You have cut through the emotional and reactionary rhetoric and gotten to the heart of the problem.
Liberals do not exist in The “Democratic” Party, any more than Conservatives exist in The “Republican” Party. Both groups were chased out of those political parties years ago: and both of them want a permanent ceasefire, a fully functioning third party powerful enough to put true fear into the hearts of the ONE Party system that has enslaved Americans for over 100 years, and both despise what Biden and the country have been willing to tolerate. However, they fear what Trump will do (he has openly stated what he will do to what’s left of The US Government: and if installed again (?): will make The US an openly fascist nation and use its the full might of its military to begin WWIII.
(DEAREST Caitlin: TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY:
And quite LITERALLY TO the proverbial BANK. Question (?): are you prepared to do deal with that head on? You may need to do just THAT in short order should Mr Biden fail to take office in ‘25. Be VERY CAREFUL what you wish for.
Biden would keep the military fascists hidden and stamp out any such notions.
He’s also just issued an Executive Order condemning Netanyahu’s government settlements on The West Bank.
Of he can take office again : then he will take a much “harsher tone” towards Bebe and his Likud SS Execution /Death Squads. He will have nothing to loose. When, and but IF Bebe loses(???):
HE has everything to lose..(up to an including his life).
Thank for so eloquently revealing your true intentions Caitlin. Much appreciated.
Never heard so eloquent erudite and specious bullshit in such a long time -probably Ronald Reagan. The demographics in this country, of which you may or may not be aware, hold the likelihood that neither candidate if third parties are voted for will get enough to take office. What do you think will happen? If it doesn’t happen now it might happen later- let Trump do what fucking Trump will do. It can’t be any worse than genocide in Gaza. He can only just continue with Biden‘s doing. That’s the worst most horrible crime at present. Be careful what you wish for. I’m not careful I wish to stop the genocide. I wish to stop the killing.NOW.
if anyone would gauge the conscience of biden against trump even at a guess and glance Biden has ZERO compassion for anything or anyone.. I have more faith in Trump's desire for peace than Biden ever would even if Trumps a stupid blind zionist too..
If I'm interpreting your statement correctly you are supporting a Biden win this year, true? Your predictions of what Biden would do in his second term, are baseless, and certainly nothing in his past suggests he would take the moral high ground. Do you live in the states? Do you know how he pushed all the lies of our ME wars? Do you know of his corruption? Personally I don't trust anyone in public office who is in a position to do so, to stand up to Israel. That includes Trump, should he win. Biden condemns what Israel is doing in the West Bank? Where was his voice in the past in regard to the West Bank? Sixty percent of the land now belongs to Israel and they've been grabbing it for decades. It's been getting worse and worse over time as they build Jewish settlements. Jewish settlers have been killing Palestinians who reside there, or they throw them off their own land, and more often then not there are no consequences. Where was his voice on that issue during his long, long political career? I could go on and on, but no doubt you'll hold on to your fantasy about a self serving man who isn't even playing with a full deck.
Nicely put, Biden has had decades to make a difference in Israel but he has been corrupt for so long that he forgot what ethics and morals are actually used for in the world.
Thats a stretch to think he's ever had any ethics or even knows what they are ..i have watched his career for his whole life in government and he's been nothing but a scumbag through all of it
im sorry Patricia but you are regurgitating propaganda, Biden's America is fascist in every imaginable sense of the word. From experimental medical mandates to union busting, aggressive militarism to open corruption and degradation of the family and the youth of the nation, everything Biden has done has brought all of the worst fears about Trump to fruition. I remember before 2016 leftists claimed trump would start WW3, yet here is Biden bringing us to the brink. I remember claims that Trump would lead to bribery and corruption yet we have Biden crime family neck deep in bribery, blackmail and traitorous actions.
I am not a Trump fan boy but I am also clear eyed about the evils and corruption I see in the current administration - are you ?
Trump? Fascist? What do you base that on? He started no new wars during his term. He has never said he would start WWIII, nor is there any evidence he would. He has said he would end the fighting in Ukraine in one day. Is that starting WWIII? As the late anti-war.com founder Justin Raimondo would say, "Are you hallucinating?"
Redacted FBI files show that Israel helped Trump get elected. He is very close to Netanyahu. Sure, ending the war in Ukraine would be easy for him to do, given Republican opposition to that war. But he may not be willing to do the same for the war in Gaza, especially given his close connections to Netanyahu.
You need to do a little research about the allegations. They have to do with Roger Stone working directly with Netanyahu to do some illegal things to get Trump get elected. This isn't a matter of taking in 100,000 from AIPAC.
Everything that Trump has been accused of has been done by other politicians in the past, taking home top secret documents, yeah, every president and apparently VP has done that one,been accused of sexual impropriety, accused of cheating on taxes, the entire Biden family has done those two. In the end it is just another distraction from the crimes of this government.
So until there is some earth shattering revelation that this was out of the ordinary for American politics I will consider it just more noise.
Karl, you must be aware that he has raped many women. You surely have heard him say that he wants to be a "Dictator". (After all, a dictator won't be able to be unseated.) He has lied on his taxes and failed to pay his workers. He made three ridiculously right-wing judges appointed to the Supreme Court. They will be part of the process to tear down the regulatory state. There are so many reasons to hate Trump, but you seem to be ignoring all of them.
You are also ignoring what the democrats did to Trump which is they tried to remove an elected president from office. It matters not what you think of Trump to know that is unconstitutional. They also wanted a Biden win so they got some 50 CIA agents to say, hey, Hunter's lap top is just Russian disinformation. The democrats also turned Jan 6 into an insurrection, and if you know the definition of that word then you know how absurd that claim is, so lets call it for what it is, a riot. You seem to buy everything you read or hear that substantiates your hate of the man. Tell me did you buy the one where he hired people to go over to Russia and piss on the bed where Obama and his wife slept? Spare me your fear about the right, and be disturbed that the so called left in the democrat party no long exists. You don't have to be a Trump supporter to see what the democrats have become.
I have no love of neoliberals who are most of our government, along with the scary Republicans. So, no I’m not ignoring what they do to Trump - but I think he is a psychopath, senile old man. The same can be said for Biden.
He may be an old man but not nearly as senile as trump...trumps problematic but if you prefer Biden over him that's problematic for your level of awareness and intellect..why not a real candidate?? oh right none will ever be allowed except these clowns
Sadly , yes “russian_bot”, it is common knowledge, and can be verified many times over. However, the most prominent is that of E. Jean Carrol. The criminal statute was timed out, however (?), the Civil Court has no such limitations. When tried by a jury of his peers, Mr Trump was found to be “civilly liable” #GULITY for the molestation, assault, and rape (it was clearly defined as such); of Ms. E. Jean Carrol. He was therefore ordered to pay out 83.5 million dollars in recompense for his illegal assault, along with the pain, suffering and psychological suffering caused by the
rape.
He has also indicted, but not tried for almost 20 other assaults.
yet there was no evidence presented at the Carroll trial, she pressed no charges 30 years ago and has no witnesses or evidence of any kind. She is an obvious man hating opportunist funded by a billionaire that hates Trump.
Here you are being completely blind to the fact that the democrats and Biden have weaponized the judicial system against their political opponent and you find nothing wrong with that ?
That weaponization is fascist to its core yet you are fine it ? Why is that ?
I intended to be flippant. How can one prove something that happened long ago? Have you not been assaulted? Or feel like you have? Can you bring up a case right now against those assailants and claim similar rewards?
My case did not get the kind of publicity that Ms. Carrol’s case did. However, my case managed to convict a powerful legal and religious figure in the State of Washington and California.
They were indicted for 7 other assaults but mine was the one prosecuted successfully.
It took 10 years to build the case and verify the evidence.
The DA and AG’s offices had this person in their files for at least 30 years. It takes that long to gather evidence. The Judge ordered the case re opened within one year of the limitations ban. So yes, be as flippant as you want, if that is what you wish.
E. Jean Carroll, for one, who just was awarded $83 million . Others have not had such a big win against this monster. But if you read the stories of the many women who have complained about his misbehavior, and you consider the way women who are raped are treated on the stand, and by Mr. Trump. Many women would not make a public accusation. So, if they are, where there's smoke, there's fire.
"where there's smoke, there's fire." - sure. Has there been any smoke around you?
Anything can be said about anybody. If you were not just Jean Cushman commenting on Caitlin's forum but running for some position that mattered, you'd be accused with lots of things.
Are you familiar with Mark Twain's "Running for Governor"?
Where are the criminal charges for rape ? You just slandered a man as a rapist without evidence or conviction !
And you ignore the reasons to hate Biden, I have never seen a public figure as publicly creepy towards little girls and other mens wives as Creepy Joe Biden.
George W. Bush invaded Iraq and caused the death of half a million.. Biden, who has supported Ukraine since he was VP, has now allowed a half million Ukrainian soldiers to be killed by perpetuating US support. Tump killed about 13 people. Have you had a course in math? Half a million dead is a lot more than 13.
propaganda most of you all tend to consume has a two fold effect..fool fools and let intellectual and moral cowards have all the excuse and weapons they seek..
I guess Mr. Pomeroy that you do not see abuse of women as violent, perhaps fascist. He didn't stop any wars either. He encouraged hatred of immigrants. Not a great guy at all.
what has that question got to do with anything? Jeez. Sometimes you say things that make sense and then other times, like now, you sound like a real man bimbo.
I did not claim that Karl said anything about Trump stopping wars. Telling that you find bimbos sexually attractive. "real man bimbo" is my own term for a dumb man.
Trump was an attractive successful man when he was younger. I'm sure a lot of women flirted with him. There is no proof he raped any of them, however, Trump's own wife is an immigrant. He never encouraged hatred of immigrants. He merely wants to stop illegal, get that, illegal immigration. I can't imagine why you react so to these minor issues, when the main issue here is war.
there is proof that he raped at least one woman and probably more. I react to his hatred of women because I am a human being who happens to be a woman.
Dear “Patricia” America is an openly fascist country already. Actions speak loud. Arming and helping genocide, for profit of its rich. Waging global wars of ideology and profit. Media reduced to propaganda. Legal system corrupted. Legislature corrupted by legalized bribery. It’s fascism.
They’ve simply tried to hang on to their popular definition of themselves. But, yes, American style fascism has taken national root since 1945. Now it’s out in the open.
The list of resources is endless on Trump's track record in the middle-east and his true intentions (not his stated intentions that he then walks back on by calling everything he disagrees as "Fake News") is endless.
Thank you Kudjoe:
You have cut through the emotional and reactionary rhetoric and gotten to the heart of the problem.
Liberals do not exist in The “Democratic” Party, any more than Conservatives exist in The “Republican” Party. Both groups were chased out of those political parties years ago: and both of them want a permanent ceasefire, a fully functioning third party powerful enough to put true fear into the hearts of the ONE Party system that has enslaved Americans for over 100 years, and both despise what Biden and the country have been willing to tolerate. However, they fear what Trump will do (he has openly stated what he will do to what’s left of The US Government: and if installed again (?): will make The US an openly fascist nation and use its the full might of its military to begin WWIII.
(DEAREST Caitlin: TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY:
And quite LITERALLY TO the proverbial BANK. Question (?): are you prepared to do deal with that head on? You may need to do just THAT in short order should Mr Biden fail to take office in ‘25. Be VERY CAREFUL what you wish for.
Biden would keep the military fascists hidden and stamp out any such notions.
He’s also just issued an Executive Order condemning Netanyahu’s government settlements on The West Bank.
Of he can take office again : then he will take a much “harsher tone” towards Bebe and his Likud SS Execution /Death Squads. He will have nothing to loose. When, and but IF Bebe loses(???):
HE has everything to lose..(up to an including his life).
Thank for so eloquently revealing your true intentions Caitlin. Much appreciated.
Never heard so eloquent erudite and specious bullshit in such a long time -probably Ronald Reagan. The demographics in this country, of which you may or may not be aware, hold the likelihood that neither candidate if third parties are voted for will get enough to take office. What do you think will happen? If it doesn’t happen now it might happen later- let Trump do what fucking Trump will do. It can’t be any worse than genocide in Gaza. He can only just continue with Biden‘s doing. That’s the worst most horrible crime at present. Be careful what you wish for. I’m not careful I wish to stop the genocide. I wish to stop the killing.NOW.
if anyone would gauge the conscience of biden against trump even at a guess and glance Biden has ZERO compassion for anything or anyone.. I have more faith in Trump's desire for peace than Biden ever would even if Trumps a stupid blind zionist too..
If I'm interpreting your statement correctly you are supporting a Biden win this year, true? Your predictions of what Biden would do in his second term, are baseless, and certainly nothing in his past suggests he would take the moral high ground. Do you live in the states? Do you know how he pushed all the lies of our ME wars? Do you know of his corruption? Personally I don't trust anyone in public office who is in a position to do so, to stand up to Israel. That includes Trump, should he win. Biden condemns what Israel is doing in the West Bank? Where was his voice in the past in regard to the West Bank? Sixty percent of the land now belongs to Israel and they've been grabbing it for decades. It's been getting worse and worse over time as they build Jewish settlements. Jewish settlers have been killing Palestinians who reside there, or they throw them off their own land, and more often then not there are no consequences. Where was his voice on that issue during his long, long political career? I could go on and on, but no doubt you'll hold on to your fantasy about a self serving man who isn't even playing with a full deck.
Nicely put, Biden has had decades to make a difference in Israel but he has been corrupt for so long that he forgot what ethics and morals are actually used for in the world.
Thats a stretch to think he's ever had any ethics or even knows what they are ..i have watched his career for his whole life in government and he's been nothing but a scumbag through all of it
I truly wish you good fortune in the wars to come.
You will have need of that; especially in the NL you will inhabit in the not too distant future. May the odds be in your favor.
Your confidence in Biden is excessive.
Your suspicion of Trump is unwarranted.
Just another "lesser of two evils" argument that accomplishes nothing to destroy the Oligarchy and the single-party government.
You can't convince the TDS afflicted, Trump is everything they fear and hate and Biden can do no wrong !
Ain't it such a bizarre orwellian experience to witness how twisted and propagandized the liberal hive mind has become ??
im sorry Patricia but you are regurgitating propaganda, Biden's America is fascist in every imaginable sense of the word. From experimental medical mandates to union busting, aggressive militarism to open corruption and degradation of the family and the youth of the nation, everything Biden has done has brought all of the worst fears about Trump to fruition. I remember before 2016 leftists claimed trump would start WW3, yet here is Biden bringing us to the brink. I remember claims that Trump would lead to bribery and corruption yet we have Biden crime family neck deep in bribery, blackmail and traitorous actions.
I am not a Trump fan boy but I am also clear eyed about the evils and corruption I see in the current administration - are you ?
"but TRUMP!" - see liberal excuse no. 3.
Neoliberal playbook page 22 chapter 2 when nothing works blame "Trump!"
Neoliberal playbook page 2 - Accuse your enemy of the crimes you have committed before you are accused.
Trump? Fascist? What do you base that on? He started no new wars during his term. He has never said he would start WWIII, nor is there any evidence he would. He has said he would end the fighting in Ukraine in one day. Is that starting WWIII? As the late anti-war.com founder Justin Raimondo would say, "Are you hallucinating?"
Redacted FBI files show that Israel helped Trump get elected. He is very close to Netanyahu. Sure, ending the war in Ukraine would be easy for him to do, given Republican opposition to that war. But he may not be willing to do the same for the war in Gaza, especially given his close connections to Netanyahu.
Every president in my lifetime has had Israel help them get elected - why should Trump be any different ?
You need to do a little research about the allegations. They have to do with Roger Stone working directly with Netanyahu to do some illegal things to get Trump get elected. This isn't a matter of taking in 100,000 from AIPAC.
Everything that Trump has been accused of has been done by other politicians in the past, taking home top secret documents, yeah, every president and apparently VP has done that one,been accused of sexual impropriety, accused of cheating on taxes, the entire Biden family has done those two. In the end it is just another distraction from the crimes of this government.
So until there is some earth shattering revelation that this was out of the ordinary for American politics I will consider it just more noise.
Karl, you must be aware that he has raped many women. You surely have heard him say that he wants to be a "Dictator". (After all, a dictator won't be able to be unseated.) He has lied on his taxes and failed to pay his workers. He made three ridiculously right-wing judges appointed to the Supreme Court. They will be part of the process to tear down the regulatory state. There are so many reasons to hate Trump, but you seem to be ignoring all of them.
You are also ignoring what the democrats did to Trump which is they tried to remove an elected president from office. It matters not what you think of Trump to know that is unconstitutional. They also wanted a Biden win so they got some 50 CIA agents to say, hey, Hunter's lap top is just Russian disinformation. The democrats also turned Jan 6 into an insurrection, and if you know the definition of that word then you know how absurd that claim is, so lets call it for what it is, a riot. You seem to buy everything you read or hear that substantiates your hate of the man. Tell me did you buy the one where he hired people to go over to Russia and piss on the bed where Obama and his wife slept? Spare me your fear about the right, and be disturbed that the so called left in the democrat party no long exists. You don't have to be a Trump supporter to see what the democrats have become.
The same can sadly be applied to the so called “right” as well. The “left” wing and the “right” wing (?), are attached to the same damn bird.
Stop deflecting and pretending the crimes of the Biden administration don't exist.
I have no love of neoliberals who are most of our government, along with the scary Republicans. So, no I’m not ignoring what they do to Trump - but I think he is a psychopath, senile old man. The same can be said for Biden.
He may be an old man but not nearly as senile as trump...trumps problematic but if you prefer Biden over him that's problematic for your level of awareness and intellect..why not a real candidate?? oh right none will ever be allowed except these clowns
"he has raped many women" - is that a common knowledge? Could you share details?
Sadly , yes “russian_bot”, it is common knowledge, and can be verified many times over. However, the most prominent is that of E. Jean Carrol. The criminal statute was timed out, however (?), the Civil Court has no such limitations. When tried by a jury of his peers, Mr Trump was found to be “civilly liable” #GULITY for the molestation, assault, and rape (it was clearly defined as such); of Ms. E. Jean Carrol. He was therefore ordered to pay out 83.5 million dollars in recompense for his illegal assault, along with the pain, suffering and psychological suffering caused by the
rape.
He has also indicted, but not tried for almost 20 other assaults.
yet there was no evidence presented at the Carroll trial, she pressed no charges 30 years ago and has no witnesses or evidence of any kind. She is an obvious man hating opportunist funded by a billionaire that hates Trump.
Here you are being completely blind to the fact that the democrats and Biden have weaponized the judicial system against their political opponent and you find nothing wrong with that ?
That weaponization is fascist to its core yet you are fine it ? Why is that ?
Are you one of those 20?
I intended to be flippant. How can one prove something that happened long ago? Have you not been assaulted? Or feel like you have? Can you bring up a case right now against those assailants and claim similar rewards?
I could and I HAVE.
My case did not get the kind of publicity that Ms. Carrol’s case did. However, my case managed to convict a powerful legal and religious figure in the State of Washington and California.
They were indicted for 7 other assaults but mine was the one prosecuted successfully.
It took 10 years to build the case and verify the evidence.
The DA and AG’s offices had this person in their files for at least 30 years. It takes that long to gather evidence. The Judge ordered the case re opened within one year of the limitations ban. So yes, be as flippant as you want, if that is what you wish.
E. Jean Carroll, for one, who just was awarded $83 million . Others have not had such a big win against this monster. But if you read the stories of the many women who have complained about his misbehavior, and you consider the way women who are raped are treated on the stand, and by Mr. Trump. Many women would not make a public accusation. So, if they are, where there's smoke, there's fire.
"where there's smoke, there's fire." - sure. Has there been any smoke around you?
Anything can be said about anybody. If you were not just Jean Cushman commenting on Caitlin's forum but running for some position that mattered, you'd be accused with lots of things.
Are you familiar with Mark Twain's "Running for Governor"?
Are you aware that we realize who you are?
Where are the criminal charges for rape ? You just slandered a man as a rapist without evidence or conviction !
And you ignore the reasons to hate Biden, I have never seen a public figure as publicly creepy towards little girls and other mens wives as Creepy Joe Biden.
George W. Bush invaded Iraq and caused the death of half a million.. Biden, who has supported Ukraine since he was VP, has now allowed a half million Ukrainian soldiers to be killed by perpetuating US support. Tump killed about 13 people. Have you had a course in math? Half a million dead is a lot more than 13.
propaganda most of you all tend to consume has a two fold effect..fool fools and let intellectual and moral cowards have all the excuse and weapons they seek..
I guess Mr. Pomeroy that you do not see abuse of women as violent, perhaps fascist. He didn't stop any wars either. He encouraged hatred of immigrants. Not a great guy at all.
"He didn't stop any wars either" - did karl claim he did?
what has that question got to do with anything? Jeez. Sometimes you say things that make sense and then other times, like now, you sound like a real man bimbo.
"real man bimbo" sounds sexy. I hope it doesn't cause unnecessary arousals in the forum.
If you re-read karl's comment - where does he claim Trump stopped wars?
I did not claim that Karl said anything about Trump stopping wars. Telling that you find bimbos sexually attractive. "real man bimbo" is my own term for a dumb man.
That’s a rather frequent claim for many in The GQP.
Trump was an attractive successful man when he was younger. I'm sure a lot of women flirted with him. There is no proof he raped any of them, however, Trump's own wife is an immigrant. He never encouraged hatred of immigrants. He merely wants to stop illegal, get that, illegal immigration. I can't imagine why you react so to these minor issues, when the main issue here is war.
there is proof that he raped at least one woman and probably more. I react to his hatred of women because I am a human being who happens to be a woman.
Trump is a fascist - your first curriculum:
This Happened Here
https://www.amazon.com/This-Happened-Here-Paul-Street/dp/1032150599
Paul Street's essays:
https://www.counterpunch.org/author/paul-street/
Do Biden next, you could name your book, Cocaine Cowboys of the White house or perhaps "BidenGate: How pedophilia runs rampant in D.C" !
Thanks again for the links!
Dear “Patricia” America is an openly fascist country already. Actions speak loud. Arming and helping genocide, for profit of its rich. Waging global wars of ideology and profit. Media reduced to propaganda. Legal system corrupted. Legislature corrupted by legalized bribery. It’s fascism.
They’ve simply tried to hang on to their popular definition of themselves. But, yes, American style fascism has taken national root since 1945. Now it’s out in the open.
True Patricia. Trump has been incredibly bad for the Middle-East and Palestine when he was in office.
Examples:
(1) Democracy Now->“Yet Another Declaration of War on Palestinians”: Rashid Khalidi on Trump’s Middle East “Peace” Plan [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qCcqyA__tk]
(2) Trump vows to help Israel finish Hamas and ban Gaza refugees from entering the US [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0CqwurerEQ]
(3) AlJazeera->Trump's Middle East plan and a century of failed deals [https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2020/the-failed-deals-of-the-century/index.html]
(4) Trump’s reckless Middle East policy has brought the US to the brink of war [https://www.brookings.edu/articles/trumps-reckless-middle-east-policy-has-brought-the-us-to-the-brink-of-war/]
(5) Trump claims he made peace in the Middle East with Abraham Accords. That’s False. [https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/dec/05/donald-trump/trump-claims-he-made-peace-in-the-middle-east-with/]
(6) TheIntercept->https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/dec/05/donald-trump/trump-claims-he-made-peace-in-the-middle-east-with/ [https://theintercept.com/2020/10/29/trump-yemen-war-civilian-deaths/]
(7) AlJazeera->Analysis: Trump's Middle East plan: The farce, the fraud and the fury [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hbYJXQiyjA]
(8) WATCH: Senate votes to restrict Trump's war powers [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4C0wZNifpE]
(9) In one move, Trump eliminated US funding for UNRWA and the US role as Mideast peacemaker [https://www.brookings.edu/articles/in-one-move-trump-eliminated-us-funding-for-unrwa-and-the-us-role-as-mideast-peacemaker/]
The list of resources is endless on Trump's track record in the middle-east and his true intentions (not his stated intentions that he then walks back on by calling everything he disagrees as "Fake News") is endless.
LOL Biden also pledged his undying allegiance to israel and screw the USA people.
Trump will do the same as his son in law is a Mossad operative.