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Amos's avatar

I interact with a lot of Trump supporters, and I can tell you that many of them did NOT support Trump's wars or treatment of Assange. They saw this as Trump bowing to the Deep State. Trump does have a very loyal base who would support his every move, but that's not the majority of Trump voters, who simply see him as the only way to strike back at the Regime. And when the media did a sudden 180, calling Trump "presidential" for having bombed the Syrian airport, everyone noticed who was pulling the strings on that one.

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bill wolfe's avatar

How did they feel about Trump's moves to install corporate and industry lobbyists as head of federal agencies whose mission is to protect public lands, wildlife, and air and water quality?

Was he draining the swamp and protecting the American heartland and abandoned communities with those moves? Was he supporting hunters and fishermen?

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bill wolfe's avatar

How did they feel about the Trump tax cuts to rich and corporations?

Did he have the backs of the working class and heartland America with those moves?

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Michael's avatar

If not for RFK jr’s naively one sided position on Israel/Palestine, I’d bet he would take > 70% of Trumps votes and > 50% of Biden votes. Laptop libs & corporatists will stick with Biden. Mean assholes will stick with Trump.

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Letsrock's avatar

What exactly were Trump's wars?

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jamenta's avatar

Trump vetoed attempts to stop the Yemen war being waged by US ally Saudi Arabia, which the US under Trump supported vigorously with arms and US military logistics - while Trump was president. The Syrian illegal occupation continued under Trump with continued bombing in Syria, and Trump also increased the number of bombs and drones strikes (world wide) over Obama's previous administration - which was considerable, since Obama dropped so many bombs US Air Force generals told him we were running out of bombs. The assassination of Iran's top military leader was an act of war - but the Iranians didn't take the bait.

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GenEarly's avatar

Yet Trump had to be Ousted in a Deep Statist sElection Coup and Obama/Clintoon could Continue the Bushie NWO Wars of Blood & Conquest.

ISIS sponsored by CiA's McShame, Brennan, with Obamy Approval.

Trump Ended ISIS, kept DoDfrom expanding Syria into another Iraq, and Wants to End War in Ukraine opposed by NeoCon rinoRats & Bolshevik democRats.

Iran is complicated like most countries, but it used to be "Diversified" which I thought was supposed to be "Good". Now it's just an Islamic Dictatorship .... as IS Every (?) Muslim Dominated Country??? Salimani was our "Terrorist" but an Islamic "Patriot" . Potato/Potatoe.

I'm guessing you probably wouldn't like being forced to wear a burka. Some Iranians are "Dying" to Be Free, just saying.

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Patrick Powers's avatar

"Trump vetoed attempts to stop the Yemen war being waged by US ally Saudi Arabia" That was quite something. Since Congress has the constitutional power to declare war it seems to me it should have the constitutional power to stop a war. (Can the president legally veto a declaration of war?)

I will say though that compared with the other 21st century presidents Trump seems like a bearded peacenik festooned with love beads. The way I see it his actions are random. That beats being consistently evil.

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jamenta's avatar

There is much more about Trump I can go on about, including imprisoning Assange and providing huge tax breaks for the obscenely wealthy in the US - which is another type of war against ordinary Americans - and poverty is the worst type of violence against human beings.

I do not see Trump as any kind of savior of the US. I do believe Jan 6th was an inside job by the deep state - that was far from any kind of so-called armed insurrection. And I even believe Trump may have encouraged the protest to some degree. But do I see Trump as any different than say Bill Clinton? Both flew on the Lolita Express multiple times with Jeffrey Epstein. Both are phony populists who once they gained power, did more harm to ordinary working Americans than most realize. Both played golf on the golf courses together as the wealth transfer continued unabated among the American populace.

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GenEarly's avatar

Obamy Economy Was Recession

Trump Economy was most Affluent for All

Biden Economy IS Recession heading into Depression

Enjoy!!!

btw, Trump kicked Epstein Out Mar a Lago CC, Clintoon got Frequent Flyer miles on Epstein's Lolita Express, even Hilarity flew to the Island for the Kiddie Deserts.

What's wrong with America First??? After the NWO Bushies, Clintoons, Obamaites deindustrialized and sent the midwest especially into the economic doldrums. democRats Lost their Blue Collar voters..... so much for their "worker paradise".

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jamenta's avatar

You know GenEarly - I used to think of Obama the way you think of Trump right now. I even voted for him the first time he ran. I also used to think of Bernie Sanders the way you think of Trump - until he obviously betrayed his supporters and everything he said he was for - since he dropped out of the presidential races.

So I understand your delusion about Trump. And there is not much I can do to convince you that Trump is not the "God Hero" you think he is.

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Wizard's avatar

Trumpstien was friends with Epstein after his sweetheart deal.

He knew.

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Wizard's avatar

Random does beat evil, but Trumps actions weren't random at all; his actions were fueled by special interest and his narcissism. 

The POS is still bragging about his killshots.

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Patrick Powers's avatar

"Random" just means unpredictable. The actions of the other 21st century presidents were orthodox and highly predictable.

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