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Feral Finster's avatar

This is also quite instructive in why the far left and far right may be able to find common ground. Not only because they have the same enemies, but because they can see that there is a problem that mainstream solutions cannot solve and in fact cause, even if they don't agree on the specifics of the solution.

Fact is, lots of solutions can be made to work, in a system not run by sociopaths.

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Starry Gordon's avatar

So why do we maintain sociopaths and give them the keys to the gun locker?

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Feral Finster's avatar

A good question. Because sociopaths are precisely the people who will do whatever it takes to get power.

Shakespeare's Richard III is most instructive in this regard.

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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

But Shakespeare's version of Richard III was the opposite of the REAL Richard III because he couldn't tell the truth about Elizabeth I's grandfather Henry VII, who murdered Richard.

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Feral Finster's avatar

I think you are confusing Richard III with Richard I, aka the Lionhearted.

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DomeLord's avatar

The present day ferociously strong ju-ju of government narratives + the overall imperialistic paradigm through the ages?

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Society's Stinky Parts's avatar

Because secretly we want them to exist so that we have something to virtue signal about.

Really, that's all it is. Participants in a heroic drama never want it to end because they're drunk on passion. Fuck them all and set the dogs among them.

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russian_bot's avatar

"Because secretly we want them to exist..." - for sure there's a segment like that. Far from all, though.

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Starry Gordon's avatar

Oddly, some people seem to have an instinctual aversion to psychopaths. Given their destructive nature, you'd think it would be strongly selected for in Evolution and therefore found more widely distributed. I suppose in some cases the prospective psychopath sucker / fan _wishes_ he could do what the psychopath does, hence, charisma (another mystery).

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Starry Gordon's avatar

Homosexuals may have some particular positive function as such (besides whatever else they may do). Psychopaths strike me as people with something definitely missing.

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Starry Gordon's avatar

People believe in the theory of Evolution through natural selection because of its great explanatory power, the fact that it doesn't require any conditions beyond normal physics, its simplicity and logic, and the fact that no counterexample has thus far been found.

Some of the possible difficulties with the theory (which are marginal cases anyway) like homosexuality, may stem from the curious way people tend to categorize people and behaviors. For example, until fairly recently in history there were no homosexuals. There were sometimes people (and other animals) who engaged in sexual activities with members of the same sex, but it was not an organized institution the way it is today. Famous erotic poets like Sappho and Catullus admired and were attracted to both sexes, said so, and acted accordingly. It would probably be impossible to explain the Stonewall Riots to a person from the ancient world.

Psychopathy -- the depraved indifference to the feelings, welfare and interests of others -- is not something I have figured out yet. It is usually very dangerous for those who suffer from it since they are likely to be killed or driven away by their peers. It may be that Evolution will take care of it in the near future since there seem to be many who have signed up for it.

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Stinky is an adherent of Graeber church. There are many such schools and their followers are a fervent bunch. Try talking to some Jungian or Freudian.

Or a "Christian" for that matter. I used quotes as only followers of infinite protestant and derivative sects would behave that way, the proselytizing scum that they are. No true Catholic or Orthodox should behave in such manner or even identify oneself as a believer.

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Starry Gordon's avatar

In recent national elections, millions of people, under no duress, _voted_ for one or another of the currently prominent psychopaths, and are preparing to do so again next year.

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Starry Gordon's avatar

"No man is an island, intire of itself." However, I do take your meaning as well, if only to contradict myself. The particular "we" in this case refers to the human community. It is true many of us did not vote for or otherwise support psychopaths, but maybe we should have tried harder to deal with them since we're stuck with them anyway.

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Shaggy Snodgrass's avatar

They will not find "common ground", because the far-right seeks the eradication of anything and anyone they choose to describe as "left". There can be no common anything with such, because their central goal will always be mixed into their motives on any level of struggle.

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Feral Finster's avatar

The logic of someone looking for "us" vs "them", of someone determined not to find common ground.

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Shaggy Snodgrass's avatar

You're free to engage with people who are openly calling for your destruction, if you wish. As a "strategy", however, that doesn't have a really good track record for those who do.

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Feral Finster's avatar

You sound hyperbolic. Or more accurately, like someone looking for a reason.

If you haven't noticed, the censorship and repression are coming from Team R these days.

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