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Vin LoPresti's avatar

I'd opine that he's been pretty patient overall. No further concessions are warranted.

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russian_bot's avatar

If you ask the Russians way overly so. And he admitted as much some time ago. He said the regret was he should have had more trust in his people, not the "relationships" with the western leaders who all turned up lying scumbags.

The West lost Russia, arguably the best prize they got after the breakup of the USSR, and they only have themselves to blame.

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Guest's avatar

I think Putin felt a principled obligation in doing the Minsk agreements—taking matters of war & peace seriously. He might have expected the treachery, but at least the Russian Federation stands on higher ground for their honest & forthright diplomacy.

The West still could have had a mutually beneficial relationship with Russia after Putin excised the carpetbagging, but they are greedy control freaks (and worse).

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russian_bot's avatar

"but at least the Russian Federation stands on higher ground" - at what expense? Hundreds of thousands of lives? Seems like too high a price for being "fair".

Also, the other side was breaking the agreements all the time. Why the hell would you hold your end when the other one doesn't care to? He's extremely responsible for the situation regardless of the full fault belonging to the West.

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Lowell Googins's avatar

Putin is extremely responsible for the situation regardless the full fault belonging to the west. What?

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JennyStokes's avatar

I do not understand this comment.

What is Putin responsible for?

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Courageous Lion's avatar

For defending the Minx agreement. For defending Donbas from the Nazi murderers. In another words for defending those who were being attacked.

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russian_bot's avatar

For being a dupe for so long. For believing the westerners when they were feeding him tales. For refusing to see what they were doing instead of what they were saying.

Putin appears to be vain. The westerners figured him out and pumped him up with "importance" and "respect" and "power" etc while doing shit behind his back which was so obvious to many and spoken about openly. There's lots that could have been done in time to prevent the eventual escalation. He preferred to have his friend Angela Merkel bring him German beer that he's so fond of. Or a Japanese prime minister at the time gift him some dog.

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Landru's avatar

All things seem to be true. At the time, grasping for peace may have been to much to ask. It would be hard not to try one more time as with a friend who you no longer trust.

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Spunty's avatar

America ALWAYS needs an enemy, an 'other' in order to feed its insatiable desires for war and disruption. It's a disgusting empire that deserves their Trumps.

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Landru's avatar

We citizens of the u.s. are all that is left to colonize. Thankfully Russia has taught us that before nuclear weapons are used, or at least I hope so.

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Landru's avatar

The Tucker Carlson interview of Putin was one of the better interviews I think I have ever listened to. I was never a fan of Carlson however either he or I have evolved ha.

In that interview Putin reveals his failings believing he was dealing with honest people. I wish he had asked us ha.

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martin's avatar

i sure hope russia manages to interact with the west as little as possible for a few generations. the re-establishment of an iron curtain would be a good idea, imo.

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Landru's avatar

We will need global cooperation on many of the issues the world has even though we created most of them.

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martin's avatar

i fear the west is too far gone. the global cooperation is indeed needed, but with the west relinquished to a trailing role, imo. they're just too unreliable.

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