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Jonathan Reece's avatar

Please have a look at __Why You Should Stop Using the Concepts "Left-wing" and "Right-wing"!__

https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/why-you-should-stop-using-the-concepts-a49

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Jeff Thomas Black's avatar

Politics are for rubes and oligarchs, just like all organized crime.

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Jonathan Reece's avatar

Quite so! Just a smattering of history helps! How many know that the CIA recruited the Mafia (and vice versa!) in WW2?

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Starry Gordon's avatar

Quite a few of those who read history. But as for politics, politics is the theory and practice of determining whose will will prevail in a community. Since humans are highly social animals -- it's not a choice -- they form communities of various degrees of cohesion and intimacy, and then they have to make collective choices. There are various methods for doing this and considerable debate as to which are the best. Most human beings cannot avoid this problem; the alternative is living as a hermit and most people don't want to do that. Therefore they must deal with politics.

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Society's Stinky Parts's avatar

That's PMC pietist shit, the middle-class myth of the state as they wish it had happened. The middle class needs people, especially their subordinates, to believe that subordination is natural and that they should feel wrong if they don't feel the need to serve the middle class whims.

The reality is far more varied and more complicated than liberal humbug, and very often involves no personification of the whole cosmos, no "total master" of the kind that idiot Anglos can't seem to get their tongues off of. Read more Graeber.

https://davidgraeber.org/papers/culture-as-creative-refusal/

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Starry Gordon's avatar

I don't know what this refers to.

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Jonathan Reece's avatar

Agreed. I think that the Founding Fathers had the right idea, though, when they tried to arrange things to minimise central government.

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Starry Gordon's avatar

And yet they kept slaves, with all that that implies.

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JackSirius's avatar

The greatest lie ever told in America is that the slaves were freed. Juneteenth my ass. Slavery never ended, it was simply rebranded as jobs. Slave/master became employer/employee, lender/debtor, landlord/renter, oligarch/sheeple. But in a system in which the foundational myth, cosmology, and religion are all based on a dominator god and his dominated creatures, what can we expect?

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Elaine's avatar

Every time reference is made to the Founding Fathers, someone has to interject the old distraction-brainwash of slavery.

So what they had slaves. That was the way things were then.

What's important is what the F. Fathers did, which includes the constitution, which was not good. The constitution was, as I understand it, a complicated means of attaining, by gradual methods, the eventual enslavement of the people.

The proof in in the current pudding.

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Andrew Thomas's avatar

Beautifully written. Thank you.

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Jonathan Reece's avatar

Thank YOU!

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