you have one), and their ability to be taken seriously in the future. There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel (without having to manufacture anything else... which I'm not saying you have done here... as I really don't know, haven't even tried to verify your claims... only that in your publications on your site you have not provided a way for the reader to easily verify the claims you are making ("easily" being the operative word).
Anyway, just a suggestion for your future publications, or if you decide to RE-publish your piece that I specifically pointed out above.
I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else. What I have stated is going on in israel as we speak. Anyone can easily verify what I have stated is TRUTH.
Are you worried that israel's reputation is being tarnished? There are many IDF unit 8200 trolls who attempt to discredit any negative responses towards israel I hope you are not a unit 8200 member.
Like I've said before (though I think you missed reading it) - you wouldn't recognize the truth if it hit you in your face.
You very likely seem to be a neo-Nazi troll that is abusing the tragedy of the Palestinians to further your own narratives. Have you no shame? Don't you think the Palestinians are suffering enough without you aiding the Zionists? Nice try - maybe you'll have better luck on some neo-Nazi substack.
when you don't get your way, the old "nazi" perjorative gets trotted out. What makes you think that I am aiding zionists. I despise them with a passion.
What gave it away to you (my supposed worry about "israel's reputation")... was it my statement above noting this... ""There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel""
There are no hate speech regarding how you disagree with it. The constitution is so stupid for not saying FREE HATE SPEECH! Good complementary speeches do not need protections. The libtards invented that "hate speech " bs
You noted that Caitlin (and I guess others) could republish your comments here.
I went to your site, and noticed that you have published three pieces. You provide no hyperlinked references to support your claims... that's a major NO-NO, at least to me anyway. When you read Caitlin's articles, she always provides hyperlinked references to support her claims (or if it is a claim she has made previously, she has hyperlinked at that time).
Your specific posting, which you seem to have paraphrased here in this comment section is this article of yours... ""Israeli Apartheid Knows No Bounds"". You ought to consider re-publishing this piece with hyperlinks to all your references that support your claims. This is hugely important to anyone wanting their perspectives to to be taken seriously (as opposed to sort of cheerleading). Either that or inform the reader that what you wrote is just your opinion (when I submit even just a comment, I generally try to inform people that what I'm writing is my "opinion", what I "think"). Personally, I want to be able to click on all of the journalist's hyperlinks (or randomly select various ones) to verify their claims, and the quality of their references.
I will not forward/send out an article that does not support their claims/position with verifiable references. Serious journalists/researchers will always do this. As just a case in point, if you read any Noam Chomsky book/research, sometimes the last 20% (percent) of his book pages are dedicated to just footnotes/references (a 400 page book of his could often have 80 pages of clearly verifiable references).
Perhaps there is veracity to some/most (maybe even all?) your claims... who
knows? (knowing the utter depravity of what Israel is doing, and has been doing for a very long time, there is that possibility), but from what I have seen/experienced over many years, disseminating un-verified (or improperly verified) claims can often (ultimately) be extremely damaging to one's position (and one's "cause"... assuming you have one), and their ability to be taken seriously in the future. There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel (without having to manufacture anything else... which I'm not saying you have done here... as I really don't know, haven't even tried to verify your claims... only that in your publications on your site you have not provided a way for the reader to easily verify the claims you are making ("easily" being the operative word).
Anyway, just a suggestion for your future publications, or if you decide to RE-publish your piece that I specifically pointed out above.
You noted that Caitlin (and I guess others) could republish your comments here.
I went to your site, and noticed that you have published three pieces. You provide no hyperlinked references to support your claims... that's a major NO-NO, at least to me anyway. When you read Caitlin's articles, she always provides hyperlinked references to support her claims (or if it is a claim she has made previously, she has hyperlinked at that time).
Your specific posting, which you seem to have paraphrased here in this comment section is this article of yours... ""Israeli Apartheid Knows No Bounds"". You ought to consider re-publishing this piece with hyperlinks to all your references that support your claims. This is hugely important to anyone wanting their perspectives to to be taken seriously (as opposed to sort of cheerleading). Either that or inform the reader that what you wrote is just your opinion (when I submit even just a comment, I generally try to inform people that what I'm writing is my "opinion", what I "think"). Personally, I want to be able to click on all of the journalist's hyperlinks (or randomly select various ones) to verify their claims, and the quality of their references.
I will not forward/send out an article that does not support their claims/position with verifiable references. Serious journalists/researchers will always do this. As just a case in point, if you read any Noam Chomsky book/research, sometimes the last 20% (percent) of his book pages are dedicated to just footnotes/references (a 400 page book of his could often have 80 pages of clearly verifiable references).
Perhaps there is veracity to some/most (maybe even all?) your claims... who
knows? (knowing the utter depravity of what Israel is doing, and has been doing for a very long time, there is that possibility), but from what I have seen/experienced over many years, disseminating un-verified (or improperly verified) claims can often (ultimately) be extremely damaging to one's position (and one's "cause"... assuming you have one), and their ability to be taken seriously in the future. There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel (without having to manufacture anything else... which I'm not saying you have done here... as I really don't know, haven't even tried to verify your claims... only that in your publications on your site you have not provided a way for the reader to easily verify the claims you are making ("easily" being the operative word).
Anyway, just a suggestion for your future publications, or if you decide to RE-publish your piece that I specifically pointed out above.
You won’t get far singing Kumbaya round the camp fire with Israelis. Many of them have murder in their hearts, and are sociopathic if not psychopathic.
not sure I understand what you mean here. I don't see recognizing that people (Jews and others) have been brainwashed with Zionism is singing Kumbaya. It is only recognizing what is true. Once we know what is going on, we have a slim chance of stopping it. And I wouldn't say that it is only Israelis that have murder in their hearts. Americans and Brits are showing a lot of that too. Just that Israelis are doing it. With the support of all those others who have murder in their hearts but who want to pretend they are the good guys, just helplessly watching the Israelis murder people.
Is it cognitive dissonance or simply moral depravity that compels some to speak up at hint of anti-semitism while the reality of ethnic cleansing rages on?
It’s not a moral crime to speak harsh truths about a state, a nation, or of a person and or people if those truths are grounded in reality. If they are false, expose them,
But if you must, please go ahead and open your anti-semitism umbrella, because its raining blood and body parts.
I am not sure if it is worth responding to you regarding this topic, but I do not consider criticism of the State of Israel, the IDF, Netanyahu to be anti semitic. I consider attacking Judaism without apparently understanding that it is the ideology of Zionism that is the problem not the religion of Judaism to likely be antisemitic. I do understand that many Jews in Israel support the ongoing genocide. But in my view, it is their Zionist thinking that allows them to give this support. It is not a clear cut issue, I realize, but, to me, it is important to know that there are many Jews who oppose Zionism and Zionism is the thinking that is allowing a genocide to happen.
Thank-you for reply. Well I think yours is a very worthy reply,and appreciate you taking the time to reply, and I agree with you. Zionist is not Judaism.
I read ThomNast`s comment in full, he should have spoken of the cruelty of the Zionists (not Jew or Jews) but unfortunately for many these are one in the same because of the very fact the Zionist regime declares itself the Jewish state, and obliviously not enough Jews have spoken loudly enough to counter this false equivalence.
If ThomNast did blatantly bash the Jewish faith in a different comment, perhaps you should have made your point in reply that comment . I could not find his other comment, Substack threads do not always display all comments nor in chronological order.
Though I have to agree in part, any faith preaches that their faith has Divine right over others has questionable ideology in my opinion.
Back a few comments, another commenter notes that ThomNast makes a lot of claims about the holocaust not happening but he does not give any links. He seems to think we should just believe him. Check out what musicbob says four or five comments before this one.
Holocaust deniers, well, do they rank as low as those who deny that, right now as we speak, the Zionist regime is carrying out a policy of ethnic cleansing with extreme cruelty?
It’s pointless to act like Chicken Little every time someone writes something uninformed. I’ve yet to find anyone with whom I totally agree; we all have different perspectives and different motives for engaging with strangers on social media.
As for me, I’m here for the discourse. I offer my opinions, and I want to hear others’ opinions. I understand the risks, you see, I’ve completely lost faith in governments and corporate media outlets. They lie!
So choose whose arguments you engage with. If they seem logically sound, engage. And try to avoid creating an echo chamber.
Of course, I have my biases, as does everyone else. Not many people can fully separate their reasoning from their emotions. I know nothing about you, and you know nothing about me.
I might be an avid reader of Caitlin’s posts, but I often find myself at odds with her simplistic views. If you’ve read my comments on this post, you’d see that I don’t think Israel is a uniquely evil society, but I do think the collective West is . because it is guilty for enabling and allowing such evil to exist for so long!
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,”
ThomNast: This comment is interesting. I scrolled down and found another of your comments. I am not really sure about your holocaust comments. As I read what you write, it gets close to real anti semitism and, while I do agree that the State of Israel and many Israelis are sick in their heads about their attitude toward non Jews, especially toward Arabs, I find it difficult to digest all that you are saying. It is that thing of hate begetting more hate and the more we allow ourselves to hate the more we are encouraging its existence. Personally, I prefer to try to change that in myself and in others, if possible. My hope is that we will eventually have a world free of hate. The way the climate crisis is going, that is a real possibility. A world free of people and the hate that they bring into the world.
I have investigated holocaust claims at length for many decades now and can prove that most holocaust claims are fraudulent. It's not "anti-semitism" to seek and ascertain TRUTH. The use of the label "anti-semtism" is used as a pejorative which is intended to suppress truth.
It's not hate to pursue TRUTH.
Best regards,
Exactly. The truth is called hate speech by those who live by lies.
Zionists are creating more antisemitism than anyone else could do. They are grist for the mill of holocaust deniers.
It is not antisemitism because most jews are white khazarian converts and are not semitic people. True antisemitism is genocidal oppression of Palestinians (muslim, christian, and jewish). You mean holowcaust industry propaganda.
Based on your comment above, I doubt you would recognize truth if it hit you in your face.
ThomNast,
You noted that Caitlin (and I guess others) could republish your comments here.
I went to your site, and noticed that you have published three pieces. You provide no hyperlinked references to support your claims... that's a major NO-NO, at least to me anyway. When you read Caitlin's articles, she always provides hyperlinked references to support her claims (or if it is a claim she has made previously, she has hyperlinked at that time).
Your specific posting, which you seem to have paraphrased here in this comment section is this article of yours... ""Israeli Apartheid Knows No Bounds"". You ought to consider re-publishing this piece with hyperlinks to all your references that support your claims. This is hugely important to anyone wanting their perspectives to to be taken seriously (as opposed to sort of cheerleading). Either that or inform the reader that what you wrote is just your opinion (when I submit even just a comment, I generally try to inform people that what I'm writing is my "opinion", what I "think"). Personally, I want to be able to click on all of the journalist's hyperlinks (or randomly select various ones) to verify their claims, and the quality of their references.
I will not forward/send out an article that does not support their claims/position with verifiable references. Serious journalists/researchers will always do this. As just a case in point, if you read any Noam Chomsky book/research, sometimes the last 20% (percent) of his book pages are dedicated to just footnotes/references (a 400 page book of his could often have 80 pages of clearly verifiable references).
Perhaps there is veracity to some/most (maybe even all?) your claims... who
knows? (knowing the utter depravity of what Israel is doing, and has been doing for a very long time, there is that possibility), but from what I have seen/experienced over many years, disseminating un-verified (or improperly verified) claims can often (ultimately) be extremely damaging to one's position (and one's "cause"... assuming you have one), and their ability to be taken seriously in the future. There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel (without having to manufacture anything else... which I'm not saying you have done here... as I really don't know, haven't even tried to verify your claims... only that in your publications on your site you have not provided a way for the reader to easily verify the claims you are making ("easily" being the operative word).
Anyway, just a suggestion for your future publications, or if you decide to RE-publish your piece that I specifically pointed out above.
I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else. What I have stated is going on in israel as we speak. Anyone can easily verify what I have stated is TRUTH.
Are you worried that israel's reputation is being tarnished? There are many IDF unit 8200 trolls who attempt to discredit any negative responses towards israel I hope you are not a unit 8200 member.
Like I've said before (though I think you missed reading it) - you wouldn't recognize the truth if it hit you in your face.
You very likely seem to be a neo-Nazi troll that is abusing the tragedy of the Palestinians to further your own narratives. Have you no shame? Don't you think the Palestinians are suffering enough without you aiding the Zionists? Nice try - maybe you'll have better luck on some neo-Nazi substack.
when you don't get your way, the old "nazi" perjorative gets trotted out. What makes you think that I am aiding zionists. I despise them with a passion.
Perfect
What gave it away to you (my supposed worry about "israel's reputation")... was it my statement above noting this... ""There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel""
Musicbob, why are you replying to my comment instead of to ThomNast's comment?
Never mind, now I see my re-posting of it (in the right spot, I think). Apologies.
No worries, I didn't jump to any conclusions - and I trust (and know) that your heart and mind are in the right place. ❤️
dammit. I cant tell if I've made the same posting mistake, as my long comment appears to listed under yours (again).
No, it's alright now - posted correctly.
Oops.sorry. My eyes are bugging out with so many new sub-lines, etc. Thanks. will re-post (assuming I can find p[roper spot)
There are no hate speech regarding how you disagree with it. The constitution is so stupid for not saying FREE HATE SPEECH! Good complementary speeches do not need protections. The libtards invented that "hate speech " bs
is your experience of any use in investigating the claims of genocide and 'holocaust' in gaza?
ThomNast,
You noted that Caitlin (and I guess others) could republish your comments here.
I went to your site, and noticed that you have published three pieces. You provide no hyperlinked references to support your claims... that's a major NO-NO, at least to me anyway. When you read Caitlin's articles, she always provides hyperlinked references to support her claims (or if it is a claim she has made previously, she has hyperlinked at that time).
Your specific posting, which you seem to have paraphrased here in this comment section is this article of yours... ""Israeli Apartheid Knows No Bounds"". You ought to consider re-publishing this piece with hyperlinks to all your references that support your claims. This is hugely important to anyone wanting their perspectives to to be taken seriously (as opposed to sort of cheerleading). Either that or inform the reader that what you wrote is just your opinion (when I submit even just a comment, I generally try to inform people that what I'm writing is my "opinion", what I "think"). Personally, I want to be able to click on all of the journalist's hyperlinks (or randomly select various ones) to verify their claims, and the quality of their references.
I will not forward/send out an article that does not support their claims/position with verifiable references. Serious journalists/researchers will always do this. As just a case in point, if you read any Noam Chomsky book/research, sometimes the last 20% (percent) of his book pages are dedicated to just footnotes/references (a 400 page book of his could often have 80 pages of clearly verifiable references).
Perhaps there is veracity to some/most (maybe even all?) your claims... who
knows? (knowing the utter depravity of what Israel is doing, and has been doing for a very long time, there is that possibility), but from what I have seen/experienced over many years, disseminating un-verified (or improperly verified) claims can often (ultimately) be extremely damaging to one's position (and one's "cause"... assuming you have one), and their ability to be taken seriously in the future. There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel (without having to manufacture anything else... which I'm not saying you have done here... as I really don't know, haven't even tried to verify your claims... only that in your publications on your site you have not provided a way for the reader to easily verify the claims you are making ("easily" being the operative word).
Anyway, just a suggestion for your future publications, or if you decide to RE-publish your piece that I specifically pointed out above.
ThomNast,
You noted that Caitlin (and I guess others) could republish your comments here.
I went to your site, and noticed that you have published three pieces. You provide no hyperlinked references to support your claims... that's a major NO-NO, at least to me anyway. When you read Caitlin's articles, she always provides hyperlinked references to support her claims (or if it is a claim she has made previously, she has hyperlinked at that time).
Your specific posting, which you seem to have paraphrased here in this comment section is this article of yours... ""Israeli Apartheid Knows No Bounds"". You ought to consider re-publishing this piece with hyperlinks to all your references that support your claims. This is hugely important to anyone wanting their perspectives to to be taken seriously (as opposed to sort of cheerleading). Either that or inform the reader that what you wrote is just your opinion (when I submit even just a comment, I generally try to inform people that what I'm writing is my "opinion", what I "think"). Personally, I want to be able to click on all of the journalist's hyperlinks (or randomly select various ones) to verify their claims, and the quality of their references.
I will not forward/send out an article that does not support their claims/position with verifiable references. Serious journalists/researchers will always do this. As just a case in point, if you read any Noam Chomsky book/research, sometimes the last 20% (percent) of his book pages are dedicated to just footnotes/references (a 400 page book of his could often have 80 pages of clearly verifiable references).
Perhaps there is veracity to some/most (maybe even all?) your claims... who
knows? (knowing the utter depravity of what Israel is doing, and has been doing for a very long time, there is that possibility), but from what I have seen/experienced over many years, disseminating un-verified (or improperly verified) claims can often (ultimately) be extremely damaging to one's position (and one's "cause"... assuming you have one), and their ability to be taken seriously in the future. There is more than enough, MOUNTAINS OF, completely factual reasons to utterly abhor Israel (without having to manufacture anything else... which I'm not saying you have done here... as I really don't know, haven't even tried to verify your claims... only that in your publications on your site you have not provided a way for the reader to easily verify the claims you are making ("easily" being the operative word).
Anyway, just a suggestion for your future publications, or if you decide to RE-publish your piece that I specifically pointed out above.
You won’t get far singing Kumbaya round the camp fire with Israelis. Many of them have murder in their hearts, and are sociopathic if not psychopathic.
not sure I understand what you mean here. I don't see recognizing that people (Jews and others) have been brainwashed with Zionism is singing Kumbaya. It is only recognizing what is true. Once we know what is going on, we have a slim chance of stopping it. And I wouldn't say that it is only Israelis that have murder in their hearts. Americans and Brits are showing a lot of that too. Just that Israelis are doing it. With the support of all those others who have murder in their hearts but who want to pretend they are the good guys, just helplessly watching the Israelis murder people.
Is it cognitive dissonance or simply moral depravity that compels some to speak up at hint of anti-semitism while the reality of ethnic cleansing rages on?
It’s not a moral crime to speak harsh truths about a state, a nation, or of a person and or people if those truths are grounded in reality. If they are false, expose them,
But if you must, please go ahead and open your anti-semitism umbrella, because its raining blood and body parts.
,
I am not sure if it is worth responding to you regarding this topic, but I do not consider criticism of the State of Israel, the IDF, Netanyahu to be anti semitic. I consider attacking Judaism without apparently understanding that it is the ideology of Zionism that is the problem not the religion of Judaism to likely be antisemitic. I do understand that many Jews in Israel support the ongoing genocide. But in my view, it is their Zionist thinking that allows them to give this support. It is not a clear cut issue, I realize, but, to me, it is important to know that there are many Jews who oppose Zionism and Zionism is the thinking that is allowing a genocide to happen.
Thank-you for reply. Well I think yours is a very worthy reply,and appreciate you taking the time to reply, and I agree with you. Zionist is not Judaism.
I read ThomNast`s comment in full, he should have spoken of the cruelty of the Zionists (not Jew or Jews) but unfortunately for many these are one in the same because of the very fact the Zionist regime declares itself the Jewish state, and obliviously not enough Jews have spoken loudly enough to counter this false equivalence.
If ThomNast did blatantly bash the Jewish faith in a different comment, perhaps you should have made your point in reply that comment . I could not find his other comment, Substack threads do not always display all comments nor in chronological order.
Though I have to agree in part, any faith preaches that their faith has Divine right over others has questionable ideology in my opinion.
Back a few comments, another commenter notes that ThomNast makes a lot of claims about the holocaust not happening but he does not give any links. He seems to think we should just believe him. Check out what musicbob says four or five comments before this one.
Holocaust deniers, well, do they rank as low as those who deny that, right now as we speak, the Zionist regime is carrying out a policy of ethnic cleansing with extreme cruelty?
It’s pointless to act like Chicken Little every time someone writes something uninformed. I’ve yet to find anyone with whom I totally agree; we all have different perspectives and different motives for engaging with strangers on social media.
As for me, I’m here for the discourse. I offer my opinions, and I want to hear others’ opinions. I understand the risks, you see, I’ve completely lost faith in governments and corporate media outlets. They lie!
So choose whose arguments you engage with. If they seem logically sound, engage. And try to avoid creating an echo chamber.
Of course, I have my biases, as does everyone else. Not many people can fully separate their reasoning from their emotions. I know nothing about you, and you know nothing about me.
I might be an avid reader of Caitlin’s posts, but I often find myself at odds with her simplistic views. If you’ve read my comments on this post, you’d see that I don’t think Israel is a uniquely evil society, but I do think the collective West is . because it is guilty for enabling and allowing such evil to exist for so long!
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,”
Truth will set u free of hate