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Slightly Lucid's avatar

Yeah, we kind of do. Year after year, we are offered a shit sandwich or a puke salad, and anything appetizing is taken off the menu. This is especially true for the Democrats.

We were brought to this situation by a series of Supreme Court decisions which made corporations people, money speech, and ruled that the parties are not accountable to their voters and essentially private corporations/

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russian_bot's avatar

"Yeah, we kind of do." - how so?

Explain in detail. Since you are not forced physically to vote and not threatened by any government action - no fines, no nothing. If you're an American, that is.

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Slightly Lucid's avatar

Bot - your point is that we live in a democracy because we are allowed to vote. My point is that we are given two consistently odious choices of who we may vote for (or we can sit it out) - and as it turns out, the two odious choices we vote for are owned by the same corporations, and will do what those corporate entities tell them to do. The difference will largely be about style.

The choice between Coke and Pepsi is irrelevant. It's still high-fructose corn syrup.

This is not democracy. In fact, it's not even really consumer choice.

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russian_bot's avatar

"your point is that we live in a democracy because we are allowed to vote." - no, that's not my point.

My point is that you have government that reflects the desires of the majority of the population. That's democracy, isn't it? The majority rules?

If that weren't so then the government would be different. Through whatever means.

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Slightly Lucid's avatar

Oh man. This is my last response on this. The government does NOT reflect the desires of the voters. That’s the problem. Most voters, regardless of party affiliation, either vote for the least awful or just don’t vote. The distance between what voters want and what the political class gives has never been greater.

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Salvatore Monella's avatar

No, this government broadly reflects the will of the people, and is generally responsive to their wishes. You may not like where that leads, but tough shit. Have a better idea, make a better case, convince people to change. It's not the system, or the voters, which are the problem. It's you.

Moreover, the gap between what government is doing and what the people want is a driver of politics. But I'm going to assume it's running in the opposite direction of what you want, so you ignore it. That dissatisfaction is embodied in the campaign of DJT.

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