"A peaceful resolution isn’t impossible, it just isn’t desired."
And herein lies the crux of the problem: The genociders just don't want to stop massacring civilians, killing kids, bombing babies... It's all a big game to them, and they think they're going to somehow "win" it. But there's no winning in genocide--those who commit it lose. Their culture is forever linked to genocide and smeared with the blood of innocents. If the Israelis were sane, they'd see how they were destroying themselves and stop, but I'm afraid the evidence doesn't prove their sanity. Their enablers demonstrate their insanity by not preventing the genocide in the first place. There's alot of crazies to lock up on this rock.
There's a very real possibility these "crazies" may take us all down with them. But then again, no one gets out of this alive in the long run anyway. Maybe Hendrix was right about life?
Jamenta, destroying humankind through nuclear war just might be Nature’s way of resetting the planet. Mother Earth will recover eventually; she can take anything that’s thrown at her.
My heart breaks though for the innocent animals we’ll take down with us.
You may be right. But there is also a nihilistic part of me wondering if life is just some kind of joke upon us all ... Meanwhile, how many children will the Israeli IDF Nazis massacre today with American supplied bombs?
I understand your position and feelings. I have not concluded that yet, and I don't think it's because I'm just stupid or deluded. I think there are some reasons to keep hoping. ps: Just because there is suffering and clear injustice, does not prove more cannot exist - or consciousness is more than what some will insist it must be. Frederic Myer's work first comes to my mind - and he did good work. Hodgson's and William James' work with Mrs. Piper. More contemporary is the work of cardiologist Pim von Lommel and scientist Sam Parnia.
One fundamental belief most spiritual traditions maintain - is the idea of a soul. Inviolate and non-perishable. That is, the body itself is just a vehicle for the soul. Materialism has yet to prove the soul does not exist. Consciousness remains a mystery to science and human philosophy. Science has not proven materialism (at all). Ontology regarding consciousness remains an open question.
Yes it does. However, I don't think the case is entirely closed yet on the issue - at least in my own mind. There remain a number of significant open ontological questions regarding the nature of our existence, especially consciousness. The mystery remains.
This is interesting that even when one is helping their country implement a genocide one must be careful to follow religious law and they are going to set up a rabbinical court to make it easy on woman should their husbands die so they can get them a quick get. Thoughtful
"Israel to set up special rabbinical court for religious divorce during war: Report
The court, announced by Israel’s chief rabbi David Lau, will help women who have lost husbands in the Gaza war, streamline divorce proceedings, the Jerusalem Post reports.
Under Jewish religious law, there are stringent conditions for divorce, including for the husband to present a final bill of divorce, called a get. Without this document, women are left in limbo, unable to remarry. The restriction does not apply to men who have lost their wives."
In special circumstances, such as the death of a husband, religious courts can bypass the document and grant a divorce themselves, but they are often wary of doing so.
Not all Jews are supporting the genocide. And within the Judaic religion, there are many variations and interpretations. Most of the major religions extant have many different types of denominations and moral views - some more orthodox than others.
It's like the cretin Macron - many in France still see him as some kind of savior on the Left. Others, dislike his decisions even though they remain in the same party.
We must be careful of generalizing an entire group of people (or religion) like the Israelis have done to the Palestinians - just because they happen to be stuck in a place and time and subject to brainwashing not of their choosing. Also, one sex is not superior to another sex.
Hang on. You are 'generalizing' about the French. FYI Macron is NOT left. I wish you American could distinguish between right and left. He is to the left of Joe Biden. We have many party's in France!
Well, just interesting no matter the religion, Jewish, Catholic, whatever. It's seems strange that one is meticulous about following the tenants of one's religious doctrines as a genocide is taking place in your country.
I think many people's sense of self worth and identity become tied to their belief systems and what they think this life we are living is all about. It can be difficult to free oneself from "oneself". Caitlin has written about this need for self-realization. Maybe what is happening here is consciousness is trying to learn. Many spiritual traditions view earth as a kind of school.
But maybe the nihilists are right. Life is just an accidental farce, and free-will is a fantasy and when it comes down to it, we're all just biological automatons in a universe that couldn't really give a damn if we existed or not.
I sure don't have the answers to this. I'm not some kind of all knowing guru. I do draw a redline though when it comes to genocide - for whatever raison d'etres are obscenely used to justify mass murder, whether it comes from religion or secularism.
Well, my parents were raised Catholic but they didn't raise us Catholic, so in that regard I'm on my own. Good. I always thought war was crazy, I mean grown ups killing each other, and I couldn't give my brother a smack when he broke my toys. I don't think of life as a farce, and although not raised in any religious faith I always thought I had a soul that didn't belong to me, and the only thing I had to do was protect it, and let it guide me in my perception of things, and it certainly is loud and clear about war. There was a clip on Aljazeera of a child, no more then 10, 11, or 13. She was in the hospital with a leg amputated, alone, her father, mother and siblings all gone. She said she wanted to be a doctor and care about people when she grew up, but that won't happen because she died. I'm glad nothing life that is on my soul.
Just seemed odd that at the time their country is perpetrating a genocide, killing so many women and children, easy targets, and so vulnerable they should be concerned about gets.
I agree. But how do we solve the conflict by insisting on ignoring 100 years of Arab intransigence and violence? And will the west admit its own responsibilities here?
Intransigence? As in hey, that’s my farm, my family has tilled that soil for centuries. You can’t have it no matter what the effing British say. Ooo. I see you just shot all my animals and burned down my olive tress. Well yes, I guess I’ll go. But I’ll be back. And intransigent.
What Arab intransigence are you referring to, since your statement is all inclusive when it comes to Arabs, kind of like talking about all blacks being the same. Paddy your statement sounds highly prejudicial. I don't know if you are an American, or if you are Israeli, and if you are an American you should be very concerned about America's violence past and present on a world wide level either overtly through our many wars, or covertly through the activities of the CIA. if Israeli, be concerned about a genocide now being implemented by them not only in Gaza, but the West Bank as well, Israel cares little about who dies in their genocidal attack in Gaza, , men, women, children. Also reflect back on their history and be concerned about a Jewish state given the land of the Palestinians and through the years killing them off, remember reading about the Nakba? I guess people get tired of being locked up in an outdoor concentration camp with no sense of a future experiencing the absolute contempt of the people who put them there and who see them as subhuman. It is not the Arabs I am worried about.
Thank you for giving these horrors a mention. Everyone is always so…”but THIS time it’s really bad” just because the last one slipped their mind. And don’t forget Bangladesh. The pictures coming out of there were eye and mind abuse. Or the facts of Pol Pot—all American, all CIA, all the time.
"A peaceful resolution isn’t impossible, it just isn’t desired."
And herein lies the crux of the problem: The genociders just don't want to stop massacring civilians, killing kids, bombing babies... It's all a big game to them, and they think they're going to somehow "win" it. But there's no winning in genocide--those who commit it lose. Their culture is forever linked to genocide and smeared with the blood of innocents. If the Israelis were sane, they'd see how they were destroying themselves and stop, but I'm afraid the evidence doesn't prove their sanity. Their enablers demonstrate their insanity by not preventing the genocide in the first place. There's alot of crazies to lock up on this rock.
There's a very real possibility these "crazies" may take us all down with them. But then again, no one gets out of this alive in the long run anyway. Maybe Hendrix was right about life?
Jamenta, destroying humankind through nuclear war just might be Nature’s way of resetting the planet. Mother Earth will recover eventually; she can take anything that’s thrown at her.
My heart breaks though for the innocent animals we’ll take down with us.
You may be right. But there is also a nihilistic part of me wondering if life is just some kind of joke upon us all ... Meanwhile, how many children will the Israeli IDF Nazis massacre today with American supplied bombs?
And yet, humankind continues to ponder the “meaning of life”, Jamenta.
What was the meaning for newborns left to die in their incubators?
It truly makes one wonder if there is indeed any “meaning”.
There is NO meaning to life. I have been talking and pondering this question for years. You get born, work hard, get ill and get dead!
Then what's the point? Specifically the question to you, since you've come to those conclusions - why not take a shortcut?
I understand your position and feelings. I have not concluded that yet, and I don't think it's because I'm just stupid or deluded. I think there are some reasons to keep hoping. ps: Just because there is suffering and clear injustice, does not prove more cannot exist - or consciousness is more than what some will insist it must be. Frederic Myer's work first comes to my mind - and he did good work. Hodgson's and William James' work with Mrs. Piper. More contemporary is the work of cardiologist Pim von Lommel and scientist Sam Parnia.
One fundamental belief most spiritual traditions maintain - is the idea of a soul. Inviolate and non-perishable. That is, the body itself is just a vehicle for the soul. Materialism has yet to prove the soul does not exist. Consciousness remains a mystery to science and human philosophy. Science has not proven materialism (at all). Ontology regarding consciousness remains an open question.
Yep Jenny, “Life’s a bitch and then you die!”
I respectfully disagree.
"if God doesn't exist, then everything is permitted" -- Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov
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Yes it does. However, I don't think the case is entirely closed yet on the issue - at least in my own mind. There remain a number of significant open ontological questions regarding the nature of our existence, especially consciousness. The mystery remains.
This is interesting that even when one is helping their country implement a genocide one must be careful to follow religious law and they are going to set up a rabbinical court to make it easy on woman should their husbands die so they can get them a quick get. Thoughtful
"Israel to set up special rabbinical court for religious divorce during war: Report
The court, announced by Israel’s chief rabbi David Lau, will help women who have lost husbands in the Gaza war, streamline divorce proceedings, the Jerusalem Post reports.
Under Jewish religious law, there are stringent conditions for divorce, including for the husband to present a final bill of divorce, called a get. Without this document, women are left in limbo, unable to remarry. The restriction does not apply to men who have lost their wives."
In special circumstances, such as the death of a husband, religious courts can bypass the document and grant a divorce themselves, but they are often wary of doing so.
Not all Jews are supporting the genocide. And within the Judaic religion, there are many variations and interpretations. Most of the major religions extant have many different types of denominations and moral views - some more orthodox than others.
It's like the cretin Macron - many in France still see him as some kind of savior on the Left. Others, dislike his decisions even though they remain in the same party.
We must be careful of generalizing an entire group of people (or religion) like the Israelis have done to the Palestinians - just because they happen to be stuck in a place and time and subject to brainwashing not of their choosing. Also, one sex is not superior to another sex.
Hang on. You are 'generalizing' about the French. FYI Macron is NOT left. I wish you American could distinguish between right and left. He is to the left of Joe Biden. We have many party's in France!
I've been to France, Jenny, as well as many other places. Nothing special about it. Would you quit flaunting it?
RB, I believe Jenny was correctly pointing out that “left” in Europe is on a completely different scale than “left” in Amerikkka.
“Right” Europe is more equivalent to “Left” in the United Snakes.
If I’m correct, Jenny isn’t French by birth, I believe that she moved there.
Well done Russian bot. You do not live here I do.
Don't talk to me about 'flaunting' it should be interesting!
It's hard to know these days - but he sold himself as a man for the people, of which he is not.
Who did?
Well, just interesting no matter the religion, Jewish, Catholic, whatever. It's seems strange that one is meticulous about following the tenants of one's religious doctrines as a genocide is taking place in your country.
I think many people's sense of self worth and identity become tied to their belief systems and what they think this life we are living is all about. It can be difficult to free oneself from "oneself". Caitlin has written about this need for self-realization. Maybe what is happening here is consciousness is trying to learn. Many spiritual traditions view earth as a kind of school.
But maybe the nihilists are right. Life is just an accidental farce, and free-will is a fantasy and when it comes down to it, we're all just biological automatons in a universe that couldn't really give a damn if we existed or not.
I sure don't have the answers to this. I'm not some kind of all knowing guru. I do draw a redline though when it comes to genocide - for whatever raison d'etres are obscenely used to justify mass murder, whether it comes from religion or secularism.
Well, my parents were raised Catholic but they didn't raise us Catholic, so in that regard I'm on my own. Good. I always thought war was crazy, I mean grown ups killing each other, and I couldn't give my brother a smack when he broke my toys. I don't think of life as a farce, and although not raised in any religious faith I always thought I had a soul that didn't belong to me, and the only thing I had to do was protect it, and let it guide me in my perception of things, and it certainly is loud and clear about war. There was a clip on Aljazeera of a child, no more then 10, 11, or 13. She was in the hospital with a leg amputated, alone, her father, mother and siblings all gone. She said she wanted to be a doctor and care about people when she grew up, but that won't happen because she died. I'm glad nothing life that is on my soul.
How can one get a divorce if the husband is dead?
Well, it says she is free to remarry,and no marital ties.
But but her husband is DEAD!
I'm not Jewish, but from what I was told that's how I interpreted what was meant. I am not Jewish so I will never go to get a get.
“... to make it easy on woman should their husbands die so they can get them a quick get.”
That has always been Jewish law. See the story of Bathsheba.
Just seemed odd that at the time their country is perpetrating a genocide, killing so many women and children, easy targets, and so vulnerable they should be concerned about gets.
I agree. But how do we solve the conflict by insisting on ignoring 100 years of Arab intransigence and violence? And will the west admit its own responsibilities here?
Fuck that shit.
Intransigence? As in hey, that’s my farm, my family has tilled that soil for centuries. You can’t have it no matter what the effing British say. Ooo. I see you just shot all my animals and burned down my olive tress. Well yes, I guess I’ll go. But I’ll be back. And intransigent.
What Arab intransigence are you referring to, since your statement is all inclusive when it comes to Arabs, kind of like talking about all blacks being the same. Paddy your statement sounds highly prejudicial. I don't know if you are an American, or if you are Israeli, and if you are an American you should be very concerned about America's violence past and present on a world wide level either overtly through our many wars, or covertly through the activities of the CIA. if Israeli, be concerned about a genocide now being implemented by them not only in Gaza, but the West Bank as well, Israel cares little about who dies in their genocidal attack in Gaza, , men, women, children. Also reflect back on their history and be concerned about a Jewish state given the land of the Palestinians and through the years killing them off, remember reading about the Nakba? I guess people get tired of being locked up in an outdoor concentration camp with no sense of a future experiencing the absolute contempt of the people who put them there and who see them as subhuman. It is not the Arabs I am worried about.
Thank you for giving these horrors a mention. Everyone is always so…”but THIS time it’s really bad” just because the last one slipped their mind. And don’t forget Bangladesh. The pictures coming out of there were eye and mind abuse. Or the facts of Pol Pot—all American, all CIA, all the time.