An evil person would do a good thing to cover for or divert from the bad things to go on.
I posted a link to a podcast in another comment where you can hear an example of the First Look's Omidiar. And drawing parallels to Musk, but it could be anyone in this context.
I'm glad that you brought up Omidyar, because I sure don't like him. I hate what The Intercept has become, that it pushes out good journalists like Glenn Greenwald while bringing in Russiagaters like James Risen and doxxers/liars like Ken Klippenstein.
But when Ken Klippenstein teamed up with Lee Fang (Lee might be the only decent journalist left at the outlet, but maybe I'm forgetting somebody or unaware or somebody) to expose this...
I still hate Ken, because overall he's still a POS who doxxed Fiorella Isabel and called Jimmy Dore a "horse dewormer med guy" after Dore shared a study *from the NIH* saying that ivermectin might be effective at treating Covid. And I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up doing 100 or 500 more stories that just kiss the establishment's ass before he ever does another story that exposes establishment wrongdoing.
But you know what? I'll take it, just like I'll take Musk doing one or two things right re. Twitter. It's better than if they never did anything right at all.
Seems to me that when they do something good--even if they might do it for the wrong reason, like maybe doing it not because they want to help anybody but because they want to make life difficult for their enemies--we should be glad that they did something good, and let me stress that being glad they did something good does *not* mean we should believe they are overall good people, nor does it mean that we should consider them trustworthy in the future.
I'd agree with you if I didn't think their giving an inch actually enables them to steal a mile. With the rubes distracted and cheering in the meantime.
(EDIT: Okay, I've decided that if I deleted this whole comment because I turned out to be wrong then it would look like I was trying to deny I ever made it. But I went off on russian_bot here because I wasn't paying close enough attention to their comment, and I thought I was being accused of something I actually wasn't. 100% my bad. Now, without further ado, you can read how I embarrassed myself here.)
I'm sorry, are you insane?
I. Am. Not. Giving. Them. Anything!
Do you think because I linked to that one article to prove my point that it means I fucking DONATE MONEY to The Intercept? JFC, what's wrong with you?
Explain how I'm giving them an inch. Explain how I'm even giving them a millimeter. Explain how I'm giving them a MICROSCOPIC distance.
ME: "Huh, looks like that asshole Ken Klippenstein did some good reporting. For once."
YOU: "OMG STOP, STOP GIVING KEN KLIPPENSTEIN THAT INCH, HE'S GOING TO TAKE A MILE! YOU'RE NOT REALLY A LEFTIST AT ALL!"
An evil person would do a good thing to cover for or divert from the bad things to go on.
I posted a link to a podcast in another comment where you can hear an example of the First Look's Omidiar. And drawing parallels to Musk, but it could be anyone in this context.
I'm glad that you brought up Omidyar, because I sure don't like him. I hate what The Intercept has become, that it pushes out good journalists like Glenn Greenwald while bringing in Russiagaters like James Risen and doxxers/liars like Ken Klippenstein.
But when Ken Klippenstein teamed up with Lee Fang (Lee might be the only decent journalist left at the outlet, but maybe I'm forgetting somebody or unaware or somebody) to expose this...
https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/
...that was a good thing.
I still hate Ken, because overall he's still a POS who doxxed Fiorella Isabel and called Jimmy Dore a "horse dewormer med guy" after Dore shared a study *from the NIH* saying that ivermectin might be effective at treating Covid. And I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up doing 100 or 500 more stories that just kiss the establishment's ass before he ever does another story that exposes establishment wrongdoing.
But you know what? I'll take it, just like I'll take Musk doing one or two things right re. Twitter. It's better than if they never did anything right at all.
Seems to me that when they do something good--even if they might do it for the wrong reason, like maybe doing it not because they want to help anybody but because they want to make life difficult for their enemies--we should be glad that they did something good, and let me stress that being glad they did something good does *not* mean we should believe they are overall good people, nor does it mean that we should consider them trustworthy in the future.
I'd agree with you if I didn't think their giving an inch actually enables them to steal a mile. With the rubes distracted and cheering in the meantime.
(EDIT: Okay, I've decided that if I deleted this whole comment because I turned out to be wrong then it would look like I was trying to deny I ever made it. But I went off on russian_bot here because I wasn't paying close enough attention to their comment, and I thought I was being accused of something I actually wasn't. 100% my bad. Now, without further ado, you can read how I embarrassed myself here.)
I'm sorry, are you insane?
I. Am. Not. Giving. Them. Anything!
Do you think because I linked to that one article to prove my point that it means I fucking DONATE MONEY to The Intercept? JFC, what's wrong with you?
Explain how I'm giving them an inch. Explain how I'm even giving them a millimeter. Explain how I'm giving them a MICROSCOPIC distance.
ME: "Huh, looks like that asshole Ken Klippenstein did some good reporting. For once."
YOU: "OMG STOP, STOP GIVING KEN KLIPPENSTEIN THAT INCH, HE'S GOING TO TAKE A MILE! YOU'RE NOT REALLY A LEFTIST AT ALL!"
ME: 🙄
Somebody is missing this reply of yours. Whoever was saying all those things certainly wasn't me.
You know what, you're right. Again, I misread something.
What you actually wrote: "I'd agree with you if I didn't think their giving an inch actually enables them to steal a mile."
What I thought you wrote: "I'd agree with you if I didn't think giving them an inch actually enables them to steal a mile."
I owe you an apology, and I am sorry.