Honestly the so called green agenda is a depopulation agenda that hides behind environmentalism and instilling fear and guilt in the people. War achieves the same objective. That is what makes it acceptable and off limits to massive protest and boycotting that would otherwise be promoted by the neo liberal establishment. How is it the anti war left of the Vietnam era are now so silent? Because the establishment propaganda and narrative will not give any support to the peace/ antiwar movement.
I think a big part of the "green agenda" is making money. Many of us from the Vietnam era are still opposing wars, including, of course, the genocide in Gaza. Many are dead which does tend to silence them. The establishment propaganda has never given support to the peace/antiwar movement. Not for Vietnam, not for Iraq, not for Afghanistan, not for any of the other wars and genocides that have been committed in recent decades.
Susan absolutely, also consolidation of power and transfer of wealth. Many of the ultra rich global elite who push the zero carbon agenda (which is the actual "existential crisis" others have invoked.) Have invested heavily in Chinese companies and Chinese energy infrastructure that is growing at an unprecedented pace. They advocate the US elimination of coal power but collect dividends from the booming expansion of the same industry in the East. The effects on the planet are still the same. Shutting down use of nitrogen based fertilizers is crippling farmers production yields and what does that mean for the world's poor and starving populations? Also Send i'm glad that people like you are still making a stand for peace and are speaking out against the perpetual war. I suppose I'm disappointed there isn't more protest, demonstrations and activism, people in the streets about the wars we're funding but I am grateful for the people who do speak out even though their voices are tiny
without the echo chamber of the press. It's also become obvious that the nature of our two party system is a dialectic that is not what it portrays itself as, rather it is a uniparty. This becomes apparent every time a vote comes up to fund the wars in Ukraine & Gaza.
Climate change and the near-terminal harms due to capitalist exploitation of our natural environment are as real as you can get, and they constitute an existential crisis for humanity.
Crony capitalists hijacking that crisis - one that THEY CREATED - to then devise new methods for their own exploitation and mass slavery agenda, is an inevitable follow on problem. It reflects how relentless and blind and suicidal their greed is…..but does not in any way mean the underlying problem is not there. It is.
Furthermore, the movement to focus on preserving this planet and reversing the ravaging of the planet for its resources…..is the biggest rallying point to put a handbrake on the endless wars - they are wars in service of finding more human and natural resources to be subjected capitalist exploitation!!!
The entire thing is a vicious cycle driven by endless greed of capitalism.
Its noticeable the past few years there is an astotufted sock puppet movement that aims to completely muddy the waters - and lure the people with the most to lose from capitalism’s sustainability crisis, into knee jerk rejecting that there is a crisis. So that the capitalist exploitation can continue unabated.
Unfortunately there is no shortage of dimwits who have zero resistance to lies, as they don’t think at all or evaluate situations or incoming messaging. They just repeat it like parrot.
Internet as a communication medium is seriously vulnerable to disinformation campaigns of this type.
No, I'm not muddling anything. I am pointing to the depopulation agenda that is being pushed & carried out by the very same groups of people. These same think tanks and globalist organizations who are intertwined throughout all of the Western governments and many prominent NGO's, corporations.
Telecommunications, and energy producers worldwide have agreed to this agenda. In the 1970s, with state department memorandum 200 Henry Kissinger created a report that cited global population rise as the number one threat to global stability. Henry Kissinger was a protege of John. D Rockefeller and later a mentor of Klaus Schwab who founded the World Economic Forum. John D. Rockefeller created the trilateral commission with It's counterpart being the CFR or council on foreign relations. Shortly after state department memorandum 200 was enacted, the club of Rome put out limits to growth, which was a Malthusian report that marked the beginnig of the green movement and the UN & WEF are at the head of it as well as deeply involved in the Ukraine war and the war in Gaza. The UN and the Rothschilds basically created the state of Isreal after ww2 setting off nearly a century of warfare. THEY DO NOT MIND WAR BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THE AIMS OF DEPOPULATION.
I think it depends on which environmentalists you are referring to. There are citizen environmentalists who are fucking rightfully terrified of the ongoing destruction of our planet.
Then, there are the wealthy who believe they can build luxury bunkers and wait out the apocalypse. Business is booming in this particular real-estate sector.
The problem is that under capitalism as we now understand it, all incentives are perverse. Any notion of solving a problem because it's existential to humanity can ONLY be attempted if the problem is profitable to solve. Therefore, corporations are incentivized to create profitable crises, and then in turn to make unimaginable profits by pretending to solve them.
The climate crisis isn't a hoax. We can go outside and see for ourselves. The issue is that this crisis, like all others - manufactured or not - must return value to shareholders.
Honestly the so called green agenda is a depopulation agenda that hides behind environmentalism and instilling fear and guilt in the people. War achieves the same objective. That is what makes it acceptable and off limits to massive protest and boycotting that would otherwise be promoted by the neo liberal establishment. How is it the anti war left of the Vietnam era are now so silent? Because the establishment propaganda and narrative will not give any support to the peace/ antiwar movement.
I think a big part of the "green agenda" is making money. Many of us from the Vietnam era are still opposing wars, including, of course, the genocide in Gaza. Many are dead which does tend to silence them. The establishment propaganda has never given support to the peace/antiwar movement. Not for Vietnam, not for Iraq, not for Afghanistan, not for any of the other wars and genocides that have been committed in recent decades.
Thank you, Susan.
I’ve been protesting every war from Vietnam to the present, and I ain’t “silent” about it either!
Susan absolutely, also consolidation of power and transfer of wealth. Many of the ultra rich global elite who push the zero carbon agenda (which is the actual "existential crisis" others have invoked.) Have invested heavily in Chinese companies and Chinese energy infrastructure that is growing at an unprecedented pace. They advocate the US elimination of coal power but collect dividends from the booming expansion of the same industry in the East. The effects on the planet are still the same. Shutting down use of nitrogen based fertilizers is crippling farmers production yields and what does that mean for the world's poor and starving populations? Also Send i'm glad that people like you are still making a stand for peace and are speaking out against the perpetual war. I suppose I'm disappointed there isn't more protest, demonstrations and activism, people in the streets about the wars we're funding but I am grateful for the people who do speak out even though their voices are tiny
without the echo chamber of the press. It's also become obvious that the nature of our two party system is a dialectic that is not what it portrays itself as, rather it is a uniparty. This becomes apparent every time a vote comes up to fund the wars in Ukraine & Gaza.
You’re muddling two separate issues.
Climate change and the near-terminal harms due to capitalist exploitation of our natural environment are as real as you can get, and they constitute an existential crisis for humanity.
Crony capitalists hijacking that crisis - one that THEY CREATED - to then devise new methods for their own exploitation and mass slavery agenda, is an inevitable follow on problem. It reflects how relentless and blind and suicidal their greed is…..but does not in any way mean the underlying problem is not there. It is.
Furthermore, the movement to focus on preserving this planet and reversing the ravaging of the planet for its resources…..is the biggest rallying point to put a handbrake on the endless wars - they are wars in service of finding more human and natural resources to be subjected capitalist exploitation!!!
The entire thing is a vicious cycle driven by endless greed of capitalism.
Wake up.
Thank you, Klonda56 for not being stupid. The stupid I see really hurts my feelers, and it is wonderful to see someone who really gets it.
Global warming denial has taken a very stupid turn these days:
"AGW doesn't exist because Al Gore is rich."
"AGW doesn't exist because the oligarchs are using it to restrict freedom."
Just stupid.
Indeed.
Its noticeable the past few years there is an astotufted sock puppet movement that aims to completely muddy the waters - and lure the people with the most to lose from capitalism’s sustainability crisis, into knee jerk rejecting that there is a crisis. So that the capitalist exploitation can continue unabated.
Unfortunately there is no shortage of dimwits who have zero resistance to lies, as they don’t think at all or evaluate situations or incoming messaging. They just repeat it like parrot.
Internet as a communication medium is seriously vulnerable to disinformation campaigns of this type.
No, I'm not muddling anything. I am pointing to the depopulation agenda that is being pushed & carried out by the very same groups of people. These same think tanks and globalist organizations who are intertwined throughout all of the Western governments and many prominent NGO's, corporations.
Telecommunications, and energy producers worldwide have agreed to this agenda. In the 1970s, with state department memorandum 200 Henry Kissinger created a report that cited global population rise as the number one threat to global stability. Henry Kissinger was a protege of John. D Rockefeller and later a mentor of Klaus Schwab who founded the World Economic Forum. John D. Rockefeller created the trilateral commission with It's counterpart being the CFR or council on foreign relations. Shortly after state department memorandum 200 was enacted, the club of Rome put out limits to growth, which was a Malthusian report that marked the beginnig of the green movement and the UN & WEF are at the head of it as well as deeply involved in the Ukraine war and the war in Gaza. The UN and the Rothschilds basically created the state of Isreal after ww2 setting off nearly a century of warfare. THEY DO NOT MIND WAR BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THE AIMS OF DEPOPULATION.
I think it depends on which environmentalists you are referring to. There are citizen environmentalists who are fucking rightfully terrified of the ongoing destruction of our planet.
Then, there are the wealthy who believe they can build luxury bunkers and wait out the apocalypse. Business is booming in this particular real-estate sector.
The problem is that under capitalism as we now understand it, all incentives are perverse. Any notion of solving a problem because it's existential to humanity can ONLY be attempted if the problem is profitable to solve. Therefore, corporations are incentivized to create profitable crises, and then in turn to make unimaginable profits by pretending to solve them.
The climate crisis isn't a hoax. We can go outside and see for ourselves. The issue is that this crisis, like all others - manufactured or not - must return value to shareholders.