There is much more about Trump I can go on about, including imprisoning Assange and providing huge tax breaks for the obscenely wealthy in the US - which is another type of war against ordinary Americans - and poverty is the worst type of violence against human beings.
I do not see Trump as any kind of savior of the US. I do believe Jan 6th was an inside job by the deep state - that was far from any kind of so-called armed insurrection. And I even believe Trump may have encouraged the protest to some degree. But do I see Trump as any different than say Bill Clinton? Both flew on the Lolita Express multiple times with Jeffrey Epstein. Both are phony populists who once they gained power, did more harm to ordinary working Americans than most realize. Both played golf on the golf courses together as the wealth transfer continued unabated among the American populace.
Biden Economy IS Recession heading into Depression
Enjoy!!!
btw, Trump kicked Epstein Out Mar a Lago CC, Clintoon got Frequent Flyer miles on Epstein's Lolita Express, even Hilarity flew to the Island for the Kiddie Deserts.
What's wrong with America First??? After the NWO Bushies, Clintoons, Obamaites deindustrialized and sent the midwest especially into the economic doldrums. democRats Lost their Blue Collar voters..... so much for their "worker paradise".
You know GenEarly - I used to think of Obama the way you think of Trump right now. I even voted for him the first time he ran. I also used to think of Bernie Sanders the way you think of Trump - until he obviously betrayed his supporters and everything he said he was for - since he dropped out of the presidential races.
So I understand your delusion about Trump. And there is not much I can do to convince you that Trump is not the "God Hero" you think he is.
"No God Hero" to me. I voted For Trump in 2016 to "Throw a monkey wrench" into the DC Elist Cabal of Bushies/Clintonista-Obamaites.
Despite UnPrecedented LIEs of Russia Russia Russia, betrayal by rinoRat Repubs like Romney-Ryan and clearly evident Mitchy McConnell, Bob Barr, and Judas Pence-Haley-Christie.
The Weaponization of the FIB/ATF used to arouse ire from the "Left" but now is just fine depending on who/whom is protected Clintoons/Obamy-bidens, Rino-Rats, and Who/Whom is Continually persecuted by the Deep Statists, Unjustly .... Trump and associated "Deplorables".
Trump's Enemies are My Enemies so I fight the Battle in front of me, Tomorrow is another day,.
I too have evolved thru the political process as you have thru disappointments. I never liked McShame, and learned that the Bushies were All NWO.
I Expect Nothing anymore from politicians, sElections have proven to be rigged, especially 2022 in AZ which Kari Lake was cheated out of. Trump Won in 2020 as well. So if you/me/we want a functioning country then the Corruption has to be Exposed and Eliminated enough to get some degree of legitmacy.
Otherwise let's just Divorce, unreconcilable differences. People are already "Voting" with their feet, migrating from ? to Where ? State populations tell the tale, as well as Urban to Rural.
I wish you well, the economic demise is just beginning, imo; And will bring misery down upon us all, regardless of our opinions.
I believe both parties are deeply corrupt, and our country has become an oligarchy, run by a relatively handful of obscenely rich billionaires.
The only way ordinary Americans can fight back now is through organization on the ground - organized labor strikes etc. Organized protests. The politicians have been bought off - along with a good amount of the judiciary branch as well. We live in a dying, corrupt empire. Sad times.
Agreed but are Our Solutions Aligned? If We can't Agree on a Constitutional Republic then no number of Personalities will suffice, The Rule of Law must be arrived at by Representatives duly elected as in the pre 17th Amendment Constitution, so that Senators represent their respective States thus Controlling the Federal Gov.
IF the pledge to obey the Constitution was 1. undersood and 2. adhered to Much of our troubles would be gone. Income Tax and a Central Bank being two that come to mind.
Most of the DC Bureacrazy could also be sent to find real jobs that contribute rather than leech off of society. Just my opinions.
There is not much respect left for the US Constitution, especially by the deep state actors. They of course believe they are "patriotic" by subverting and ignoring the US Constitution - tyranny always justifies/rationalizes itself by assuming it is lying/killing/exploiting for the good of the "people".
I don't see government as necessarily evil - the evil lies in the corruption of what is supposed to be a representative government. But what we have in DC is a government that represents only the donor/wealth class. Much like France before the French Revolution that Charles Dickens wrote about in A Tale of Two Cities. I suspect a similar outcome also awaits this country - since power/wealth never voluntarily gives itself up to the ordinary folks it exploits ruthlessly.
I see protests as useless. These random outsiders running for high office and winning doesn't work either. It shows how dissatisfied the people are, but even if they win how much do they actually get done?
They don’t have enough friends and allies in positions of power and influence. Without them they are more or less helpless in the face of the numerous enemies they surely will have.
What does work is starting small. Develop an attractive program, join with others who favor this, find an attractive candidate, and get them elected mayor. The mayor can’t do much without the city council so do the same thing. Get candidates to pledge themselves to the attractive program, then persuade voters to use their power to elect a new city council. If they do a good job they have an inside track to statewide posts. Your representatives owe their election to you so to keep your support they will work to implement your program. If successful they accrue friends and allies on the way up, establish reputations as reliable honest brokers, and get some enthusiasm amongst the voters.
Sounds boring? Or think it can't be done? Look at Satoko Kishimoto. She returned to her native Japan in April 2022. In two months’ time she was elected mayor of Tokyo's Suginami district, population 588,300. Then she campaigned hard to get a city council elected on her program. Fifteen rookies won. Her next step is to reform the 6,000 strong bureaucracy. If that works, things can progress from there.
Or maybe state office first. That can work. Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Obama, and Tulsi Gabbard started out in state legislatures. Bill Clinton got elected attorney general of Arkansas. Maybe you loathe and despise all these people but that’s not the point. Look up the histories of your faves and I expect you will see the same sort of thing. Very rich people can skip these steps but this isn’t our game.
As far as developing effective national figures you pretty much have to do something at the state level first. Going direct to the federal level doesn’t work. That’s how you get your Donald Trumps. What lasting change did he make?
So get involved in the small elections. Like mayor, city council or the school board. The smaller the election, the more influence you shall have. If you don’t like any of the candidates, get together with your friends, come up with things you want done, find someone who can do those things, pledge your support, have them run, then do what you can to get them elected.
Small races are more influential than you might think. Politicians know that polls can’t be trusted — people don’t do what they say they will do. Instead they look closely at such races and see what is winning and what is losing. They look at small races in districts similar to their own. Especially they look at small races in their own district. They want to get ahead of trends.
If you are a governor you don’t care about the presidential race, you look at at mayoral and legislative elections in your own state. If you see that an issue is winning elections you may adopt it. Then you will promote into statewide office those who are pioneers of the issue, who know how to push it through. This is why small elections are more important than you might think.
Due to grave crisis FDR made big changes at the federal level but he didn’t do it alone. Far, far from it. He had a program. Candidates for Congress pledged themselves to that program. They won a majority in the legislature, a big one. That program got put into motion. His Social Security survives to this day. Now that’s lasting change.
Back to Kishimoto of Tokyo. Though having started small as mayor she also has long-range plans. These include aborting the rise of militarism while it is still small. If a big military gets entrenched it will agitate endlessly for ever increasing wars. Japan knows well the end of that road. In Japan, that should be a winning program.
Not true, Trump learned from a young frmale staff member at Mar a Lago of Epistein harrassment and kicked him out. Many people knew Epistein was an unsavory character after his Miami conviction, Yet Kept in his circle. Trump was Not one of them. Go fishing.
There is much more about Trump I can go on about, including imprisoning Assange and providing huge tax breaks for the obscenely wealthy in the US - which is another type of war against ordinary Americans - and poverty is the worst type of violence against human beings.
I do not see Trump as any kind of savior of the US. I do believe Jan 6th was an inside job by the deep state - that was far from any kind of so-called armed insurrection. And I even believe Trump may have encouraged the protest to some degree. But do I see Trump as any different than say Bill Clinton? Both flew on the Lolita Express multiple times with Jeffrey Epstein. Both are phony populists who once they gained power, did more harm to ordinary working Americans than most realize. Both played golf on the golf courses together as the wealth transfer continued unabated among the American populace.
Obamy Economy Was Recession
Trump Economy was most Affluent for All
Biden Economy IS Recession heading into Depression
Enjoy!!!
btw, Trump kicked Epstein Out Mar a Lago CC, Clintoon got Frequent Flyer miles on Epstein's Lolita Express, even Hilarity flew to the Island for the Kiddie Deserts.
What's wrong with America First??? After the NWO Bushies, Clintoons, Obamaites deindustrialized and sent the midwest especially into the economic doldrums. democRats Lost their Blue Collar voters..... so much for their "worker paradise".
You know GenEarly - I used to think of Obama the way you think of Trump right now. I even voted for him the first time he ran. I also used to think of Bernie Sanders the way you think of Trump - until he obviously betrayed his supporters and everything he said he was for - since he dropped out of the presidential races.
So I understand your delusion about Trump. And there is not much I can do to convince you that Trump is not the "God Hero" you think he is.
"No God Hero" to me. I voted For Trump in 2016 to "Throw a monkey wrench" into the DC Elist Cabal of Bushies/Clintonista-Obamaites.
Despite UnPrecedented LIEs of Russia Russia Russia, betrayal by rinoRat Repubs like Romney-Ryan and clearly evident Mitchy McConnell, Bob Barr, and Judas Pence-Haley-Christie.
The Weaponization of the FIB/ATF used to arouse ire from the "Left" but now is just fine depending on who/whom is protected Clintoons/Obamy-bidens, Rino-Rats, and Who/Whom is Continually persecuted by the Deep Statists, Unjustly .... Trump and associated "Deplorables".
Trump's Enemies are My Enemies so I fight the Battle in front of me, Tomorrow is another day,.
I too have evolved thru the political process as you have thru disappointments. I never liked McShame, and learned that the Bushies were All NWO.
I Expect Nothing anymore from politicians, sElections have proven to be rigged, especially 2022 in AZ which Kari Lake was cheated out of. Trump Won in 2020 as well. So if you/me/we want a functioning country then the Corruption has to be Exposed and Eliminated enough to get some degree of legitmacy.
Otherwise let's just Divorce, unreconcilable differences. People are already "Voting" with their feet, migrating from ? to Where ? State populations tell the tale, as well as Urban to Rural.
I wish you well, the economic demise is just beginning, imo; And will bring misery down upon us all, regardless of our opinions.
I believe both parties are deeply corrupt, and our country has become an oligarchy, run by a relatively handful of obscenely rich billionaires.
The only way ordinary Americans can fight back now is through organization on the ground - organized labor strikes etc. Organized protests. The politicians have been bought off - along with a good amount of the judiciary branch as well. We live in a dying, corrupt empire. Sad times.
Agreed but are Our Solutions Aligned? If We can't Agree on a Constitutional Republic then no number of Personalities will suffice, The Rule of Law must be arrived at by Representatives duly elected as in the pre 17th Amendment Constitution, so that Senators represent their respective States thus Controlling the Federal Gov.
IF the pledge to obey the Constitution was 1. undersood and 2. adhered to Much of our troubles would be gone. Income Tax and a Central Bank being two that come to mind.
Most of the DC Bureacrazy could also be sent to find real jobs that contribute rather than leech off of society. Just my opinions.
There is not much respect left for the US Constitution, especially by the deep state actors. They of course believe they are "patriotic" by subverting and ignoring the US Constitution - tyranny always justifies/rationalizes itself by assuming it is lying/killing/exploiting for the good of the "people".
I don't see government as necessarily evil - the evil lies in the corruption of what is supposed to be a representative government. But what we have in DC is a government that represents only the donor/wealth class. Much like France before the French Revolution that Charles Dickens wrote about in A Tale of Two Cities. I suspect a similar outcome also awaits this country - since power/wealth never voluntarily gives itself up to the ordinary folks it exploits ruthlessly.
I see protests as useless. These random outsiders running for high office and winning doesn't work either. It shows how dissatisfied the people are, but even if they win how much do they actually get done?
They don’t have enough friends and allies in positions of power and influence. Without them they are more or less helpless in the face of the numerous enemies they surely will have.
What does work is starting small. Develop an attractive program, join with others who favor this, find an attractive candidate, and get them elected mayor. The mayor can’t do much without the city council so do the same thing. Get candidates to pledge themselves to the attractive program, then persuade voters to use their power to elect a new city council. If they do a good job they have an inside track to statewide posts. Your representatives owe their election to you so to keep your support they will work to implement your program. If successful they accrue friends and allies on the way up, establish reputations as reliable honest brokers, and get some enthusiasm amongst the voters.
Sounds boring? Or think it can't be done? Look at Satoko Kishimoto. She returned to her native Japan in April 2022. In two months’ time she was elected mayor of Tokyo's Suginami district, population 588,300. Then she campaigned hard to get a city council elected on her program. Fifteen rookies won. Her next step is to reform the 6,000 strong bureaucracy. If that works, things can progress from there.
Or maybe state office first. That can work. Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Obama, and Tulsi Gabbard started out in state legislatures. Bill Clinton got elected attorney general of Arkansas. Maybe you loathe and despise all these people but that’s not the point. Look up the histories of your faves and I expect you will see the same sort of thing. Very rich people can skip these steps but this isn’t our game.
As far as developing effective national figures you pretty much have to do something at the state level first. Going direct to the federal level doesn’t work. That’s how you get your Donald Trumps. What lasting change did he make?
So get involved in the small elections. Like mayor, city council or the school board. The smaller the election, the more influence you shall have. If you don’t like any of the candidates, get together with your friends, come up with things you want done, find someone who can do those things, pledge your support, have them run, then do what you can to get them elected.
Small races are more influential than you might think. Politicians know that polls can’t be trusted — people don’t do what they say they will do. Instead they look closely at such races and see what is winning and what is losing. They look at small races in districts similar to their own. Especially they look at small races in their own district. They want to get ahead of trends.
If you are a governor you don’t care about the presidential race, you look at at mayoral and legislative elections in your own state. If you see that an issue is winning elections you may adopt it. Then you will promote into statewide office those who are pioneers of the issue, who know how to push it through. This is why small elections are more important than you might think.
Due to grave crisis FDR made big changes at the federal level but he didn’t do it alone. Far, far from it. He had a program. Candidates for Congress pledged themselves to that program. They won a majority in the legislature, a big one. That program got put into motion. His Social Security survives to this day. Now that’s lasting change.
Back to Kishimoto of Tokyo. Though having started small as mayor she also has long-range plans. These include aborting the rise of militarism while it is still small. If a big military gets entrenched it will agitate endlessly for ever increasing wars. Japan knows well the end of that road. In Japan, that should be a winning program.
I see organized protests/labor as the only way out. And perhaps small town politics. That's it.
These people you’re arguing with are not Americans. They prove over and over that they are globalists.
Trumpstien was friends with Epstein after his sweetheart deal.
He knew.
Not true, Trump learned from a young frmale staff member at Mar a Lago of Epistein harrassment and kicked him out. Many people knew Epistein was an unsavory character after his Miami conviction, Yet Kept in his circle. Trump was Not one of them. Go fishing.