I agree our dominant society needs a reset - for so many reasons. I respectfully disagree it has always been this way - or all societies carry out or tacitly tolerate such unconscionable actions by their rulers.
Wherever you are - when push comes to shove you won't recognize your family, your neighbors, etc. What's happening right now doesn't mean something happened to people. People have always been that way. The crisis just exposed it. Same as always.
People, by which you mean all, can be naturally evil, selfish, murderous etc but that requires the necessary environment and circumstances. Equally the moral opposite is true. What has changed are tipping points in disenpowerment, enpowerment and manipulation. Humans are a crude lot but not naturally and essentially as you describe. That view is a goal of systems like capitalism. Do resist it, good bot!
You describe a very simplistic and idealistic dichotomy. Without going into details I'll just say that proper religions figured it out long ago. If only militant atheists had less hubris and paid more attention.
I don't think that I have, actually; quite the opposite of a dichotomy. I say that people contain multitudes and are responsive to conditions. If anything, you descrive a simplistic monotomy: people are and have always been bad. I don't buy it
But militant athiests... agreed... they are too wrapped up in their unprovable beliefs. Ironic, huh?
I agree our dominant society needs a reset - for so many reasons. I respectfully disagree it has always been this way - or all societies carry out or tacitly tolerate such unconscionable actions by their rulers.
Wherever you are - when push comes to shove you won't recognize your family, your neighbors, etc. What's happening right now doesn't mean something happened to people. People have always been that way. The crisis just exposed it. Same as always.
Disagree that your generalisation holds.
People, by which you mean all, can be naturally evil, selfish, murderous etc but that requires the necessary environment and circumstances. Equally the moral opposite is true. What has changed are tipping points in disenpowerment, enpowerment and manipulation. Humans are a crude lot but not naturally and essentially as you describe. That view is a goal of systems like capitalism. Do resist it, good bot!
You describe a very simplistic and idealistic dichotomy. Without going into details I'll just say that proper religions figured it out long ago. If only militant atheists had less hubris and paid more attention.
I don't think that I have, actually; quite the opposite of a dichotomy. I say that people contain multitudes and are responsive to conditions. If anything, you descrive a simplistic monotomy: people are and have always been bad. I don't buy it
But militant athiests... agreed... they are too wrapped up in their unprovable beliefs. Ironic, huh?
maybe one can understand the pushing and shoving mechanisms and explain.