"I really can't imagine how Israel SHOULD survive."
Before getting into any of that, it's high time, finally, to create an Israel II. Don't wait. From part of Germany, where it can make sense not just to certain Jews, but to the rest of the world, too. Given what's transpired in 79+ years, we *all* have the right to vote on this.
I'm saying that to the extent Germany, as a nation, can be judged the perp inflicting Jews greatest suffering, a sovereign nation should be created from that territory, before any other territory can or could have been justified taking from the indigenous people. Because only Antarctica is actually empty.
Actually, yes, the US may be the most practical candidate for a Jewish homeland, IMO. But a lot of stuff needs to be fixed first, starting with the unconstitutional antisemitism laws springing up lately in every state. Maybe Canada, which is even emptier, but as I said, *nowhere* is truly empty. It takes negotiation and compromise and good faith, something Israel (or Zionism in general?) seems highly allergic to.
I don't make any judgments on people on the basis of their unselected and especially immutable characteristics. The only judgments I make are on the basis of their conscious (selected) behavior, regardless of the causes. Everyone finds themselves in circumstances not of their own making.
I had prefaced that with "to the extent Germany, as a nation, can be judged the perp".
I'm open to revisiting the 80-year campaign about all the facts of the Nazi Holocaust, as a number of Jews have raised alarms about it. A society is not free if it does not allow *perpetual* open questioning and debate. There is never finality of conclusions about *anything*, if only because new generations don't have built-in knowledge.
The abuse of this principle became stunningly clear with the COVID authoritarianism. They thought they had the perfect excuse to bypass it with their "deadly disease", but the blowback just keeps gathering over time.
"I really can't imagine how Israel SHOULD survive."
Before getting into any of that, it's high time, finally, to create an Israel II. Don't wait. From part of Germany, where it can make sense not just to certain Jews, but to the rest of the world, too. Given what's transpired in 79+ years, we *all* have the right to vote on this.
I'd thought about the east coast of Russia.
Maybe that's another good candidate. Certainly low density like much of Canada.
I don't understand this?
I'm saying that to the extent Germany, as a nation, can be judged the perp inflicting Jews greatest suffering, a sovereign nation should be created from that territory, before any other territory can or could have been justified taking from the indigenous people. Because only Antarctica is actually empty.
Interesting idea. How long before there will be war between both sides?
Considering on the whole the US is keeping them going how about a state in the US?
Actually, yes, the US may be the most practical candidate for a Jewish homeland, IMO. But a lot of stuff needs to be fixed first, starting with the unconstitutional antisemitism laws springing up lately in every state. Maybe Canada, which is even emptier, but as I said, *nowhere* is truly empty. It takes negotiation and compromise and good faith, something Israel (or Zionism in general?) seems highly allergic to.
Good point! But you know they're going to want to force the Gazans there. And they'll probably get it.
I'm sorry, which two sides? Do you mean in US, Democrats and Republicans?
Before the Israelis start antagonizing their neighbours?
Granted, there is now a record here.
Especially as most Jews in Israhell are Ashkenazi, which is basically German Jew, not Semitic Jews. To me it explains why they are so bloodlust cruel.
I don't make any judgments on people on the basis of their unselected and especially immutable characteristics. The only judgments I make are on the basis of their conscious (selected) behavior, regardless of the causes. Everyone finds themselves in circumstances not of their own making.
As a German, I appreciate that…
I had prefaced that with "to the extent Germany, as a nation, can be judged the perp".
I'm open to revisiting the 80-year campaign about all the facts of the Nazi Holocaust, as a number of Jews have raised alarms about it. A society is not free if it does not allow *perpetual* open questioning and debate. There is never finality of conclusions about *anything*, if only because new generations don't have built-in knowledge.
The abuse of this principle became stunningly clear with the COVID authoritarianism. They thought they had the perfect excuse to bypass it with their "deadly disease", but the blowback just keeps gathering over time.