Usually the rush to defend DDD isn't "that's not what he said", it's almost always "that's not what he meant".
I got that info in less than 10 seconds. I'm sure you can find the answers to your questions and what was actually stated and what he probably meant in less than 10 minutes of research. Maybe read the Cato piece to kick that off. Respect for acknowledging your trip up, I've been there in the past myself and will surely land there again.
No, I searched for much more than ten minutes; yours, which is still not judged as definitive by me, only took ten seconds. It's harder to find some things than others.
The Atlantic wrote "President Trump defended the white nationalists who protested in Charlottesville on Tuesday, saying they included “some very fine people....” Most definitely not definitive.
Also, a good example of the misuse of the language to besmirch any white person who supports his country: Is every white person who is a nationalist a "white nationalist" with all of the implications that the press is attaching to that combinations of words? If I support my country generally and am white, does that make me a "white nationalist" in the context implied?
PS I do not support the majority of the acts of "my" government, but I love my countrymen and will defend (nearly) all of them if they need defending. Lately, I've been thinking some of them seem quite content that they are able to defend themselves and don't need my help. Chips will fall; let them fall.
When I am shown I am wrong I admit I am wrong. I stand correct in that those words appear to have been spoken, but, still not sure of the report as he is speaking 3rd person. If we had a truly decent press in this country we would all be getting along much better, I think, at least we could agree on things better. Even the things on which we disagree.
When I was young I remember actually disagreeing with people saying that, "I disagree with what you say, but will defend your right to say it." Most Americans believed that and would say that. Today, not so sure. Seems that many Americans believe that disagreeing with them (and/or what they perceive as right) is not merely speaking freely.
The empire will fall one way or another and many will get their wish. I do not like the idea of empire and when it falls we all will suffer. Will we rebuild as something more worthy of a free people?
My impression is you are simply trying too hard to defend so little, politicians are routinely liars serving money.
"besmirch any white person who supports his country" You might consider reflecting on why you think this is a real issue and who told you it is so. It reminds me of my friends telling me they were tired of being called racists. I was thoroughly surprised that would have happened and immediately asked who did it to be answered: "Well, nobody but blah blah BLM blah blah..." This is from filling one's head with shite from the rectangle on their wall pumped in over the coax. Also, society in the USA has successfully internalized "racism is bad/evil" without properly and wholly understanding what racism even is, such that many simplay can't face that they or someone they've chosen to defend to the death are indeed racist and deserve the term.
Sorry so long to reply; I had something important to tend to. [You] Me
[My impression is you are simply trying too hard to defend so little, politicians are routinely liars serving money. "besmirch any white person who supports his country" You might consider reflecting on why you think this is a real issue and who told you it is so.]
Yes, I've seen politicians lie. It is a real issue because there is a press in this country pushing this narrative that white nationalists are dangerous. There are other institutions pushing same, for instance college campuses. Also the President claims that white supremacists pose the greatest threat this nation faces. That coupled with the notion that whiteness is evil or bad or whatever, adds up to, well, did you study your history on scapegoating? Possibly you did not read The Atlantic's words I was addressing?
[It reminds me of my friends telling me they were tired of being called racists. I was thoroughly surprised that would have happened and immediately asked who did it] Why were you surprised?
[to be answered: "Well, nobody but blah blah BLM blah blah..."] Cannot really address what your friends think, blah blah blah. Are they blahists?
[This is from filling one's head with shite from the rectangle on their wall pumped in over the coax. Also, society in the USA has successfully internalized "racism is bad/evil" without properly and wholly understanding what racism even is,] Do, tell. What is racism wholly and properly? Why is it not bad?
[ such that many simplay can't face that they or someone they've chosen to defend to the death are indeed racist and deserve the term.] Examples will set us on a path to discovery. What does the term mean? Who are the indeed racists who deserve the term? What did they say/do to deserve the term?
Usually the rush to defend DDD isn't "that's not what he said", it's almost always "that's not what he meant".
I got that info in less than 10 seconds. I'm sure you can find the answers to your questions and what was actually stated and what he probably meant in less than 10 minutes of research. Maybe read the Cato piece to kick that off. Respect for acknowledging your trip up, I've been there in the past myself and will surely land there again.
No, I searched for much more than ten minutes; yours, which is still not judged as definitive by me, only took ten seconds. It's harder to find some things than others.
For instance, here: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/
The Atlantic wrote "President Trump defended the white nationalists who protested in Charlottesville on Tuesday, saying they included “some very fine people....” Most definitely not definitive.
Also, a good example of the misuse of the language to besmirch any white person who supports his country: Is every white person who is a nationalist a "white nationalist" with all of the implications that the press is attaching to that combinations of words? If I support my country generally and am white, does that make me a "white nationalist" in the context implied?
PS I do not support the majority of the acts of "my" government, but I love my countrymen and will defend (nearly) all of them if they need defending. Lately, I've been thinking some of them seem quite content that they are able to defend themselves and don't need my help. Chips will fall; let them fall.
When I am shown I am wrong I admit I am wrong. I stand correct in that those words appear to have been spoken, but, still not sure of the report as he is speaking 3rd person. If we had a truly decent press in this country we would all be getting along much better, I think, at least we could agree on things better. Even the things on which we disagree.
When I was young I remember actually disagreeing with people saying that, "I disagree with what you say, but will defend your right to say it." Most Americans believed that and would say that. Today, not so sure. Seems that many Americans believe that disagreeing with them (and/or what they perceive as right) is not merely speaking freely.
The empire will fall one way or another and many will get their wish. I do not like the idea of empire and when it falls we all will suffer. Will we rebuild as something more worthy of a free people?
My impression is you are simply trying too hard to defend so little, politicians are routinely liars serving money.
"besmirch any white person who supports his country" You might consider reflecting on why you think this is a real issue and who told you it is so. It reminds me of my friends telling me they were tired of being called racists. I was thoroughly surprised that would have happened and immediately asked who did it to be answered: "Well, nobody but blah blah BLM blah blah..." This is from filling one's head with shite from the rectangle on their wall pumped in over the coax. Also, society in the USA has successfully internalized "racism is bad/evil" without properly and wholly understanding what racism even is, such that many simplay can't face that they or someone they've chosen to defend to the death are indeed racist and deserve the term.
Should people be concerned about this? Divide and conquer, perhaps?
Barack and Michelle Obama are producers on the film.
https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1734283702111478248?s=20
Sorry so long to reply; I had something important to tend to. [You] Me
[My impression is you are simply trying too hard to defend so little, politicians are routinely liars serving money. "besmirch any white person who supports his country" You might consider reflecting on why you think this is a real issue and who told you it is so.]
Yes, I've seen politicians lie. It is a real issue because there is a press in this country pushing this narrative that white nationalists are dangerous. There are other institutions pushing same, for instance college campuses. Also the President claims that white supremacists pose the greatest threat this nation faces. That coupled with the notion that whiteness is evil or bad or whatever, adds up to, well, did you study your history on scapegoating? Possibly you did not read The Atlantic's words I was addressing?
[It reminds me of my friends telling me they were tired of being called racists. I was thoroughly surprised that would have happened and immediately asked who did it] Why were you surprised?
[to be answered: "Well, nobody but blah blah BLM blah blah..."] Cannot really address what your friends think, blah blah blah. Are they blahists?
[This is from filling one's head with shite from the rectangle on their wall pumped in over the coax. Also, society in the USA has successfully internalized "racism is bad/evil" without properly and wholly understanding what racism even is,] Do, tell. What is racism wholly and properly? Why is it not bad?
[ such that many simplay can't face that they or someone they've chosen to defend to the death are indeed racist and deserve the term.] Examples will set us on a path to discovery. What does the term mean? Who are the indeed racists who deserve the term? What did they say/do to deserve the term?