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Fran's avatar

If you know his history he's always been a self serving SOB. He even had to step down from his presidential run in the 1980's since he stole other people's speeches and writings like those of senator Robert Kennedy and has always lied about his academic capabilities and grades. Of course there is a whole lot more.

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It's odd that, for the reasons you mention, he was twice soundly rejected as even being the Democrat's nominee as a young man, and yet now that he's practically a zombie--with just his aggressive streak and creepy sexual fixation as the only real signs of life--he's sitting in the White House.

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Just in case you think I'm the only one who believes we helped implement a coup.

Vladimir Putin

Putin accuses US of orchestrating 2014 ‘coup’ in Ukraine

In a column for a German newspaper, the Russian president accuses Washington of manufacturing Yanukovich’s removal from office.

Putin said post-Cold War dynamics that left countries faced with an 'artificial choice' between siding with the West or Russia shaped the 'Ukrainian tragedy' of 2014 [File: Sputnik/Alexei Nikolsky/Kremlin via Reuters]

Published On 22 Jun 2021

22 Jun 2021

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said the 2014 popular uprising that saw former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich forced from office was the result of a “coup” orchestrated by the United States and supported by Washington’s European allies and appealed for greater cooperation on the continent.

Writing an op-ed in German newspaper Die Zeit to mark the 80th anniversary of Germany’s invasion of the Soviet Union during World War II, Putin on Tuesday described the toppling of Yanukovich as an “anti-constitutional armed coup”.

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Fran's avatar

The only reason he was elected was a 4 year harangue against Trump. Doesn't matter what you think about him, but that was one of his many uses to get someone like Biden in, so he could continue where the Obama administration left off in regard to Ukraine and Russia. In 2016 they were sure it would be Clinton but no, it was Trump who thought it was a good idea to get along with Russia. Many people dismiss what our intentions were in supporting the coup in 2014, but I wasn't. Remember what Biden said back from his trip, "Putin has got to go." That was the plan from the beginning, and the why of the Russia-gate BS, where they could spend 4 years vilifying not only Trump, but Russia. 

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It's a side note to your point in your last two posts here:

But isn't it interesting that the US Empire gets to declare who they do and don't want in the top power positions in other countries--and often undertake actions to bring their desires about--but if a key figure in another country expresses an opinion about who they desire to win a US election, they are resoundingly denounced by the Empire and its State Media?

(Heck, the training is so good here that many of my friends and family members still go into conniptions at the thought that some Russians might have put up some memes critical of Hillary in 2016.)

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Fran's avatar

I never had any problem in not trusting the good old USA. I use to watch those old cowboy and Indian movies as a kid that always said the Indians are the bad guys even though we were the ones stealing their land. No adult could explain that contradiction so I came to a conclusion of my own, my government cannot be trusted to tell me the truth. When we pledged the flag at school I never said with liberty and justice for all. My allegiance is to the people of this country, not my government.

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Literally Mussolini's avatar

You were ahead of me on these things. I recall having an inkling when I was young that there was something wrong with some of the cowboy and Indian movies. I was well into adulthood before ceasing to say the pledge of allegiance or standing for the national anthem.

Like you, I'm loyal to (good) people and certain ideals.

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