Uh Chang, see my comment above agreeing with most of what you said. But the "Illuminati" is very real. Or, as Robert Anton Wilson put it, "If a secret society of magic wielders with enormous wealth and power affect Govts worldwide for their aims, and they call themselves "The Illuminati", who is to decide who are the "Real Illuminati""?
Btw, you should just read the wiki page on the Illuminati. Unusually for wikipedia, it's historically accurate. It was a real secret society. No, I didn't believe it either the first time I read about it. But it's all true.
Yes, the Illuminati was a REAL secret society (and there are many others - including in our time) - I never denied that. My problem is with the MYTHS and conspiracy theories surrounding such societies that completely distort the history.
Just as with MANY conspiracy theories, they are based on a kernel of truth/history, but (over the ages) some people/groups/psychologies completely bastardize, distort, invent, embellish, hype, mythologize, and sometimes outright lie to present a narrative that is SO DIFFERENT from the truth/real history that it lands up being a discredited and debunked conspiracy that people so love to continue to propagate and propagandize.
>>"Btw, you should just read the wiki page on the Illuminati."
I was going to link the Illuminati page from Wikipedia, but then I realized that this substack is very popular with conspiracy theorists, anti-science people, and black-and-white distrusters of everything on Wikipedia - and so I relented.
Uh Chang, see my comment above agreeing with most of what you said. But the "Illuminati" is very real. Or, as Robert Anton Wilson put it, "If a secret society of magic wielders with enormous wealth and power affect Govts worldwide for their aims, and they call themselves "The Illuminati", who is to decide who are the "Real Illuminati""?
Btw, you should just read the wiki page on the Illuminati. Unusually for wikipedia, it's historically accurate. It was a real secret society. No, I didn't believe it either the first time I read about it. But it's all true.
Yes, the Illuminati was a REAL secret society (and there are many others - including in our time) - I never denied that. My problem is with the MYTHS and conspiracy theories surrounding such societies that completely distort the history.
Just as with MANY conspiracy theories, they are based on a kernel of truth/history, but (over the ages) some people/groups/psychologies completely bastardize, distort, invent, embellish, hype, mythologize, and sometimes outright lie to present a narrative that is SO DIFFERENT from the truth/real history that it lands up being a discredited and debunked conspiracy that people so love to continue to propagate and propagandize.
>>"Btw, you should just read the wiki page on the Illuminati."
I was going to link the Illuminati page from Wikipedia, but then I realized that this substack is very popular with conspiracy theorists, anti-science people, and black-and-white distrusters of everything on Wikipedia - and so I relented.