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Brigadoon's avatar

That's a nice thought- but umfortunately for us it is exactly the kind of naive sentiment that has gotten us Goyim into such a terrible mess. It is time to face a very stark reality, or continue to stand aside, watching in horror as the Jews coninue their savage rampage from the river to the sea, and beyond. The truth is an overwhelming majority of Jews (81% according to recent Jewish Times poll) are enthusiastic supporters of the continued mass murder of innocents.

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Fran's avatar

Happening in America, lot of marches lots of Jewish people marching against what is going on in Palestine, and I'm sure in Israel as well. Sometimes there is little to coverage of those who speak out. During the US wars, I marched, and marched, and too often not reported, Called and wrote and it seemed to make little difference as it did for so many.

In Grief And Under Pressure, A Growing Number Of American Jews Protest Israeli Military Action

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israel-hamas-gaza-american-jews-protest-demonstrate-military-action_n_6542a229e4b06bc01e22c46c

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@smokygirl2006's avatar

Yes, I have seen this too. For example, Jewish Voices for Peace who have said “Never again means never again for ANYONE.

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gypsy33's avatar

Not the same thing, Fran.

These people only want a ceasefire in order to recover the “hostages”.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

Yes, very true. Currently, Israel has a "Right", "Far-Right" and "Extreme-Right" (as per Gideon Levy). There is almost a non-existent "Center" or anything remotely resembling a "Left" in Israeli society currently.

And that is going to be a huge problem in the region for generations to come.

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Fran's avatar

"Mass protests have taken place around Israel, with demonstrators calling for the return of Israeli captives held in Gaza, the removal of Prime Minister Netanyahu’s government and an end to the war in Gaza." I'm sure there are many maybe not most are against what their government is doing in Gaza, Gypsy why would think that all Jews in Israel and the US support this genocide?

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Mike Fish's avatar

You’re “sure” of a “lot” aren’t you Fran.

You throw around meaningless terms like many, and alot, alot.

Do you feel verbally abused now, Fran?

Because, I’m not going along with your “opinion”?

You realize that this assault upon Palestine, by the Jewish state of Israel started 75+ years ago, not just this past fall, don’t you Fran?

Where have these many/alot of Jews who don’t approve of what Israel is doing AGAIN been hiding until now?

What is it that you say it is that makes one a Jew, Fran?

If I understood that, maybe I could make sense of what you are saying.

I am saying that the Jewish state of Israel has no right to exist.

It’s invention was a crime against the people already living there.

You aren’t pro-crime are you, Fran?

What if all Christians demanded a nation of their own?

Muslims?

Futball worshippers?

Do we displace, and kill all of the people located where those groups feel like settling, also?

Oops, sounds like the United States and Israel to me.

What does it sound like to you?

Are you capable of hearing, something besides the voice in your own head?

Questions are beautiful things.

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Fran's avatar

You know fish you make a lot assumptions, and do you know what they say about people who do? They make an ass of themselves, and I guess it's already happened to you, since so much crap comes out your mouth. I'm a poet too, who knew.

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Mike Fish's avatar

Typical Fran, avoidance, non response, nonsense.

Fran, however, makes no assumptions.

She has all the facts.

I guess that you only approve of verbal abuse when you’re the one dishing it out, Fran.

You’d be amusing, if the subject matter wasn’t so serious, and deadly.

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Fran's avatar

Ernesto I'm surprised that you can't see the underlying demmeaning attitude he adopts when addressing me. . He didn't simply list facts.

Mike Fish

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You’re “sure” of a “lot” aren’t you Fran.

You throw around meaningless terms like many, and alot, alot.

Do you feel verbally abused now, Fran?

Can't you see the tone he adopts when addressing me, the demeaning tone he uses? Not to mention I have been very aware of what is going on in Palestine for many years. I have never been anything but supportive of their position. His purpose is not to inform me, but to demean me. I'm sorry you can't see that, I can and I won't tolerate it. You can look through my previous posts on this issue, and I have always been supportive of the Palestinians, and have total contempt for Netanyahu,

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi Mike

I just declared the state of Michigan a place for horse-lovers only, where one is required to own one or more horses, since the noble horse constitutes a significant portion of my religion.

Everybody else….OUT.

Think that’ll work? 😉

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Mike Fish's avatar

Michigan?

The birthplace of the american auto industry?

I love it.

No owning horses though.

You and I don’t own other creatures, we just care for them, and befriend them.

We ain’t capitalists.

I know a four legged creature, and he’s the best friend I’ve got, and he knows it, cause I show it.

You’re idea has merit.

Just don’t bomb the current residents of Michigan into submission, ok.

That shit don’t work.

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gypsy33's avatar

Agree Mike… we are CARETAKERS, not “owners”!

My late Angelina was my best friend, not just a horse “that I owned.”

And we’ve got a bit of a start here, Mike: Mackinaw Island, where no cars are allowed, only horses and bicycles 🙂

I don’t intend to ban cars, just wean folks gradually away from their use, until every sees the inestimable pleasure of horses!

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Mike Fish's avatar

Mackinaw Island.

I took my parents there for their 50th anniversary.

It was awesome.

Their granddaughters loved it too.

Lotsa fudge!!!

Good shit.

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Mathew Neville's avatar

Some people are superior to others ---- isn't that obvious ?????

Cheap Real Estate to be available in Palestine for people who qualify !!!!

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JennyStokes's avatar

You are correct Fran. At the moment MSN is so bad on reporting protests. They don't want to hear Jewish people protesting.

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gypsy33's avatar

Fran? Really.

Do you seriously believe that the IsraHelli government would allow such protests?

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Fran's avatar

Yes, and many, no, most can't stand Netanyahu.

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Paula's avatar

I think it was Max Blumenthal who said (& maybe Ali Abunimah too) that Israelis don't get to see the horrendous videos from Gaza that we in the West get to see & so aren't as well -informed as we are. Although I don't claim to know the truth & certainly do not want to excuse Zionists &/or Israelis in general, I must say this situation is clearly advantageous for Israeli propagandists who can point to large numbers (77-80%?) of Israelis who think the IDF isn't doing enough to destroy Hamas.

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Kathleen Temple's avatar

Then I wanna train my own eyes on the 19% who do NOT want the massacres.

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dubbydove1@yahoo.com's avatar

I am not in favor of mass murder of innocents whatever label they may wear. But don't worry, no matter how hard they try, the Israelis could never even come close to the genocidal record that the Christians proudly wear.

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Brigadoon's avatar

You may not have the intellectual flexibility to reframe the context of your beliefs, but the truth is all 3 Judaic- Christian religions are constructs designed by the very same tribe, deliberately designed to perpetuate strife and to ultimately to set all other races against each other. Insidious control of others is the game.

But even putting that aside, Christianity pales in comparison to the Jews for historical body count, once you get through a few layers of their obsfucation of the facts, that is.

Buckle up- here's a little primer on just one epoch, if you dare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3mr0rsNyGs

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dubbydove1@yahoo.com's avatar

Not really interested in engaging with anti-semitic mouthbeathers who seem to be Ms. Johnstone's new stock in trade. Disappointing to discover. The Jews comprise just 2% of the world population, Christians and Muslims - those who followed the Jews into patriarchal servitude, comprise just about half. The fact that so many can live in terror of so few is appalling/amazing,depressing. Is it our intelligence you fear? Most of us use it for good - like Jesus. Kind of like someone 10 feet tall fearing someone 4 feet tall. We must be very powerful..

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Brigadoon's avatar

you think I care what you think. That's hilarious.

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hierochloe's avatar

"the Christians proudly wear" hey maybe not fall for reactionary bigotry in defense against bigotry - Israel (not to be confused with "the Jews") is still going to be leading the 21st century leaderboard for a while at this rate

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