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Susan T's avatar

I went to a demo today. One of the chants was "Gaza Gaza, don't you cry, we will never let you die". We won't let them die, but so many children and others die anyway. Such an empty and painful feeling. I wish our leaders could feel it. Somehow they don't. We can say they are monsters and on and on, but really, for me, I just don't really understand how so many people who could stop this vile insanity, don't.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Because we are ruled by sociopaths.

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Chang Chokaski's avatar

...and psychopaths. Is there anything worse than sociopaths and psychopaths? If so, it applies to Zionists and all these people that support the Genocide.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

You regularly make this assertion, a pretty accurate one, in my opinion; but I feel like lots of folks prefer not to admit to it because it's ultimately a truly painful realization.

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Susan T's avatar

It's a painful realization because it is very difficult to stop them when they are sociopaths and psychopaths with more money than anyone needs, who have taken power and set themselves up so that it is very difficult for anyone else to diminish them without risking imprisonment or death.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Absolutely true from a pragmatic angle. But I need to at least admit the truth to myself in order that my detestation for their destructive qualities clear my own amygdaloid brain registers periodically. I surely don't have enough money or influence to effectuate anything significant, else I'd certainly wish to rain helllfire on their privileged asses.

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Susan T's avatar

When I was younger, I was anti war then too. I read about the holocaust. Watched all 9 hours of Shoah. I thought that was history, never to be repeated. But now I have had my own children and now grandchildren and I see all those people in Gaza losing their children and children losing their parents and for what? So some power monger with an alcoholic wife can continue to live in luxury and feel superior. Seeing this and hearing about it now makes me feel as if I am shriveling up inside. Before it was opposing war. Now it is opposing inhumanity that I I naiively hoped had gone with the Nazis.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Susan, When I first listened to the song, "On the Day the Nazi Died", and its final verse, last line: "We'll never rest again until every Nazi dies", I interpreted it just a bit tongue in cheek, as though its reference were to the ongoing spirit of fascism, clearly still around. Then it became clear that the Azovs in Ukraine were actual dyed-in-the-wool Nazis in the worst tradition of the word. I'm now convinced that pockets -- perhaps significant ones -- of these monsters fester throughout the world. Which I should've really known because I've read pretty extensively about other European clusters like the Croatian Ustashi. And now, naturally, I include both Jewish and Christian Zionists -- the ZioNazis -- in that category -- that's quite a large group right there. And so I think the song is correct:

So if you meet with these historians I'll tell you what to say

Tell them that the Nazis never really went away

They're out there burning houses down and peddling racist lies

And we'll never rest again until every Nazi dies

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JennyStokes's avatar

Looks like Israel is imploding anyway BUT where will all these butchers go?

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

Hades? Ninth circle hopefully.

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denise ward's avatar

It wouldn't be hard to stop them or at least put a spanner in their works. But too many have no courage, they just want to be "boutique activists". This is how we could make them stay up at night - a lot of us with loans stop paying interest on those loans. Keep 50% of the saved money for yourself and give 50% of it to someone you know or some local person or organization. This will be sustaining money which will go to them every month rather than go to the banks. That will have the effect of bolstering our own lives and communities and having more people support this action. But that's if you're serious. Most other ways are lame and will do zip.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Shutting down Mainstream Media will give them a lot less power.

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CK's avatar

The mainstream mass media is owned by a very few billionaires who publish their propaganda in newspapers, magazines, over-the-air radio and television, cable or streaming radio/television, and “social media”.

Legitimate professional journalists are becoming scarce. Some have been targeted for assassination. Dozens have been killed by Israeli snipers in Gaza.

Journalism is now a very dangerous profession.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Well here is me: Dreaming Jenny.

I get so many vile remarks and sometimes it hurts. But I have pointed out numerous times: Why are you protesting in the streets

Protest outside Mainstream Media/shut them down

AS for Congress: A few seeds of Poison Oak/Ivy brought in by cleaners OR even better the above seeds placed in the 'air systems.'

You ALL talk about what we can do!

We do not have Poison Oak/Ivy here in Europe.

I was out in my garden weeding and suddenly I found my hands and legs were red and itchy. Went in the shower which made everything worse.

Make these people suffer like I did. I guess they all have Gardeners?

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Feral Finster's avatar

If I were to start believing anything else, I would quickly become prey or used as a subject for medical experiments.

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JennyStokes's avatar

We are ALL prey here in the Western world. I have enough pills to kill me/dog/cats/husband.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

That would indeed be the lesson of history: Ignore this at your own peril!

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Feral Finster's avatar

Not only are we ruled by sociopaths, this is inevitable over time.

Learn well The Iron Law Of Oligarchy and The Iron Law Of Institutions. Take them to heart. Power is to sociopaths what catnip is to cats. Not only that, but sociopaths are precisely the people who will do Whatever It Takes to gain power.

This is why, after some 5,000 years or so of recorded human history, one can find successful examples of all kinds of societies, and all of these societies eventually fail, as the sociopaths take over.

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I'd reiterate this as a painful realization, but what would be the point. We see the outcome all around us in personal relationships. I've witnessed one partner in a marriage, a close woman friend, after reading about the sociopaths' characteristics and recognizing them in her husband, nevertheless blow it off because of the slick mental chains that group is so skilled at winding around their victims. Breaking free of the influence of someone with these enslaving powers is a bitch. Not many are even capable of the recognition, much less doing anything to resist.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I have written so many times "How to resist." But nobody pays attention!

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Vin LoPresti's avatar

You have, indeed, Jenny. We're all beaten down over here. I wish I had a definitive terminal disease rather than the slow deteriorative crap I'm imprisoned in. I'd suggest giving me a 9-gram delivery device and somehow placing me in the immediate vicinity of Milekowsky. But please don't quote me; I'm sure some mofo is listening. And I may be a natural born citizen free of felonious criminal record, but I doubt anyone is safe at this juncture . . . in the "land of the free".

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JennyStokes's avatar

I was looking to the future when I requested "additional sleeping pills" from my beloved Psychiatrist here in France. 12yrs with him...he knows me well.

Absolutely no-one is safe. BUT the morons don't know this!

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CK's avatar

Historians Will and Ariel Durant published a short book, The Lessons of History, approximately 60 years ago. It’s worth reading. Free PDF versions are available online.

Throughout Western history of the past 5000 years, whenever the inequality of wealth and power accrue to small cadre at the expense and suffering of the masses, the masses eventually revolt and overthrow the oppressors. That’s existentially necessary for the oppressed masses.

One big difference, today, is that the Earth cannot sustain a human population of 8 Billion persons, indefinitely. A related big difference is climate catastrophe that may or may not address the excess population issue.

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CK's avatar

The US Congress has had the legal authority and moral responsibility to end the supply of weapons of mass destruction to Israel for more than 75 years. Too many members of Congress are “owned” by Zionist sponsors. Note that Zionists and Jews are not synonymous. Many devout Jews have been opposed to the invasions and atrocities against the Palestinians. They don’t get much publicity in the mass media, much of which is also owned by Zionists.

All concerned Americans must protest, frequently, to their members of Congress. Once or twice is not enough. The professional Zionist lobbyists are in the halls of Congress, daily or weekly.

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denise ward's avatar

But the members of congress are all obligated to AIPAC. They are the cause of all this, and all our wars and our poisoning. You must see reality for what it is - they are not there for us, they just pretend to be because they are all actors. Those who rule them are faceless. It's useless doing things the same way over and over. They haven't worked!

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CK's avatar

Members of Congress will respond when they are inundated by calls, visits, letters and protests from 3-4% of their constituents. That will vastly outnumber the professional lobbyists who pester or attempt to bribe Congress of a daily or weekly basis. Members of Congress fear the collective force of their constituents.

Note that bosses fear the collective forces of labor unions.

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Susan T's avatar

Yes, all that is true. Except that the US Congress does not apply the law to themselves unless it might benefit them financially or with more power. Morality is something they seem to invent as they go along. Members of the US Congress and members of many other government bodies are owned by Zionists. In my mind Zionism and Judaism are not even close to the same thing. I don't like religion and I don't especially like Judaism as a religion either. Or Islam. Or Christianity. But if people are religious, that is their choice as far as I am concerned. Zionism is pretty much the same as Nazism in my mind. It is not a religion. It is a right wing, facist ideology.

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CK's avatar

Zionists are not true Christians, Muslims or Jews, Any who may claim to be are hypocrites, as are a majority of the current members of the US Congress.

However, there are some members of Congress who are opposed to the Zionist ambitions. It is the duty of all concerned citizens to demand that Congress must stop supporting the Zionist agenda.

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JennyStokes's avatar

DO something to stop Mainstream Media.

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JennyStokes's avatar

We all know this: IF you want to make a difference: SHUT DOWN your Mainstream Media. How difficult is it to find a cable that provides you with non-stop propaganda? Dig it up and cut it!

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